Is there a TP shortage?

I am not liking all the mental images at lunch time lol.

I suppose you could use those little wands and then use your wifes blow dryer to dry yourself. Or how about one of those hand dryers mounted kinda low with the nozzle pointed upwards? Or better yet your average dog will be glad to help you clean yourself if for no ther reason than to get the taste of your wifes cooking out of his mouth.

Sorry folks I think I will stick with tp. The day I cant afford 99 cents to wipe my butt I think I will change jobs.

You can always use snow, that is if you have some. Refreshing and cleansing to boot.

My wife bought a toilet bowl brush. I tried it, but I prefer the TP.

TP from Sam's? Maybe China is running out of trees to process.

I can buy a 24 roll cube at dollar general for 8 bucks.

the cheaper stuff 24 fer 5 bucks.

dont you guys have dollar generals ?
lol

somehow, I dont think I could ever hget used to hosing off my [explitive deleted].....

Much of the world doesn't use TP
We have no idea in the US, and I am starting to understnad here in England, but most Indians and I guess Muslims across Asia (and in the UK) rinse rather than wipe. My fav restaurant in Indian and Pakistani section of London has garden watering cans full of water next to every toilet as well as tp in the ladies' room. Leaves you cleaner and it IS better for hemorrhoids as long as you aren't still too damp when you get dressed again.

How would one use a water can to rinse ones ....bottom? Maybe yoga would help :haha:

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Originally Posted by HermitJohn Real homesteaders use corncobs......

Heard this "joke" before and people do laugh about it but can't seem to tell me what the "real" joke is - like how it came about - any answers?
Heard of people using leaves in case of emergency out in the woods and then bury it.
JackieA

The same question is occurring to me that arose when I watched Frontier House and Pioneer Quest, where the settlers each had their own cloth hankie for the outhouse and a community pail of water: Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems impossibly unsanitary and likely to spread all kinds of disease unless the wife is harnessed to a tub of Clorox bleach (also presumably from Walmart) and P-4 laboratory precautions are taken. . . Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the practicalities of this kind of toileting.

I heard that Roman soldiers did something similar when they were campaigning. Eash soldier was issued a sponge for cleanup. I don't remember if they rinsed the sponge in a basin when they were finished, or if they washed it out under running water. In modern times, a bucket of bleach water should do the trick.

I think it's best to use toilet paper. If you have trouble making a clean break (woops another unpleasant mental image) and are going through it too quickly then perhaps you need to adjust your fiber intake If you have to make more than three passes then you're going to be sanding off more than you bargained for Even with a French-style bum rinse you still need to dry off somehow, otherwise you'll be growing yeast colonies that may develop into a urinary tract infection, and a UTI will really put a hurting on your naughty bits AND your wallet too.

Let's not forget that the Bidet was invented in the 1700's by the French at a time when people would smell quite gamey after six straight days without a bath. I wouldn't call it a truly hygenic device, especially when one considers today the ethnic stereotype placed upon the French with regard to their personal hygeine

Yours Truly,

The Great Smelling French Native American Irish Dutchman.

Nice soft corncobs actually do make very nice buttwipers. I keep a few coffee cans of nice soft corncobs around. That is what I use in the outhouse. Way better than that awful thin toilet paper you could actually see through they used in school that I'm sure some of you will remember. Also work better than pages from phone book or newspaper. Corncobs have just the right combination of softness and cleaning ability and they have sort of a built in handle.

I will add one element that cleans up where the tp occasionally cant finish.....

baby wipes. DG cheapos come in refill cubes, 240 total in little 80 sheet packs.

a 4 buck investment lasts 4 months or more, and when the going gets messy, they keep the exaust port squeky clean disinfected and smelling baby fresh....
read the ingredients, and consider, you wipe a baby bottom with them to keep them disinfected and deododorized.....

I keep a dispenser by the potty, everyone who sees them is awstruck by the simplicty and the stunning effectiveness of them on the grown up bum bum.

not to mention they are perfect for cleaning out the dogs ears/around the mouth and keeping them smelling civil also.

I do not want poopy rinsewater trickling down my leg splashed on my back or washed into crevaces I dont need bathed in poo poo water.

ive used a be-day, and you have to dry off anyway.
if you suggest you re use the drying towel, thats just icky. granted a warm be-day feels pretty nifty, but as a hole cleaner..... the french can have it.

Our family uses cloth wipes. I just have a big stack of wipes sitting on the back of the toilet. We generally take a new wipe each time, although I do occasionally use a wipe twice (in a different spot each time) if I'm just wiping pee. The used wipes go into a waterproof drawsting bag that hangs on the doorknob. I wash the wipes with diapers. Because I wash about 3 times per week, I never have problems with smells. Once our youngest is out of diapers, I'll probably just wash the wipes along with towels.

I don't use bleach, and have never felt the need to. We've never had a problem with diseases or infections. Even when babies have had a diaper rash or I've had yeast infections, it's never been spread to other family members. Just plain old wash in the washing machine. In the winter I use the clothes dryer, in the summer I hang laundry on the clothesline.

Slightly OT- to conserve water, we abide by the "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" philosophy.

Where's Lieutenant Wombat when you need him?

We just watched a show on the city of pompeii. The people there used urine to wash their clothes. I wonder if they washed their sponges in it too???

Urine is considered sterile as it comes from a closed system. This means fluids are transferred across the cell walls via osmosis, filtered, held then released from the body. There is no way for fluid to get straight from the outside to the inside back to the outside without going through a system organ at the cellular level.

The GI tract is considered an open system, meaning food enters from outside the body then exits the body. While it does pass through the GI tract, an item can make it all the way through without ever being contacted by the internal workings of the body.

Using a wipe twice is an invitation for disaster. The urine was sterile the first wipe, but as it sat there waiting for its second use it was contaminated by dust, pollen, dander, yeast, skin cells, hair, mites, and so on and so on and so on. Every person that came close enough to that wipe to move the air left a contaminant on it, and now you’re going to wipe it through your vulva then across your rectum. If your vaginal chemistry is even slightly off you’re bound to contract an infection. And if you have an open spot on the rectum (hemorrhoid, ingrown hair, boil) and you can spark another issue.

I’m all for saving water and paper but storing soiled rags in a bag, dry, is not a good thing. Want to store them safely, maybe get a small pail can, with a foot pedal lid and fill the thing ¼ to ½ full of bleach water and store them there until diaper day. The chlorine will neutralize all the bad stuff and the wetness will keep anything from going airborne.

Do what ever floats your boat but with the new crackdowns by the HMO’s regarding unsafe practices, you might one day be denied coverage for a nasty infection if this practice can be assumed to have contributed to the illness.

go to High tech Japanese bidets in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_toilet
which describes the toilet I want once I quit moving, if I have a water toilet and electricity. Jets to rinse afterwards- 'posterior' or 'feminine' and a blowdryer!!! It's on DH gift list for me for some day. If it's actually affordable in US and we trust hygiene would be better than separate bidet but want this luxury we had at one house in Germany. Why? (Maybe more than youi want to know- stop here if desired) Let's just say two children IBS and occasional night shifts leave me with an occasional need to rinse/avoid overuse tp. Baby wipes might help me but haven't adopted this yet, and kids had rashes to these so I'm hesitant to use in such a delicate area. Shower rinse (enough to leave legs clean) and air dry adequate when needed.

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Michelle