14-18 % of what?????

With respect, Papaw, I tried to find the source of the quote and came up with a couple of citations for Thomas Aquinas, one for Martin Luther, one for Peter Meiderlin in the 1600s and one for John Wesley in the 1700s. It might be too vague to track down. The German term for it is "Friedensspruch" or "peace speech" (or so I was told ...) One source said it's part of a longer poem which Meiderlin wrote as an anagram of his name in Latin.

Anyway, it IS a good reminder.

Ann

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Yup. I personally know two families that had to flee their towns after the agrigiants turned them into third world slums. At one time meatpacking jobs while hard work were good paying. They paid well enough that a man could raise his family pretty well. I know many that did so. Once the meat packers started recruiting foreigners and illegals those jobs disappeared. Not to mention what happened to once nice small Midwestern towns. If I had my way the executives, politicians and others responsible for the situation would be stretching hemp.

I try to buy meat locally or I raise it myself. I know where my meat came from. It came from Robert's farm or from one of the Kelly boys. I know the guy who did the processing too. Sorry but but I don't want some illegal from Guatemala with rudimentary or non-existent personal hygiene handling my meat products or my food in general. He could be more contagious than that monkey from outbreak for all anyone knows. Ever wonder why we have all these problems with salmonella and all other manner of pathogens in the food supply now?

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We've been buying our beef and pork from a local farmer and the difference is amazing. I don't buy from Wally World, so I imagine the step up from WW is even greater. When we have visitors we like to treat them to a steak or pork roast and they are taken aback by the difference. We don't pay any more, pound for pound, overall then they do buying who knows what from the chain stores.

The IGA store I shop at carries minimally processed poultry, which is what I buy. At least until I grow up another batch of tasty chickens this year.

You know, this meat buying discussion reminds me of buying dog food. You can pay more and get a good quality food for your dog (or cat), or pay less and get dog food that is packed with filler, and feed your dog more so you aren't saving any money in the long run. It sure pays to read the label.

Apologies if anyone commented this, but they are phosphates (sodium ,water, etc.). I know Sanderson Farm chicken is big on advertising "no phosphates", for what it is worth.

Courtney

I heard about the automated chicken gutting fingers puncturing the intestines and getting fecal matter shoved through the meat.DW brought home chicken from Wallmart and I realized the wings had been broken and blood mixed in the pieces!Lost my appetite for WM meat :no:
We try to raise all our meat now.
Chas

After I posted on the Poultry Board my thread "Broilers, the economics of it?" we've only been buying Sanderson Farms chicken from the local Winn Dixie stores. We're soon to order our own broilers.

I bought a corned beef roast to cook for St. Patricks Day from that nasty walliestore. I kept having to skim off this nasty grey booger that formed on top. It had the most disgusting taste. I only had one or two bites. My wife kept saying it tasted fine. I took it away from her and the boys thinking I had cooked it wrong. The entire meal was a disaster.

Not long after that, I bought some really good looking ribeyes from that same nasty walliestore. It was payday, I had had a bad day at work and I had not had lunch. I was hungry and upset and I wanted a good meal. A little salt, a little black pepper, a little garlic powder...some baked potatoes in the oven, some steamed brocolli. I threw the steaks into a hot iron skillet like I've done many times before with great success. That nasty grey booger jumped out of the meat, danced around the skillet for a while before burning to the pan and the whole house filled with the same disgusting smell that came out of that corned beef roast.

I, too, asked what that "solution" was. Noone at that nasty walliestore knew. I researched it myself. Why pay for water, fecal wastes, some unknown amount of salt and a bunch of "natural flavorings?"

Sanderson's Farms has a radio commercial I hear about a million times a day at work. It's a lady's voice pretending to be Mother Nature. It's pretty funny. Food world has their own version of "un-brined" chicken that we buy also.

Never buy meat from Wal-mart and never buy meat packed by Tyson. A big, nasty grey booger will jump out at you.

(a side note, letting you all know how much of a geek I am....The un-Godly amounts of salt added to this "solution" is to upset the molecular structure of the meat cells allowing all of this water and "natural flavorings" to pass into the very structure of the meat. It's the natural process known as osmosis, the process by which substances (the water and "natural flavorings") pass through a semi-permeable membrane (the cell walls of the meat) from a solution of higher concentration to a solution of lesser concentration.)

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I buy a brand of chicken called Murray's Chicken. It is all natural and free range from a farm in PA . I will not buy anything else now, except King's store brand in a pinch it is also filler free, but does not have the taste that Murray's has. Just looking at the meat in the freezer you can see the difference, Murray's is clean and white in color. Before I found Murray's I had almost stopped buying chicken, it turned my stomach to prepare waht was in the package. Now we are eating it a couple of times a week.

Murray's has a website it is www.murrayschicken.com

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