Squatters

I haven't personally had squatter problems. But back when my In Laws bought this place Originally 36 acres with a house and barn. They had squatters here. They kept their cow in a n upstairs bedroom so it couldn't be seen by planes. We are on a hill off the road. This was in 1960. It took them 2 years to get the squatters out and to get the house livable again. The upstairs bedroom where the cow was kept was packed down with manure.

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Not trying to start something or be mean but, this is not your property. You should leave it alone. Look at from the squatter’s point of view. They have nothing to loose. You have everything to loose. Anything you might do to them might come back two fold. Don’t think that when you’re in court on a “civil” matter with the squatter’s as the plaintiff and you the defendant that the less than helpful owner is going to suddenly grow a set.
Now, if it was your property, I’d do anything and I mean anything to remove them. Including SSS.

We had a trail going through the woods in the back of our property which abuts a cemetary. We constantly had kids cutting through. I know its not the same as squatters. But I would call the police and they said they really couldn't do anything unless they refused to leave. I asked them not to tresspass again, and they would say"sorry" and just continue. The last time it happened, I confronted them again, and they said "sorry" and then contineued to cut through. I made them turn around and go back the way they came from. One kid complained to me that the walk was too long. I told him that the other way wouldn't be shorter, but longer because I'd make them walk with the barrel of a shotgun up their butt. Never had a problem again.

I actually have to agree with thebeav, that although it may be annoying to have these squatters. No one may care if the owner themselves isn't complaining. Maybe he's not because your doing the work for him. What if you kept calling him about it?

Raise skunks and set them free over there (or roaches, fire ants, etc)
Practice target shooting at their windows with rocks and a slingshot.
Use the area for paintball meets every weekend.
Record some red-neck wolf whistles and play that back everytime his "lady" is outdoors.
Have the nearest aviation school practice dive-bombing them.
Clip every news article about dangerous homeless people (fires, murders, rapes, etc.) and send a copy to the mayor, newspaper and land owner.

Too bad you couldn't get the owner's permission to tow the trailer when its empty and put it on the street, then set up a Farmstand or something in the open space.

Get a really nasty dog and have it crap ( can I say that word Chuck?) all over the lot especially in front of the trailer door.

Actually, I'd rather do the first one.

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The first thing I thought of when I read the title to this thread was people squatting to eventually file a claim for ownership of the land. Obviously that takes a long time and hopefully the situation will be resolved before then, but it's a concern that anyone with "unwanted guests" may want to consider.

I didn't see anyone else mention this so I wanted to bring it up, but I got interrupted a couple times while reading the thread...my apologies if I'm parroting someone else.

Kayleigh

Here ya go
Most of the trespass crimes are misdemeanors. It is unlawful in California to:


Cut down, take, or destroy a person's timber

Take a person's soil

Enter upon another's land where oysters or other shellfish are growing or take the oysters or shellfish

Tear down a fence, gate, or sign, including a highway sign or notice

Wilfully dig up, injure, or flood a public or private highway, road, or bridge

Build a fire on another person's land

Enter a person's land to injure the property

Enter a person's land for any purpose if the land is enclosed or signs are posted forbidding trespass

Drive on another's land without consent

Refuse to leave a public building, a hotel or motel, or private land

Ski in a closed area
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...nia&StateAb=CA
So trepass is a criminal act, and if the police do not help you they are aiding and abetting the commision of a felony and you can sue their butts off!

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Get notice to the health department that a trailer that is dumping sewage openly upon the ground. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't but it should still be reported that they don't have an approved sewage septic system. Suggest that the people are very unfriendly and they should have some sort of police escort when they go to investigate.

Perhaps report to the fire department that they are having open campfires.

I would really hate to bother such departments if there isn't a violation, but the land owner does need to do something.

To the sheriff---found on my property an abandoned trailer. Sheriff, please remove it and hold for claim. I'll even tow it to headquarters if you provide an escort to see that I do it properly.

Where is a reporter when the sheriff isn't enforcing the law? Can the county commissioners not see to it that the sheriff does the job he has sworn to do?

Keep working on the land owner and maybe he will come around to getting something done.

Yep,we have it all,from the very best in the world to the very worst.And a huge economy to boot.We are huge innovators,space exploration(JPL),alternate energy,pollution control(enviornmental protection),we are WORLD class.So yes,we Californians are sick and tired of the bashing.Gets old real fast.

Dave,we spent 2 years exploring here.Ive lived here my life pretty much,and within 100 miles of home saw things I never knew existed.I could spend another 20 years just traveling Ca,and still not see it all.

BooBoo

Mice in cages? Why would they have mice in cages? Struck me as pretty odd unless they raise snakes or something.

Around here, people take their property lines pretty seriously. In fact in the county next to ours, two farmers had a disagreement. One had just bought his land and the other was renting the use of that land from the previous landowner. The new owner asked him to move his cattle off his new land because HE needed it. The renter was being unreasonable and uncooperative. It ended up with one of them being shot and killed.

Anyway, if it were MY land someone was trespassing on and living on, it would have lasted about 24 hours at the most, once I knew they were there. I'd have had a couple 'friends' come out and we'd go visit them and ask them what they thought they were doing by trespassing. If it was someone really desperate and in need, I might consider letting them stay as long as they helped with chores, etc... might even work out to my advantage. But if it were someone with a cocky attitude planning to just squat here and take advantage... not only would they be forcibly removed at gunpoint (several I might add), their trailer would be towed out (by us) and taken to the side of the nearest highway.

LOL on "match".

I to am in so cali.If you want them off call the fire departemnt when they have that open fire.You say mice in cages call the humane society and complain of a amonia from urine smell.I aLso liked the raW sewage to the health department.THere is also a local codes about trash pick up and how you must have it I think this fits into the health codes



And to the rest In cali. You cant just go firing any firearms at or near the general direction of someone

As a few others have said, the problem I see is that this is not yourproperty.

I don't think you will get very far, as you are in effect being a squatter of sorts yourself.

You are trying to control what goes on at your neighbor's place.

That's not really for you to say, is it? I don't see any type of law that will give you the time of day on this.

I don't mean to be mean about it, and I can understand that you have some issues with a bad type of folk hanging around near you. I'd be torq'ed off about it too. And wishing to change the situation. And I don't agree with California law on this, nor do I understand the land-owner's lack of care on this serious matter.

But at the end of the day, it's none of your business - at least to any type of law.

As I see it, from the explination of what is what so far. I'm probably not helping you any, probably saying the same thing as the captain said to you. Sorry. Given the facts as they are in this thread, you really don't have much to stand on here?

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have you met them and talked with them? Maybe they don't want to be living the way they are any more then you like the situation. Maybe they have no money and don't know how to get help with some housing. Perhappes you could better use your time calling people who could help them find a better place to live. Don't know where they are coming from. Maybe they are just taking advantage of your neighbores land with no reguard to others. But frist I would talk to them to find out what is really going on.

One thing to consider; since the Legal owner of the property isn't concerned-if you make enough complaints he may just flat out rent to them to stop the complaining! lol Or worse;he may sell out to someone similar or worse than those folks!
From his point of view that would end any complaints from you and give them a legal right to be there.

Sometimes complaining is fine-If it's your place but when you start trying to control what's happening in the area & on land that's not legally yours to control; things can get pretty interesting...

You have to look at it realistically-the cops aren't concerned, the rightful owner isn't concerned and the tenant/squatters aren't concerned-now from a legal standpoint who looks like the rabble rouser???

I'm not pointing fingers but if no one else is put off by this, do you really think a judge/govt agency would find in your favor if you got them involved?

Legally, without the owners input, I can't see any legal rights you have regarding someone elses property.
IF something is being done there that directly affects your place-then work on getting that resolved since you have the legal right to control whats within your property boundaries.
Otherwise; plant some high bushes and be thankful you have a buffer between you and the neighbor.

JMO

Im SURE code doesnt allow what they are doing here. And I dont want foks like that living next door to me,bad news people who are squatting on what they know is private property.Obviously they have no respect for others' property.
I understand Motivated's concern.We had the same happen in our neighborhood,we are down the road from Jodi.They were pure trash,lowlifes and trashed the place totally.
Fortunately,the owner got them evicted,after they destroyed his property.
Jodi has a huge reason to be concerned,our neighborhood is NOT a homeless center for criminals,thank you very much!

BooBoo

Another thing,once folks like this find holes in the law,they exploit it completely,and thats what is happening here.

When I lived in Temecula,we had meth cookers down they way from us.Their mobile went up in flames,burned some funky color that the authorities told us was from the chemicals.The local paper took on their cause,setting up an acct for these poor unfortunate people who lost everything.Red cross put em up in a home.

The newspaper article interviewing them made me want to barf,those poor people,etc.,even had a drive for toys because they lost all their christmas presents.Yeah,right!

They should have been in prison!

Yes,you have a right to be concerned with what is going on in your neighborhood.

BooBoo

BooBoo, you have GOT to be kidding me! Oh my gosh, I'd have blown a gasket, LOL.

Picture this. We just bought a beautiful country home just outside of the city; one somewhat close neighbor, a great couple who loved keeping their place beautiful. It was peaceful and serene. We thought we had our dreamhome. Then someone bought the 10 acres (a long, narrow strip from the road back) on the other side of our property. They built their home closer to ours than to the center of the property, and their plans were to built 3 more homes behind theirs for their sons. (Sigh - so much for peaceful country living.) Nevertheless, we wanted to be good neighbors and have a good rapport with all our neighbors... so we worked at that.

Then... the next thing we know... they've allowed a film company to come out and film a movie on their property (knights, armour, horses, fighting, etc.). They were promised something like 2 ot 3% of the profits if the film was a success. For one entire summer, we had approximately 300 people out there every weekend. Cars parked up and down the road, people sitting on or leaning against our fence, checking out everything we did. Our peaceful seclusion was gone. I felt trapped in my own home because I felt like I was on display whenever I went outside. It was horrible and it made me infuriated at the neighbor responsible, so I just avoided them so I wouldn't blow up at them.

Late that fall, we found this place. I figured a house built in the middle of 40 acres, surrounded by forrest... we just wouldn't have that kind of trouble again, LOL. I highly recommend building in the middle of your property... a minimum of 5 acres; much more if you can afford it.

Yes, we've had trouble with squatters for over 500 years now. In case many of you don't get that, I'll explain. If you're not a native American, then you really don't have anything to complain about. This 'squatter' isn't doing anything different than your ancestors did at some point. Except in this case, he doesn't have the army slaughter the original landowner for him, he at least has the cajones to move onto the property and take the heat himself. Obviously the landowner isn't using the land, so someone else is.

Let the flaming begin!

This goes on in the city too. Our DS had this GF and needed us to drive him to see her. They lived in a rundown dilapilated old house in the middle of the city. We knew the house was in really bad shape but not that it had been condemned and they had moved in anyways. Kept chickens and rabbits in one of the rooms so no one would see them because they weren't supposed to have them there at all. Paid no rent because it was condemned and squatted there for over a year before they finally burned it down because they thought that everyone would take up a collection and give them lots of things including a better house. That didn't happen, everyone saw thru what was going on there. All they got was $75 from the red cross for clothing and a used tv set. Until the very end we didn't know they were squatting but that came out in the papers after the fire. The house was totally destroyed and there is now an empty lot where it stood.

My suggestion to you would be for you to rent the place from your neighbor for 1 week or month. Now you can do something with that property with the owner's permission of course. Go to one of the bigger farms and have them deliver a big, wet load of manure either cow or chicken should do the trick here. Have it dumped right near where they are camped out and tell them that this is just the beginning! There is much more coming and being dumped there in the next few days--in fact the whole property will be covered in the stuff as it will be planted in ____ next growing season. Fertilizer, ya know? If you have to have another load brought in just to make your point, so be it. At least you will get rid of these squatters. To get rid of the manure after they are gone you can always offer it free to all takers and it will disappear and help out your neighbors with their gardens.

That is a pretty cool idea,I like it!

BooBoo