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12/04/12, 11:25 AM
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When my husband went to check the cattle tonight, he found that an electric fence had been ran on our side of the property.
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On your side of your fence? Or on your side of HIS property? There is a difference.
If on your side of your fence, I would be unhappy. If on his side of the fence I would be more careful.
He may have sold the cattle he had, but do you know if he intends purchasing other livestock? Goats may be delightful, but they can be very hard on fences. Ditto sheep.
I would find out his motivation before getting too angry. Or wait for his future goats and sheep to kill your fence. Your choice.
Mary
ETA: I didn't realize that this thread was old till I read a few more posts. I never look at the thread dates - maybe I should!!
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12/04/12, 11:30 AM
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Doesnt make it right.
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Why not? A trail open to the public for over 25 years would very likley be a public right .
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12/04/12, 12:02 PM
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I am glad this thread has been bumped up because eventually we will be dealing with new neighbors at some point in time. We just finished 2800 ft of farm fence which is actually 1 or 2 inch back off the property line in some places and other places at least a foot because of rock. DH inherited 14 acres of 74 and his siblings have the rest which they plan on selling their share of the remaining acres. It is good to see other's responses. We dont consider our fence a common fence especially since it is not directly on the property line. I really don't want anyone tieing into it because it is very hard to get someone to pay up when damage is done. I know because we have repaired or replaced existing fence on the 74 acres where others livestock has tore it down. Also there is a gravel road right beside it that FIL did on the property long before he died, so if someone were to tie into it they would also have to put in a gate or they would loose access to the back of the property. So hopefully whomever buys the place will put thier fences up on their side of the gravel road and neither of us will have a problem with livestock.
I am not the type of person who takes kindly to people helping themselves to anything that is ours...I don't mind sharing something but don't take without asking and depending on what it is we might discuss it. It is called common courtesy which this country is sorely lacking now days.
The survey pins and wooden stakes with flags clearly show where the property/boundary lines are so there is no mistaken whose is whose at our place. Even when we were at an existing fence of one of our neighbors on the other side.. when we put up ours we did NOT tie into theirs, we put our own posts/wire in on our side.
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12/04/12, 12:55 PM
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Why not? A trail open to the public for over 25 years would very likley be a public right .
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I took it as the public using it for 25 years, not open to them......
The public might steal it sure, but that is in the eyes of certain laws, not what is 'right'.
Thought this thread started looking familar when I was reading it yesterday, came to find I even had replied to it what back when!
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12/04/12, 02:16 PM
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I find the discussion of value. Maybe there should have just been a new thread.
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12/04/12, 03:48 PM
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Why not? A trail open to the public for over 25 years would very likley be a public right .
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"Being used" isn't the same as "being open"
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12/04/12, 07:16 PM
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He is banned, for good reason lol
So many old names on this thread, whatever happened to Boylez, Bolyez, I could never spell that name right
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Last time I talked to John (Boleyz) was about a year and a half ago.
He was doing "ok" then, but as I remember was having a bit of a rough patch.
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12/04/12, 08:25 PM
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Apparently you made a crucial mistake at the beginning.... by not buying the entire property. Don't worry, most people do... thinking that a part of the property they want is overpriced, and they'll settle for just part of it. By not buying it all, you allowed someone else to come in and buy it. At this point, you can start a war, in which you'll never win, or play it cool, and possibly have a nice neighbor (I have heard such critters exist).
Absentee landowners? The untold truth, if you don't physically live on the land, you realllllly don't own it. Of course, you do on paper, 'de jure'... but in the eyes of the locals, you don't 'de facto'.
I'd not do anything, till I moved onto it. If it's going to be years, I'd personally think it was great that the neighbor was running a hot wire on 'my side'... it can only protect your livestock [which is hazardous... not living there... cattle have been know to 'disappear' overnight, to be seen again several states away] and your fence.
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12/04/12, 09:25 PM
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You shouldn't forget about being sued when he falls down and get's hurt climbing over you fence to add the electric.
I'm sorry folks, but when everyone knew everyone there wasn't so much contention about people trespassing on other peoples property. Now it'd different, especially in a sue-we'll get rich world. It gets old finding new flashlights in the cow pasture, especially with a 2700 lb bull in there. How about someone trying to run you off your own land,when they're in your pasture hunting physcodellic mushrooms.
As far as the fella not knowing who owned the property,well that's his job, finding out who!
As far as being a good neighbor, I'm all for it.It makes the world go round. I also believe in starting out like you can go along. If that fella wants to get along he will.
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12/04/12, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm
"Being used" isn't the same as "being open"
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For sure there would be a lot of questions about the situation. But in general terms people should be aware if a "Trail" is "used" by the public for some period of time it becomes a public right to keep using it.
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12/04/12, 10:41 PM
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But in general terms people should be aware if a "Trail" is "used" by the public for some period of time it becomes a public right to keep using it
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If they can PROVE it's been used 20-30 years MAYBE a court would let them continue, but in the case of an ATV trail, it's not likely
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12/05/12, 12:39 AM
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Who pulled the Lazarus on the seven year old thread?
Edit: I see. Well, carry on fussing over an issue that was handled seven years ago.
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12/05/12, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jen74145
Who pulled the Lazarus on the seven year old thread?
Edit: I see. Well, carry on fussing over an issue that was handled seven years ago.
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But ain't it fun for those that didn't get in on it before!
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12/05/12, 04:37 PM
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So what actually happened? Do we know
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12/05/12, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm
If they can PROVE it's been used 20-30 years MAYBE a court would let them continue, but in the case of an ATV trail, it's not likely
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I am personally familer with 100's of miles of ATV trails that are open by court order.So I would say ithere is a STRONG liklyhood that could happen in the appropriate situation.
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12/05/12, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Kay
This thread is so funny. What I want to know is what became of "oilpatch". Is he in jail, shot, or still zipping around on his neighbor's back 40?
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I can shed some light, him mom caught him on another not so wholesome site and he has been grounded from the internet ever since.
It is an interesting thread though even if its so old. In most of Missouri fences on boundaries are shared with the burden of who maintains it belonging to the owner who has livestock and a legal burden to keep them in. If both have livestock or no livestock its a 50/50 deal, put your fence up inside your boundary lines and you open up all kinds of issues if you dont let the neighbor hook on. We even have gates between all of our neighbors to ease in moving livestock back and forth if there is a need (they get out, brush fire or something) and I thank our lucky stars we have such great neighbors.
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12/05/12, 11:52 PM
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one of my neighbors put up a nice barbed wire fence where an older one had been. I guess its right along the property line.
I was glad he didn't ask for me to pay for part. ..course I have no livestock down there and he does.
I wasn't nearly so glad when i went walking on my property to see the left over pieces of new barb wire thrown over the fence onto my property. And the tops to the wooden fence posts they had cut off. Guess they didn't want to litter in their pasture and so much easier to throw into a wooden area. MY wooden area
I imagine they will be surprised when they go to hay next year and meet up with those metal pieces and wooden tops back in HIS pasture. WTH is wrong with people?.
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12/06/12, 01:22 AM
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I am personally familer with 100's of miles of ATV trails that are open by court order.
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Then you shouldn't have a hard time finding something you can show to back that up
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12/06/12, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nc_mtn
Funny, if I was in the situation, I'd just string up my own electric line around the rest of my fence, and hook to his hot wire. Use his electricity to power the rest of my fence line....
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Wouldn't that be........ stealing?
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12/06/12, 04:12 AM
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Just did not read all the content. My friend SIR YET passed a while back and this just gave me mixed emotions. He was the first to post on here and welcome the Grammergoddess.
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