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09/09/05, 07:59 PM
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I have nothing against hunting, the males in my life---2 sons and hubby do that...but I haven't had the experience of eating meat that I saw as an animal first. I only see it at the store or at a restaurant on my plate. I do not know if we are going that far as to eat only game meat. Our biggest thing will be vegetables and fruits (vines & trees). I have it all planned on paper down to the last detail. I am that excited!!! Well I hope to hear from you all re: land purchase, I think together we can have a heck of a garden!
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09/10/05, 01:17 AM
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wehes5, I think your best bet would be to seek out like-minded folks to help out with your adventure. Here's the caveat, though. Your focus should be on helping THEM out. You stated that is what you intend to do, but when I hear things like you wanting to sell off some of your land or that you want the right kind of folks with the right kind of talents to help out in your adventure, it comes across as this being for YOUR benefit. If you really want a community developed out of this, just give the land away. But, with the agreement that the land can not be sold (except by you, which you promise not to do) or given to someone else (without your permission). If your real intention is to sell the land off, then you should walk away from this adventure. Don't build your dream of selling this land to buy a bigger and better plot, at the expense of destroying someone else's dream of living in a "simple community". Please do not think that I'm assuming you're wanting to do that, I'm just attempting to add some consciousness to the discussion.  I honestly feel that you're being a bit judgemental here, and who can blame you? You don't want this community to fall apart, but sometimes communities are successfully built when you let those interested come to you, and let the chips fall where they may.
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09/10/05, 07:06 AM
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Well I have nothing to offer anyone except the land and my honesty and hard work...I feel free land to live on is a good exchange for teaching. Give it away, not to just anyone. I think that my hubby and I are going to venture this alone...I have enough confidence since I am rading everything I can about this that I KNOW I can do this alone now...Thanks everyone for all the advise....and good luck to everyone and there dreams....I will signing off now....
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09/10/05, 08:07 AM
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YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! I really can't understand the negativity. I enjoyed the conversations - Gosh, I hope I didn't sound negative, like you HAVE to eat venison or raise your own meat. Would you email me privately. I believe we may be starting this out at close to the same time. It MAY work out that we help each other. If you want, but no public forum. I just think we have a little more in common. psemons@charter.net.
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09/10/05, 08:10 AM
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I re-read it, not you being negative, but others - as if there was something wrong with your idea. Anyway if you want to talk, call me.
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09/11/05, 06:43 AM
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You are in the wrong place
You should do this thru your church. We have way too many Wackos in these forums, I hope the Lord give you wisdom, with this. The person answering to you request could belong to the FEDERAL RELOCATION PROGRAM, in other words you should go thru your pastor and other churches, Godspeed.
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09/11/05, 09:28 AM
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I heard it was up in owen...you should rent the land like oweners rent business property and let people build...and when they decide to, they can sell the homestead"business" and continue to rent the land. We have land in owen/withee areaand that is what we are planning to do..We have attorney who advises us. He said that the land will always be a rental unless we buy the buildings from the owner. Kind of like when a business rents a building to operate it's business in...
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09/11/05, 09:37 AM
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garden talk, I think you are to negative and don't give her a hard time. Her intentions sound good...where else can you use free land, are you going to offer yours???? I heard nothing encouraging or positive from you! I think this person just wants to share with others and learn from others. What I gather, they do not want to sell but share and let it be willed down to children and grandhildren to keep the old ways going. I think people should keep their negative comments to themselves and only post encouraging ones, after all, arenn't we all on the same team with the same goals of being self reliant.
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09/11/05, 09:42 AM
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thanks homesteader, you hit the nail on the head...I agree, garden talk, you are MEAN and negative. We have an attorney who is now advising us so no one gets screwed in this venture! If someone wants to use the land or rent the land and they do not want to do it anymore, they can sell their homestead, not the land though unless they bought it. Maybe another family would purchase the buildings and animals...this way they can walk away with no loss...any ideas or suggestions from POSITIVE people only!!!!
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09/11/05, 10:32 AM
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hey, it would be nice, for you to come to the land and just pay your rent of the land by teaching...canning, gardening and sharing...we could work up a legal agreement so you are never out any money/investment...I would never want anyone to be out money any investment. let me know. I truly believe in the barter system for such things...wish me luck on my first canning experience today. I washed everything in hot soapy water with some bleach to make sure it was totally clean and germ free
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09/11/05, 10:36 AM
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now you got it
now you got it wehes5...don't rent but barter...and let everyone know that their investment is theres. If they so choose to move from their investment, they can sell their investment to a nother homesteader or give you a chance to purchase it. Have them rent the land for either cash, labor, teaching or other means of bartering. If I wasn't already set up, I would do it...What a nice opportunity. If anyone thinks other, they are an moron! Good luck with that canning, it's not hard, just time consuming, it can be costly to start, but nothing like eating you own pickles...
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09/11/05, 10:38 AM
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Who destroyed your dream..if you read more, you will notice that is not her intentions. Please get YOUR facts straight before scolding others!
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09/11/05, 01:59 PM
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Who destroyed your dream..if you read more, you will notice that is not her intentions. Please get YOUR facts straight before scolding others!
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It would help if you replied with the quote button so we know for sure who you are referring too. Thanks, Randy
I think its a great idea, I hope you can find the right people to make it happen with.
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09/11/05, 02:02 PM
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the garden talker person
I believe he was talking about the garden talker person...don't rmember the name...read back a few post...thanks randi...
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It would help if you replied with the quote button so we know for sure who you are referring too. Thanks, Randy
I think its a great idea, I hope you can find the right people to make it happen with.
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09/11/05, 03:57 PM
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I wish you all the best in your endeavor.
Keep in mind when it comes to building in Wisconsin, technically, the entire state is zoned and building inspections are required.
In reality, however, its best to check with your local zoning entity. Some townships have stricter zoning standards than those that exist at the county level.
Generally speaking, minimum lot sizes range from 1.5 acres up to 5 acres for new subdivisions/parcels.
While it isn't impossible for the owner/builder to complete there own house......it is becoming more difficult. The use of rough cut lumber is prohibited, unless it has a grade stamp. Even log homes require the use of graded logs.
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09/11/05, 04:52 PM
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thanks...
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I wish you all the best in your endeavor.
Keep in mind when it comes to building in Wisconsin, technically, the entire state is zoned and building inspections are required.
In reality, however, its best to check with your local zoning entity. Some townships have stricter zoning standards than those that exist at the county level.
Generally speaking, minimum lot sizes range from 1.5 acres up to 5 acres for new subdivisions/parcels.
While it isn't impossible for the owner/builder to complete there own house......it is becoming more difficult. The use of rough cut lumber is prohibited, unless it has a grade stamp. Even log homes require the use of graded logs.
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thanks...I didn't know that. I am glad you let me know. thanks so myuch
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09/15/05, 03:34 PM
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well, sorry my hubby made one too. seems that cause we hardly see each other due to work schedules, things get alittle off. However, since he is going to a different shift, things should be better. Its always more polite to ask a person directly what is up than talk like they aren;'t even around. I didn't know that people weren't allowed to make mistakes or cross paths...My apologies!
I know that most people NEVER have communications problems...right?!
And to get miffed so easily over the posts of the others is just a little strange and exagerated.
I think I would prefer to not live in very close proximity with a person with such extemes of being extremely excited in their planning----------and then being so put off by the comments made by others.
Reminds me of the moodiness of my teenagers.[/QUOTE]
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09/15/05, 03:39 PM
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I will be sure that everyone in my household uses the same name as not to confuse anyone on this forum, it seems easy to do. And people you mistake as being friendly who would be kind enough to say hey what is up is not friendly...
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09/15/05, 03:45 PM
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tall pines
Sorry, I was not direct to you...it turns out wishomesteader is my hubby! Don't you think that your comments should of been directed to me so I may ask him or you could of asked him personally. I think it is funny that you jumped to conclusions without knowing the facts...how typical! What he chooses to do on his own time really is none of your business. thanks for bringing it to my attention so I can let him know not to use it so you don't think that I have 2 personalities like your family has.Sounds like a personal problem...they have help for that!
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09/15/05, 04:04 PM
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so---it seems 'wisconsinhomesteader' and 'wehes5' are one and the same person----having a conversation with herself------
Seems she got her names and responses mixed up there ------------
And to get miffed so easily over the posts of the others is just a little strange and exagerated.
I think I would prefer to not live in very close proximity with a person with such extemes of being extremely excited in their planning----------and then being so put off by the comments made by others.
Reminds me of the moodiness of my teenagers.
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sounds like a personal problem for you and your family, they have help for that!!! Found out wihtout your politeness that it is my hubby...maybe you should of asked before jumping to the WRONG conclusion!!
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