Paranoid?

Chikin, please go read the below posts if youhave a interest in mental health; just backspace the URL numbers and replace them with;
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The government that sent me to VN is the same government whom pulls the strings at the government school where you did so well, comrad.

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If you can read this - thank a teacher. If you can read this in English - thank a veteran.

Never mistake kindness for weakness.

Hey John my generation was the last to vaccinated for smallpox. Now I know that a small percentage of the population will have a bad reaction to a vaccine. I believe the benefits outweigh the risks. Before someone says it is some illuminati plot or some such the vaccine was developed in by Jenner in the early 1800's and it is NOT smallpox the vaccine is actually cowpox a close cousin. Jenner noticed that milk maids did not get smallpox. Their close contact with cattle daily exposed them to cowpox and it is a close enough relative to prevent smallpox. If you get cowpox it is extremely rare to get ill and die. Jenner coducted his experiments on the neighborhood children and when he showed the results the royal family of england quickly became vacinated.

Does anyone here remember the Ginzu knife commercials?

Chiken, all jokes aside, you are VERY welcome here!

*But wait! It gets better!*

We are a fairly intelligent bunch, here. Most of us have done things that we were raised to believe that we couldn't. We defied the odds, reinvented the wheel when it was necessary, and we succeeded. When you come here, you are among your intellectual equals.

*But, wait, it gets better!*

Some of these folks have walked pathways that you haven't, yet. In the case of some of the veterans, pathways that none of us really WANT to walk! I can not TELL you what I would have given for a good mentor when I was your age! I would have been in the country a good decade sooner, and had my ag-based business underway not long after!

*But, wait, it gets better! *

In the archives, you will learn to build your own house, and build it to code. You will learn to start and run your own business. You will learn how to make something out of nothing, to your great profit. You will learn how to fight City Hall. Better yet, you will learn how to arrange things so you don't HAVE to fight City Hall! You will learn how to go to college and come out with a degree and no debt.

*But wait! We're not done, yet!*

When you study psychology in your college classes, pay VERY close attendance to the difference between an illness and a trait. Study the lives of some of the great inventors, see what problems they had in their lives and how they solved them. See if you can identify when a trait is of benefit, and when it is counter-productive. Give serious thoughts as to how heredity works.

THEN, and ONLY then, see if you can study the writings of some of the more experienced people on the board, and see if you can identify what motivates people to excell in a certain field. Adaptation, or illness?

A few examples, and I am NOT using people on the board for this.

Euell Gibbons studied, lectured, and wrote about the way that modern people could forage for food in case of hunger and hard times. It would be easy to suspect him of paranoia.....EXCEPT that he was a child of the depression, an Okie, and his childhood gathering skills often provided his family with much of their diet. Not paranoia. Preparedness, and someone who was called to teach.

Albert Einstein had problems. Major ones. But, he was great. Where does obsession end off and genius begin?

Chiken, forgive me if I sound like a know-it-all. I will be 50 my next birthday, and I have known many interesting people in that time. It is fascinating what people do, and why.

I ALSO know that a young man is more interested in EXPLORING the world than anything else. I hope that you will share your journey with us. It is the only way that ANY of us get to know what it is like to be a Doctor/lawyer/Indian Chief/Pagan/Christian/Muslim/Buddist and so forth, if you get my drift.

Oh, Lord!!! Laura... :worship: :worship: :worship: (Your first post caught my attention.. but you just keep gettin' better!!! I'm almost afraid to go on reading!! LOL!!

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"TIMSHEL"
Spoiler ALERT: For those of you who've never read Steinbeck's "East of Eden".... timshel means "thou mayest".

ROFLMAO!!! Cen ah bring ma trakter??? :worship:

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"TIMSHEL"
Spoiler ALERT: For those of you who've never read Steinbeck's "East of Eden".... timshel means "thou mayest".

Are ya all sure yur not democrats Jest tryn ta find out who is paranoid sos ya kin get rid of usn?

I think, no I'll ponder tat idera

Are ya all sure yur not Republicans Jest tryn ta find out who is paranoid sos ya kin get rid of usn?

I think, no I'll poner tat idera.

Are any of you gals drinking liquid lubrications right now? Remember that the first one whom says 'I am so drunk' gets nailed first......wait, the list starts by registering here first.......

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If you can read this - thank a teacher. If you can read this in English - thank a veteran.

Never mistake kindness for weakness.

::lightbulb::

In fact, in order to be allowed into my extremely special FEMA re-education center, you are required to bring your own tractor. :yeeha:

Speaking about 'Brave New World'....

I was on a different discussion board (an ebay board) a few days ago and tried to look up a thread to which I had responded. The person who had started the thread was upset about something ebay had done. But the thread was gone. So I posted a question as to what had happened to it.

I got an email from another individual who told me that it (the thread) had been 'pulled' by the administrators and warned me that we weren't supposed to even mention threads that had been pulled. Sure enough, my question had been pulled also.

It was sort of strange.

Remember how - in 'Brave New World' - the enemy they were fighting kept changing? First they were fighting 'A', then they were fighting 'B'. The main characters job was to re-write history so that it seemed they had always been fighting 'B'. And it worked - people forgot what had really happened and were being led by the nose by their leaders.

Heck, the whole Iraq war has reminded me of 'Brave New World' (First 'war against terrorism', then 'WoMD', now it's the 'War for Iraqi Freedom'). What's really scary is that people believe this. I've had people tell me - in all seriousness - that the reason we invaded Iraq was to free the Iraqi people from oppression!!?!? Hellooo??!!? Don't they even remember things from two years ago???

My kids accuse me of being paranoid all the time, mainly cause I warn them about Everything. (Bike brakes don't work well in the rain, lock the door when you go out, take your jacket in case it gets chilly...all the "Oh, Mom!" things) LOL
But Barbarake, wasn't it "1984" where the enemy this week is a pal next week? "Brave New World" had everybody happy because they were conditioned & drugged?

If anybody wants to read a really disturbing book, find "Brave New World Revisited". Chikin didn't give it enough credit. "Brave New World" was written in the early 1930s. In the late 1950s Aldous Huxley wrote a non-fiction look at the trends & factors that led him to write "Brave New World". In "Revisited" he says the pressure for conformity & growth of what the Brits call 'nanny-government' had accelerated. He had placed BNW a few hundred years in the future & in Revisited he revised that to something under 100. He said one sign of doom would be "When you see political candidates marketed like soap flakes" (I paraphrase because I passed my copy of "Revisited" along to someone else-whom I will not name in case They are watching!;-)

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Cindy in SW PA

I confess that I have a paranoid streak. Looking at it logically, it seems to me that there are a few undeniable realities that are hard to ignore:

(1) One of the most fundamental human instincts is the craving for power.

(2) In today's society, control of information is the surest way to obtain power.

(3) History tells us that our own government is not averse to using segments of the population as pawns in its own quest for power.

(4) It is sometimes surprising, in this age of information, the extent to which the truth can be hard to get at. Take the war in Iraq. Does anybody feel like they really have a handle on what's going on?

On the other hand,

(5) Have you ever known our government to be able to "get it together" enough to pull anything off efficiently?

The latter observation gives me consolation. Actually, I think the bigger threat is found in the private sector.

"Heck, the whole Iraq war has reminded me of 'Brave New World' (First 'war against terrorism', then 'WoMD', now it's the 'War for Iraqi Freedom'). What's really scary is that people believe this. I've had people tell me - in all seriousness - that the reason we invaded Iraq was to free the Iraqi people from oppression!!?!? Hellooo??!!? Don't they even remember things from two years ago???"

Dang.......I thought I had a stroke of paranoia when I saw that back a ways.....my hubby and I both did in fact. Made us wonder who the tech writer was for this particular score.

Hmmm,

Question: If someone is 'paranoid' of getting shot and there is someone pointing a gun at their head, are they paranoid? Or, are they wide awake and being terrorized?

People who grew up during peaceful times or nonwar zones develop PTSD when they are bombed.

People who grow up during war times miss the chaos when things become peaceful because chaos seems normal to them. They will even go to great lengths to feel normal by creating chaos around them. Other people's lives will be disrupted because of this chaos but that one individual who needed it will feel normal.

Then, there are the people in the middle. They were born in peaceful times and adjusted to chaos and long for peace. When the peace finally came they didn't know how to respond. Their behaviors and coping mechanisms had changed.

So, If someone is 'paranoid' of getting shot and there is someone pointing a gun at their head, are they paranoid? Or, are they wide awake and being terrorized?

Does the answer change? No, but I will guarantee you that the person who grew up having their lives threatened continuously will respond to it differently than the one who has never seen a gun.

Diane - I remember the first time I heard the phrase 'War for Iraqi Freedom'. It was April of 2003 - the day the US invaded Baghdad and toppled that big statue of Saddam Hussain. I wasn't really watching the television - it was just on in the background. But the announcer mentioned that phrase and my head whipped around when I heard it. I remember thinking "This is just like 1984. They're coming up with a new reason for this war and in a few months, people will believe it." I was really aghast - it seemed so blatent and I couldn't really believe people would fall for it.

But I was wrong. People will believe anything if they hear it enough times.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm paranoid, but I do think I have a healthy skepticism. (Then again, if I really were paranoid, I doubt I'd recognize it. )

I think there are a lot of people who get a great deal of satisfaction out of being more self-sufficient. For some, it's a way of reducing expenses so that they can live off of less. For others, it's a way to practice what they preach--becoming good stewards of the land and not wasting resources. For still others, it's a satisfying lifestyle, working hard and seeing (and enjoying) the results. I suppose some are preparing for the end of the world, but I think most are just preparing for emergencies and hard times. There's something very comforting knowing you've got enough food stored up to feed your family for many months, that you can get by with a whole lot less, and that your list of "needs" isn't really as long as you might thing.

As for the government conspiracies, I think many folks have come to the profound conclusion that the government has taken on a life of its own. I am not a radical, but I do believe that our government has lost its way, and folks are so interested in being "safe," that they are willing to give up their liberties. Now, I'm not talking about increased security when getting on airplanes. Rather, I'm talking about things like the government's ability to hold just about anyone it wishes without bail, without public hearing, and without benefit of counsel. :no:

Live a few more years, and you might become a bit more paranoid.

HOw about 1984? That is a relevant book as is Animal Farm, both by George Orwell.

CarolinaBound

www.watkinsonline.com/bennett

Paranoia:

1. A psychotic disorder characterized by delusions of persecution with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason.

2. Extreme, irrational distrust of others.

3. A tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others.


Sodium Fluoride was used widely as a pesticide until is was banned from use in the USA because it was too toxic to the people using it. We now put it in toothpaste.

The MEHPA allows a governor of a state to declare a state of emergency and force its citizens to any medical examine or treatment seen fit.

Gulf war vets were mass inoculated with an untested anthrax vaccine.

Norad was told to "stand down" on Sept. 11th and Air traffic control tapes for from Sept. 11th were destroyed.


Others may feel the need to expand on this list. The US Patriot Act alone should scare the begeezes out of people. These are not delusions or irrational fears. These things exist. Some people may go too far and think their toothbrush is taking little pictures of them, but they represent the smallest of percentages. Most people who are "paranoid" about the government are just well informed.

Like the bumper sticker says........If you're not a little bit paranoid, you're not paying attention.

Did you know that the Original GinZu knife was made in the USA? Yep I have one or two or maybe 3. Boy that was a great old time commercial.

ANyone remember a little thing called "the depression"?

Well its not a matter of "if" we have another one but ''when'' we will have another one.

things to consider are that when the first depression hit the vast majority of folks back then lived rural lifestyles and knew how to forage, raise their own food etc. Most old folks I know that were children back during the depression never knew there was anything different going on. My grt grandfather actually flourished a little.

Now fast forward to modern times. Folks that live in the country cant care for themselves much less those in the city. I am a firm beleiver that the next time around things will get a whole lot uglier. There will be folks shooting over food etc. I choose to hope it wont happen in the next hundred years or so but I know better. I dont propose it will be the end of civilization as we know it but it will get really ugly for awhile. I would just like to be as self sufficient as possible so as to not be any worse off than my grt grandfather. If you have all the good stuff you may even turn a decent profit. But mostly I just dont want to see my family do without or robbed or killed ofr supplies.

You had seventy percent self sufficient during the first depression and only about five percent now. Something to think about