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11/17/04, 07:53 PM
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Worse yet, her cat thinks he lives in 2 houses; he digs in my garden, uses my abandoned pet door and insists on sleeping with me!
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LMAO :haha: Humm now it doesn't seem to hard to block off a pet door,so neighbors cat couldn't get in.Humm me thinks you might like neighbors kitty just a little. 
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11/17/04, 08:19 PM
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I wasn't making it up
Ohio State University Extension:
If one landowner wants to construct a line fence, Ohio law provides that the neighboring landowner must share equally in the cost of building the fence.
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Aparently that is the case with our farm and the school's farm. It is a joint effort between neighbors on maintaining and putting up fences. Though if you want your aniamls kept in you better make sure there is a fence there. Our neighbor agreed to rebuild the fenceline between us if we paid for part of it. He ripped out the entire fence line and quit. 
So we are patching it as the girls figure out where there isn't fence. A good portion still doesn't ahve any fence up...the girls just don't get bored enough to figure it out. 
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11/17/04, 11:45 PM
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OK, I'm going to pitch in on this one now... Getting a survey is a good idea, but it cost money. Since you bought your home only 3 years ago... did you happen to get a title policy? If you financed, I'm willing to bet that the bank insisted on it. If you did, pull it out and see what it says. It should have all the measurements, as they are recorded in the county. IF there is a mistake, make the title company pay for it. That is what the title policy is there for. They will have to cover the survey, and the cost involved in getting this mess cleared up including any court cost. JMHO
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11/18/04, 07:39 AM
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Responding to JanOs comment.
When most people buy property (with a mortgage), the title insurance is for the lenders benefit. Unless the person pays extra the title insurance does not necessarily protect their interests.
If you haven't paid for your own title insurance then the title company is not likely to respond. On the other hand, if the mortgage holder went to them they would be legally obliged to respond.
Given the facts presented so far, it would not appear that the title insurance company would have any obligation to do anything. It is he said/she said. Once someone takes legal action and the title is clouded is the point that title insurance would kick in.
As usual, just my 2 cents.
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11/18/04, 12:11 PM
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Just my .02 here. But the innocent party usually is the one to get hurt ($$$) in cases like this. Bite the bullet, pay for a survey, install a fence and go on with your life. Once you know , and can prove you are right, sue the hell out of the next one.
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11/21/04, 01:00 PM
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It's great to have heard all of your ideas. We appreciate it. Here in my town, to get our tiny parcel of land surveyed it will cost $2500. We do not have money like that!!! So we are kind of stuck until spring when we get our income tax return. I agree with what one of you said about the innocent party getting the short end of the stick in the money dept. She is one with an issue, yet we are supposed to pay thousands of dollars to make her happy! It's just not right!!!
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11/21/04, 02:03 PM
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Good lord i figured more around 350+. Did you tell them the corner pins/stacks are still there? I would have figured that might make a little difference to them.But not enough of a difference in 2500 maybe. 
Ok so you might not be able to get your land back right away.But that doesn't mean you have to let her enjoy it.Fight fire with fire.Spray your half of her garden with weed killer.Maybe even help her compost! Then wait, and hope she sues you.When she does she will find she is at fault.And also make your counter suit much easer to win(should you decide you want her to put your fence back up).Then agin maybe you shouldn't listen to me.I'm not the brightest person to listen to, or deal with.If nothing else id be laying a concrete block wall this weekend if it where me.
There has to be some government office that can help you.Sence it has already been surveyed recently and the corner stacks are still there for them to see and measure from..
Ok so how do you have someone run off your property or arrested for trespassing.(destruction of your property in this case!)If you cant prove at that moment to the cops that it is your property?
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11/21/04, 05:27 PM
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Wow! $2500 for the survey of a small lot? Before I bought in 1997, it was only $600 for a survey to find out the advertised 5 acre woodland lot I wanted to buy, was really only about 4 acres. And this is rugged mountain land, much harder to survey. The sellers split that cost with me. I registered the survey with the county, then last year I noticed they were still taxing me for the full 5 acres. When I brought it to their attention, the county refunded the 1 acre tax difference for the past 5 years. I kinda feel sorry for the developer that wants to buy the land next to me. It's priced and advertised as 21.5 acres, but should survey out to about 17 acres. All the old surveys here were done with lengths of chain laid out on the ground, so they followed the contour of the land. That may work ok for flat land, not so ok for mountains.
Egee, have you shopped around for other surveyors? They don't have to be local. You may get a better price from a surveyor a town or two away.
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11/21/04, 06:26 PM
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Here in my town, to get our tiny parcel of land surveyed it will cost $2500. Egee
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Egee,
Is there a university near you with an engineering program? When I went to school, all the civil engineers had to take a surveying class, and I'd often see them around campus "practicing". Perhaps you could invite a few students to "practice" by surveying your property. It wouldn't be "official", but it would at least give you a good idea of where you stand. Might be worth a phone call or two to see if it's a possibility.
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11/21/04, 06:50 PM
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Egee , get your deed out and plot on paper the calls and bounds and determine if the property lines will close. By closing, I am asking if the beginning point and the ending point are one and the same after you plot the property. If it closes then it is doubtful if there is an error in the deed description. If it does not close then the neighbor may have a legitimate position. Once it closes, then verify by measuring to see it the calls match the stakes that exist. You should be able to verify on your own if there is need for a survey.
PS..... plot your neighbors deed also and see if theirs will close. If it doesn't then you will know the error is with them.
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