Why Would Anyone Live In...

Anywhere Florida to HOT and way to crowded.


Kenneth in NC

Truly, I know I am adaptable and could find something to like everywhere. I prefer quiet, but I often think that when we retire/get older we might move to an area that has public transportation, ability to live without a car, easy shopping within walking distance. So that might mean city living of some kind. Meanwhile, I don't mind visiting cities: Pittsburgh and DC are two I like alot.

That said, there are places I don't like. Florida is one of them: heat, bugs, traffic, and mostly the storm systems. I prefer being away from hurricanes.

I agree; don't really like Charleston WV.

My brother lives in Cleveland and previously in NYC. So I have spent time in both places. I prefer Cleveland. More sky and easier to drive around. He just bought a house in the Polish community area near the community center. He has a big network of friends from all over the world and you just don't get that diversity in small towns. One weekend visit and we hit a Puerto Rican festival, a Polish street fair, a community block party at the firehall and met the Chinese owners of a small terrific restaurant. Thats cool.

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I feel the same way. I grew up in a big city and I don't like anywhere where you sit at your kitchen table in the morning and look out your window right into a neighbors kitchen window. Yuck. But I have friends that say they counld never live where I am in the boonies. I prefer looking at nature's beauty every morning.

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People always look at me sideways when I say this, but San Diego. I lived there for a year and was very unimpressed. Sure the weather is nice, but the weather attracts people who only care about... the weather! People were fake nice, the city was one big suburb, and the politics were conservative.

During my stay I always wound up spending more time in Julian, in the mountains, than I did in SD itself. That told me a lot.

I don't understand you guys but boy, you and my husband would agree about the trip to the yard.
When we finally moved back to the country away from everyone, after living in town, he said that is one of his great pleasures of life - lol

There's a fairly large coastal town in northern Peru, fairly close to the border with Ecuador. They processed anchovies there and you could choke on the stench from 20 klicks away. There was a large neighboring town with an airport. Surrounding it were miles of plywood and tin shacks, garbage everywhere, dead dogs and sewage running everywhere.

The ceviche was good but I would'nt want to live there.

Maybe things have gotten better.

Lima was O.K. but the indians woudl defecate on the sidewalks and stupid gringo would be walking along and go surfing a few feet on these brown "bananas."

Not to say the county was bad though.

I lived in Las Vegas,NV for 15 years and don't know how I did it. Crime is horrible, schools don't teach much except the spanish language (No offense to hispanics, but if my child is going to an American school I want her taught in the english language). Billboards are covered with naked women. Drivers are the rudest, most dangerous I've yet to see. Lots of illegals. Lots of drugs. Methlabs are routinely found in major hotel rooms. They have no sense of family there...if you work in Vegas, you'll be working on every major holiday there is...if you want to spend time w/ family you have to practically be unemployed. Smog is horrible. Heat can be unbearable (all the buildings and concrete litterally causes ground temps to be as much as 20 to 40 degrees higher than outside the city). It's loud, loud, loud.
I could go on forever. the fact is I hated Vegas so much that the place actually depressed me. In fact it was a factor in our decision to move. The only thing Vegas has going for it is the NFR and PBR World Championships.

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Now I have been to almost every place in the US, and some of Canada, and I would say I could make a go of it ina ny place. I love NYC, and adore Chicago. Detroit I have been to, got run into (on puropse) by a guy who then tried to get a bunch of money from me. I told him I am not afraid of cops or him and lets see who wins. TG I won. It was only because I have been around, and not afraid that I could do this. 6 feet helps, too.
I survived ATL, I would go back to live in 5 Points again. Norfolk was the worst, but thats because no one has any money and are all getting yelled at by their CO. The stick under my seat and my big mouth survived that one.
Now I live in Maine, and I have finally gotten used to the stuck up people, TG I have nice neighbors.
I think everyplace has it's detractors. I also think that you can survive anywhere you have to. Most people who live in a decrepit city have to. They know no better.

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NYC and Atlanta. Both make Chicago look like Martha Stewart's house.

I found NYC to be a filthy, culture-less hole in the earth. You can't walk around without an inch of diesel soot coating you by the end of the day, or without 100 people trying to sell you bootleg DVD's.

Atlanta is equally filthy, with worse roads and even ruder people!

Detroit is definatly on my list of places .... then again any big city is. Heck, even my lil town is "too big" for me, and we haven't even got a traffic light!

Kaza

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After picking on the cities I will add a "country" place I wouldn't want to live (no offense if you live there...) New Hampshire (the southern half) I hate the hamptons (having just got back from that area) and the eastern half of Mass...
including but not limited to Boston.

Speaking of Boston, who taught you guys to drive, what's with driving in the breakdown lane?

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Maybe its been awhile since you've been here. I live in the downtown area by pioneer park, this area is the Barrio i kid you not. The crime rate is very high, at least a couple of murders a week. We have one of the highest auto theft rates in the nation. If we could afford it we would move to east mesa where they have nice neighbourhoods but 250K-750K is out of our range. We'll be leaving in a year or two, After i have graduated and we can save some money.

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I've lived in many different cities and small towns, including about 4 years total overseas. If you enjoy what you are doing and who you are with, you'll be happy regardless of where you live.

Zeal, In Boston, the breakdown lane is really the express lane. If you doubt this, drive to the Cape on a Saturday morning south on 93/3. When I lived in Cambridge, I'd be walking down the street and people would ask how to get to a certain business or street address. It was funny to tell them they were only a few hundred yards away, but would have about 15-20 minutes of circuitous driving to get there.

As for NYC, I still commute in to work there, and it is so much better (cleaner, safer, friendlier) than 30 years ago, there just isn't any comparison. Yes, it's crowded and congested, but there is so much more to see than the normal touristy attractions. The West Village feels like you are in a completely different country. For foodies, Chelsea Market and the Union Sq. Farmer's Market are unbelievable. You can go up to Inwood and see native hardwood forests, look across at the Palisades and have a nice picnic. Take the Train up to Wave Hill and walk through the gardens with tremendous views of the Hudson. The Brooklyn Botanical Garden has one of the most impressive rose gardens I've ever seen. Earlier this summer, we did the Governor's Island tour with our two grown children. You stand in the forests on the island a few hundred yards from lower Manhattan and can not see a single building. If I have to go in on a Saturday to work, my wife will sometimes take a later train and meet me for brunch at a cute little Scandinavian restaurant a couple blocks from my work. Outdoor tables on a cobblestone street, really feels like another world. If you can't find culture in Manhattan, you sure aren't looking.

When we lived in Hawi, HI, right after we were married, we had a little shack about 12 x 12. Best time we ever had.

I've been in cities 30,000 - 50,000 with far worse crime problems than Manhattan.

In my time and travels, I've met very few people who weren't proud of their home towns.

Any big city--but I hated NYC, and Burlington, VT, is awful IMO! Oh yeah, the city I'm stuck in right now isn't very nice either... Yuck, yuck, yuck! I hate cities!

Anywhere in Southern California. (It really is just one huge city linked by thousands of tracts of cookie cutter homes.) Choking smog, horrible heat, drugs, gangs, guns everywhere, thousands of cars packed on a freeway going nowhere twice a day everyday. Security bars and screens on all the doors and windows, never go out after dark, park your car inside or you lose it. Did it for 18 years and don't know how I survived.

(But the Mexican food is great and that I do miss!)

I was bred and buttered in Chicago, and I cannot stand the place. When I was younger, I did love the architecture (Sullivan, Wright, et al), and the neighborhoods (each like its own little country, like one section of Ashland Ave where EVERYTHING is Polish, right down to the signs in the stores). The food can't be beat, either.

BUT now it's just ugly. And dirty. And noisy. Heck, even the 'burbs are noisy! ('Specially since King Richie changed the O'Hare flight paths to go over the suburbs and away from The Lake.) And Chicago just seems to have this monopoly on corruption. The worst part of that is how people just accept it as "business as usual" or (worse yet) they act like it's somehow cool.

NYC is another place where you'd have to pay me to stay. And LA -- ugh. Oh, and Gary, IN. <shudder>

Concrete in general just seems to suck the soul out of a person...

Pony!

I actually like cities - lived in NYC and Boston, the former mostly as a kid, and it was a great place to be a kid in many ways (although parents now don't let their kids go exploring the way I did). I don't want to live in a city anymore but I can see their virtues. I miss things about them - the proximity to arts and music, the ethnic diversity, the cool graffiti art.

Any suburb, however, is beyond me. Ugly, artificial environments, overpriced housing, the same pollution as the cities with less excuse, ick. Suburban New Jersey, where DH is from, is my personal vision of hell.

I admit, I also don't understand why anyone would live in California - anywhere. It isn't that there's anything wrong with California per se (ok, there are things wrong with LA) - but *everyone* else either already lives there or wants to live there as far as I can tell. IMHO, that's not a big plus.

Sharon

The problem is that only lunatic tourists don't know better than to do this. Don't blame that on the people who live in Boston - mostly, they don't go to the Cape in peak season, and if they do, they know better than to go on Saturday am.

Same thing with people foolish enough to be driving around Cambridge. That's what feet and the subway are for - gets you places much quicker and better.

Frankly, having grown up in areas with good public transportation, what I miss most about cities is not having to own a car. I didn't learn to drive until I was 28 - didn't need to. I could travel around entire states without one.

Sharon

LA and Riverside Counties, CA. I've lived in and around LA, and I swear if I never go back I'll be better for it. And people can say what they want about the Orange and San Diego suburbs, but they're safe, educated, lovely areas with (mostly) lovely and hard-working people.

I visited NYC once--hid in my hotel for most of it.

I could tell you some really good bribe stories from an associate who attempted to run a business there. Everyone and I mean everyone had their hand out. Nothing got done without multiple palm greasings. I'm told the official seal of Chicago actually shows a handshake with a envelope full of unmarked currency being passed. Probably the most corrupt city in America aside from possibly New Orleans.(as if they don't have enough problems at the moment)

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