Make your lists here/things to take with you to the woods.

I have been on many Camp outs , 5 1/2 months, 6 months, Homless for
over a year , 9 day survival Walkabout surviving off the land , So you might say i have had some
good Expierances !

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lol how did my thread turn into a anti gun thread lmao

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one of my questions from earlyer up still hasnt been answered yet on the subject of.... why you whould bring guns that are loud if you are building shelter's that are cammo'd

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Are wanting to carry all the stuff in one pack or are you going to find a site and then start a cache there?

Interesting intellectual exercise. I tend to agree that we are much more social and good than we give ourselves credit for and that if the SHTF, we would still work together.

BTW, as I recall, Rudolph had a family member or friend that was helping him out with supplies and he was also coming into towns to pick garbage. So, for MANY reasons, he might not be a good example for what you're looking for!

the list i have made in my head allow's for quite a heavy pack as it includes
block n tackle
axe
rip saw
bow saw
shouvel

just for building my structure.
then there is the living provisions such as
bow
fishing gear
kitchen ware
and assorted odds n ends.
so to do things right i think a cache whould be the most likewise system
but... by all means i could walk in with a lot less and live comfortably after some time and aquiring crafted things out in the bush.

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Yes.

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I can agree with different tools for different jobs. But that doesn't change the fact that if I were walking through the woods & came across a guy in a camo tent with six guns hanging on him, I'd become unfriendly. I wouldn't want to interact with that person at all.

I've heard those jokes, too. But I have trouble believing that most bears won't be stopped by a double blast to the head. I'd have to see otherwise to believe it.

What is a SHTF?

I find DragonLady's comments on guns very typical of the uneducated in this country, you are a Democrat DragonLady?

A double blast to the head from a shotgun would do nothing but p*** the bear off...especially if we are talking Grizzly or Kodiak. Most bear experts will tell you that the head is the last place you want to aim as they have a very thick skull. shotguns are designed to spread a blast out into a wide pattern. Great if you are a bad aim, bad if you want to kill anything larger than a mountain cat or small deer. A shotgun wouldn't even down a moose.
You need a rifle and the right kind of ammo for large game. A pistol is best for protection from snakes (better control if the snake happens to be right under you which is usually the case when you actually stumble across one)...so yes a person may indeed want to have several different guns with them.

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still no one is answering my question about loud guns and cammod shelters hehe

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I'm assuming you want cammod shelter to hide from the Gov.or someone and not just for hunting reasons. I would guess that if you were actually hiding from an entity other than wildlife you would want something more quiet. However, in the same turn, you would have to strike any ideas of a fire/woodstove as smoke can be seen and if not seen most assuredly smelled. radios would be out of the question because they can make noise, or can be used to determine a persons location. Livestock, again out of the question...they make noise, they smell differently than most wildlife, and rarely are able to be kept in camoflage. Traps, out of the question...traps have to be set by a person, the perfect tip off that someone is in the area. they'll eventually find tracks and find you.
The fact is, if someone truly wants to find you, they will. If you want to hide, then you need to appear as insignificant as possible so that no one wants to find you in the first place.
As far as hunting goes...most animals don't figure out that a chair isn't supposed to be hanging in a tree, so why worry about how loud your gun is.

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You know nothing about me. In fact, you know less than nothing. I grew up around guns -owned my own before I started kindergarten. And have met more self-styled "Rambos" than I could tally with a cray computer.

And most start right outta the box with the attitude that other people are unfriendly, out to get them and armed too.

I've never shot a bear, but I just have trouble believing a bear wouldn't be mortally wounded. Although...I don't know about "stopping power". I can see that a bear just might be able to continue to fight for some time after a blast.

What is it they say about pedantry being the last refuge of the witless?


Well then you would probably run away screaming from most deer camps I've been in. There's guns in them thar green tents! Oh the horror!



Why am I not surprised. A double blast to the head. um. ok. whatever. Good luck with that.

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Knowledge.

With knowledge, you need nothing more. I've a friend that fairly routinely gets frustrated with people and society. He strips down naked and disapears into the woods for several months to a few years. It can be done with knowledge. I'm not match for him, but I sure don't need some of the things that are being listed here.

I appreciate the fact that some understand my reasoning for my choices for what I would take to the woods.

I will comment on some of the previous posts. First, I believe in redundancy when it comes to gear and having alternates that can fill in if another piece of equipment or supplies are gone or damaged beyond repair is one part of being prepared. Second, were I to have a significant other I would take her to the woods with me if she wished to come, but I'm not forcing someone.

Third, wanting to have a low-key habitation doesn't mean that one shouldn't have equipment that otherwise might indicate that someone is in the area. I think it better to have a place where I can sleep and rest without as much concern that I might be found by strangers when unaware in this unstructured, open ended senario.

As for worries about people carrying more than one weapon, I guess some of you haven't been to gunshows, gun shops or even to a gunsmith's business, let alone some of the deer camps around here. Tools are tools, and I presume that you would be as afraid of me as you would my friend the knifesmith who often carries several of his works on his person at times.

Regarding a shooting bears, they are somewhat like wild boar/feral hogs. You want to have something to punch through their tough bone structure to put them down. Even with a big bore rifle or 12 gauge slug it isn't advisable to shoot for the head unless that is the last ditch effort due to the thickness of the cranial bone. At close range your best bet is to aim for the shoulder or chest with a good solid bullet or slug, if a standing bear, aim for the chest. If at basically hand to hand combat distance, shove the muzzle of the gun into the chest of the bear, or if armed with a handgun, the chest or aim for the mouth and fire until the gun is empty. A friend of mine was forced to shoot to live against a bear in an Alaskan fishing camp. He emptied his .44 Magnum into the bear's chest and lived to tell about it. He wasn't looking for trouble, but it found him.

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good posts i am liking the story's so those that are ranting stop ranting and tell story's

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woopse i fell asleep and the thread moved back a page! sorry heh

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Two additional things I'd recommend:
1. A title to the land you're living on, and
2. A two-stroke, gasoline-powered blender to make your margaritas in (ie, Tail-gator Blender)

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