Should hunters be required to pass a test before getting their license?

BobBoyce · #21 12/26/04, 05:54 PM

Kinda simple really... The morons will shoot at sounds, doesn't matter to them what is making the sounds.

Bob

reluctantpatriot · #22 12/26/04, 06:32 PM

People in my area sometimes are known for shooting at sounds alone. I can hear animals long before I can see them and sometimes a squirrel makes more noise than a deer. With the ridges and ravines around here, sounds carry a good distance more than you can see.

I am just saying that in dense cover if you are making noise, hunter orange may not be effective in preventing a hunter from firing in your direction. This is more of a concern on public lands where you have lots of hunters on the same property. There is usually a greatly reduced chance that this will happen on private land unless you have hunters firing into your property from an adjoining one.

I think that along with visual target identification we need to train hunters to never fire at a sound until they have the target clearly identified with visual confirmation.

BobBoyce · #23 12/27/04, 03:12 PM

Exactly... That's how a young lady was shot in the head around here recently. She was in a bush releiving herself, a "hunter" heard the rustling in the bushes and shot her. This happened in an area known to be frequented by campers, and this "hunter" had taken the hunter safety course required to get his hunting license. A lot of good that course did.

Bob

big rockpile · #24 12/27/04, 03:29 PM

reluctantpatriot you must not do much hunting.I'll tell you this if I see brown and white going through the brush where there is not to be anything but Deer.Such as this

Should hunters be required to pass a test before getting their license? - Homesteading Questions

or maybe one of these

Should hunters be required to pass a test before getting their license? - Homesteading Questions

I may not raise my weapon,but it will have my attention.Such as large Hoofed Animals in places they are not suppose to be because their stupid owners can not read regulations.Such as stupid Horse Back Riders in areas they are restricted from being.Along with their Dogs.

No I don't make sound shots,and I have seen Blaze Orange stop me from shooting at game,when I've caught a glimps of it hundreds of yards away in thick brush.

big rockpile

punkrockpilot · #25 12/27/04, 05:53 PM

"Should hunters be required to pass a test before getting their license?"

I will always say no to more government control.

CountryGoalie · #26 12/27/04, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by longshadowfarms

It is already that way here in NY but it hasn't improved anything to my knowledge. You take a course (I think about 8 hrs) and then have to pass a test at the end. I took it about 5 years ago and they do cover all this stuff - don't trespass, get permission to hunt, make sure of what you are shooting at as well as what might be on the other side, gun safety, etc, etc. It is a lovely idea but it still doesn't mean people practice what they are taught.

Yes, I had to take the "hunter education course" before I could get my hunting license. I didn't know that it was just a "NY thing"... I thought it was a national program.

Now I just wish it was.

TnTnTn · #27 12/27/04, 11:03 PM

Seems like this has turned into an antihunter thread. Hunter safety courses are required in most all if not all states for hunters born after a certain date. Seems like 1968 or 1969 pops up frequently. Hunters probably get more 'safety training' that most of the participants in other potentially hazardous outdoor activities. I am a hunter and hunt on my own land, public hunting land, and on the land of others where I have permission.

Should horseback riders be required to pass an eye exam and reading comprehension test too? Horseback riders are the biggest group of trespassers and 'trash passers' that I have on my land. So lets not just pick on hunters. Granted h riders are not as dangerous potentially as a reckless hunter. There are many other 'groups' that exhibit bad behavior when it comes to someone else's property. No group has a lock on virtue or bad behaviour. TnTnTn

Quint · #28 12/28/04, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TnTnTn

Horseback riders are the biggest group of trespassers and 'trash passers' that I have on my land.TnTnTn

Man I hear that. I use to have a neighbor who thought he could ride his horse wherever he pleased. Drunk and down the middle of the road in the dark was one of his favorites when he wasn't trespassing. A guy I know has a heck of a time with the local saddle cub riding over his property, throwing trash around, tearing up the stream banks and fouling his spring with their animal's waste. When I lived away from here I was with a group that tried to get the state to allow carefully controlled ATV riding on the fire roads and countless miles of equestrian trails in the state forest. You would have thought we were proposing the slaughtering of their horses for human consumption. Not only did they have their own campgrounds fully outfitted for equestrian use (at taxpayer expense) but they acted like the trails were their own exclusive property. They would get bent out of shape if they saw hikers on them. God forbid they would see a mountain bike or an ATV. A group of 4 of us were sitting near the outskirts of the equestrian campground relaxing after a coyote hunting trip and a screeching horse skank with a big belt buckle ordered us off their campground. The sight (there was no shooting-we were just sitting on a big log talking, drinking sodas and eating our lunch) of our firearms were frightening her horses. Things got pretty heated and there was a quite an argument with her comments about us being "inbred no good gun toting rednecks" and our comments about her scandalous activities with her horses that we were sure we had seen on some dutch internet site before. It was quite a scene and the park ranger got involved at some point and told the horse skank to "leave those poor boys alone they ain't hurtin' you noways nohow."

I like horses and I like dogs and cats. I have never quite understood dog or car people who were just a little too attached to their animals. The ones that would go so far as have birthday parties for their animals, take them to pet psychologists, dress them like people, set a place for them at the table and consider them their children. Just a little too creepy. I have the same reaction to the really hardcore horse people. There must be some deep seated psychological condition there.

On hunters: The really bad ones seem to be the ones who are older. The vast majority of the younger ones are nothing - absolutely nothing- like the old stereotype of drunken, noise shooting, livestock slaughtering knuckledraggers. I'm not sure if hunter's safety courses had anything to do with that or not but from my firsthand experience it is the older guys who are slobs. Old stereotypes die hard and some people simply hate hunters in general.

Pony · #29 12/28/04, 08:27 AM

I think the law in WI is ludicrous. You have to take the frelling classes and a test if you were born before 1970! DH hasn't the time to mess with that noise.

DH has been handling guns and hunting since he was a little guy. His whole family is extremely conscientious about firearms and hunting, and they make sure ALL the kids (male and female alike) know how to handle and respect guns.

Government ought to spend its time keeping trespassers and poachers on the straight and narrow, rather than trying to identify and locate people who are careful users of guns.

You know what else grinds my gears? The *&$%#@! FOID cards. Why the he** does the guvmint need to know if I own a gun? I'm a law-abiding citizen. I can guarantee you that the folk who commit crimes with their weapons are not carrying that stupid plastic piece of permission from Big Brother.

There. I'm done for now.

big rockpile · #30 12/28/04, 09:56 AM

Well the Guy shot a LLama.I agree stupid,most people wouldn't said nothing.But he did go tell that he had messed up.We have livestock killed here all the time durring Deer Season.It is mostly Kids just seeing what their big guns will do.

Truth is we have gotten away from taking our Kids out hunting,starting out with Small Game and working up to larger Game.Instead we are teaching them that Hunting and Guns are wrong.

I just don't like the Goverment too involved with my Kids,or Hunting.

Now as far as the Horse Back riders.I live next to thousands of acres of State Land durring Firarms Deer Season and Firearms Turkey Season they are not to be riding in there but seems they can't read and go anyway,you go over ther and there is no less than half a dozen trailers in there at a time.

We tried to get them to put a Lake in which would raise property value.But the Horse People protested.

I'm not agaist people riding Horses I use to ride them myself.Just they need to use some common sence.

big rockpile