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Old 09/03/04, 05:44 PM
 
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With the truly dramatic increase in juvanile diabetes and general obesity and cancer in our society over the last 20-30 years maybe cola and other food additives have something to do with it ya think?? Us old timers still have taste buds that work and I for one can tell the difference in the foods sold now days compared to even 10 years ago and there is a dramatic difference is taste and nutrition in my homegrown foods and what is bought in the stores which I no longer buy and I feel lots better physically and mentally. Personal choice and personal experiences.
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Old 09/03/04, 05:47 PM
 
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Me too,

Hi Y'all & Moopups,

Hunnh. It's the "prices" that make me Paranoid.

I remember Coke, for a nickel a 6 oz.bottle, & Pepsi a 12 oz. bottle too.
I remember 18 cents a gallon for gasoline, penny candy, it goes on & on.
Oh, and 18 cent for Camels & Luckies.
I'm in much the same place you are Moopups.
All these new inventions.
Of course, I worked for 75 cents or a dollar an hour back then too.
I Don't think I'm partanoid though, just a "lon-n-n-nger memory.
Hunnh!
y'all have a Great Holiday weekend
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Old 09/03/04, 07:52 PM
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Paranoid!!!???

I am not!!! :no:

Make her stop talking about me!!!

I know ya'll are all in on this aren't you!!!

(great post by the way moopups. ditto)
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I've read Brave New World. It was a good book. I haven't noticed any excessive paranoia here. But then, I live with a son who is bipolar and a self-proclaimed anarchist. Talk about paranoid!
OMG!!! ROFLMAO!!! AT least with my offspring 'problems' there are TWO of them to share the "wealth" so to speak... Poor Raven... all rolled up in one kid... :no: My heart goes out to you! (But then, I'm not really SURE about mine!!
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Old 09/03/04, 09:17 PM
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I think that the folks who obsess over The New World Order, The Illuminati, FEMA, the Rothchilds, Men In Black, Contrails, UN Black Helicopters, and The Mark of the Beast are paranoid...

...but I recognize that I might be wrong and they might be right - in that case, boy will I feel silly when I'm dragged off to the FEMA NWO re-education camp...

Oh.. JOHN.. you warm my heart!! At least you're THINKING of the possibiliy.. yay. That's all I ever wanted. :worship:
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Old 09/03/04, 09:57 PM
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But ... wait.

I thought this WAS the FEMA re-education camp!

Oh dear!






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Old 09/03/04, 10:11 PM
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My Grandfathers saw the invention of the automobile, the invention of the airplane, the moon landing, WW1 and WW2 and the great depression.

My parents saw the Korean war and the Vietnam war and double digit inflation. I have seen the Viet nam war (not in person, though), double digit inflation, double digit unemployement (this one was tough, nobody even took my application because I was only 18), and Desert Storm and Iraq (again not in person). America is also checking into going into Sudan.

Change happens, and so does hard times. If they reinstate the draft, by the way, you are of the right age. Our military forces are stretched pretty thin right now, and soon the demand will be for more soldiers.

I do not agree with people who think we are near the end of the world as we know it. But, I can *certainly* understand why some people do!
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Old 09/04/04, 01:50 AM
 
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Oh.. JOHN.. you warm my heart!! At least you're THINKING of the possibiliy.. yay. That's all I ever wanted. :worship:
Aw shucks, chickflick - you're nifty too...

BTW, did you notice if President Bush used the phrase 'New American Century' in his acceptance speech? I thought he did and thought that was the same phrase used for the Neocon's group...shades of Bush the First using the phrase New World Order, and I'll admit that caught my attention then.

Is this thread drift or another example of the thread subject? :haha:
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I've always lived way out in the sticks and liked it. I never liked what I saw on TV so I didn't watch. I didn't even know what cable or MTV was until I was 27 years old. Apparently, it had been around for awhile by then.

I never liked commercialism. My family, my friends, my neighbors and myself want what is best for me. Corporations don't know me and don't give a darn about my wellbeing, they just want a profit. Why would I trust them to look out for my health and the health of my children?

The same with the government. Did you know if I feed my little kid a peach, the pesticide residue exceeds the amount allowed by EPA and is considered a threat to her health? Oh yes, that government is looking out for us, aren't they?

I got a really big clue when I was in my 20s living in a log cabin out in the mountains. My 2 closest neighbors on each side of me were both veterans of WWI and WWII and one had fought in Cuba, too. We would consider both of these gentlemen Homesteaders, but they were simply living the life they loved.

We would discuss the daily trials and tribulations, current events and the world. In our own isolated part of the country, the government became a problem. I witnessed both these men cry because the freedoms they fought for, saw friends die for, were gone. They sacraficed much and stood vigilant for decades, believing in the freedoms of this nation and believing that others stood vigilant after they retired. They saw their freedoms taken away, not by foreign enemies, but by a generation of ill-educated citizens who willingly gave up their freedom for self-gratification.

These gentlemen taught me how much was lost while I lived in ignorant bliss. We learned together and separately that the government is NOT here to help us, that courtrooms have nothing to do with Truth or Justice, and freedoms lost are never regained.

BTW, I don't drink storebought carbonated beverages because they rot the teeth, dissolve the stomach lining, add unwanted calories, don't quench my thirst, taste nasty and are simply made to separate my money from my pocket. I think those are good enough reasons to turn up my nose at carbonated beverages.
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Old 09/04/04, 07:52 AM
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Chikin,
The boards do have a wide and varied participation. As far as paranoia levels, its probably no worse than general society. One advantage here is that the data is so accessible for those searching for it. If you happen to find yourself in a psych class these boards can often provide observation to assist in your studies.
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Moopups, a big thank you! Your responses are wonderful! And, they also put a big smile on my face. A great way to start the day. :haha: :haha:

I'm not paranoid either....not a bit.....why do people stare at me.....why do they whisper.......
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Old 09/04/04, 08:23 AM
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Chikin, we might have a few paranoid people like you describe. So what? It's America. Everyone is free to be as wierd as they want to be.
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Old 09/04/04, 08:40 AM
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In the newer days of the forum, back when it was still countryside magazine forum, someone described paranoia as "total awareness". I've never forgotten that. It reminds me that sometimes you need to look at things beyond face value. Good luck to you!
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Example of what? That is a direct question Chikin. The examples given are my experiences over this lifetime, once your about 3 1/2 times older than now your comments about paranoia could be taken seriously, presently they are not. What completely different changes have you seen this lifetime? You stated that you rescently got out of highschool, do you know what a turntable is? How about an 8 track?

Radar, microwaves, panty hose, poptops, puters, beepers, cell phones, color tv, cds, casettes, the internet, permante press clothes, touch tone phones, wheres the beef, pizzas popularity, canned beverages, baby monitors, disposable diapers, cable tv, satellite tv, mtv, electronic fund transfer, credit cards, Ronco presents, radial tires, many medicins, rocket rides, moon walks, mood rings, and many things more if I had need to display such. They all came to this planet after I did, yet I am paranoid because you have such an experienced view of life? Or would that be inexperienced?

At least I didn't call you Chittlin, so don't make me bring my paddle over there you whippersnapper! Or it will be :waa: for you.

Anybody else need charmin' while I am on a roll?
well I guess you weren't really a good example
I'm not as dumb as you think I am, in fact I bet I'm a lot smarter than you were when you were my age. does being in the top 5% in my graduating class and top &5 of students nation wide according to my test scores mean anything to you? it does to me. and yes I know what a turntable is, just in case you didn't know they're actually become quite popular again, lol. I guess I do just notice the paranoid people b/c I am such a psychology buff.
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Old 09/04/04, 10:31 AM
 
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In the newer days of the forum, back when it was still countryside magazine forum, someone described paranoia as "total awareness". I've never forgotten that. It reminds me that sometimes you need to look at things beyond face value. Good luck to you!
I understand what your saying and I agree with you but the paranoia in the people I see is controlling their lives actually making them more miserable than happy. I'm talking people with mental disorders and you can tell as soon as they start talking. it's more than having total awareness, it's believing whatever bad things you hear and obsessing over it.
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---"I'm not as dumb as you think I am, in fact I bet I'm a lot smarter than you were when you were my age. does being in the top 5% in my graduating class and top &5 of students nation wide according to my test scores mean anything to you? it does to me. and yes I know what a turntable is, just in case you didn't know they're actually become quite popular again, lol. I guess I do just notice the paranoid people b/c I am such a psychology buff."---Chikin

I doubt any of us are impressed as somewhere close to 80% of this board probably had that distinction. The rest were probably too independent of thinkers to care. All it means to me is that you are a government trained performing seal. Can you balance a ball on your nose too? Do you plan to continue performing to get government and corporate brownie points or will you enter the real world of independent thinking and find out how much you were lied to by your state approved curriculums and teachers?

No, I am not impressed. Knowledge and wisdom come from experience and you don't have those yet. Some people never get wisdom or knowledge. Wisdom would teach you not to insult your elders. Labeling others who think differently from you, who have different life experience than you, and much more of it, who draw different conlusions in life, as paranoid or mentally ill is not a part of good psychology, but only shows YOUR OWN lack of knowledge or ignorance.

I personally don't see any clinically "paranoid" people on this forum or in my circle of homesteading friends. But then, I haven't administered the Minnesota Multiphasic and personally interviewed them, either. What I do see are lots of people who are highly intelligent, creative thinkers who value their independence from corporate and government control and who work creatively to minimize these intrusions into their lives. When you have your own homestead, you will understand these concept more thoroughly.

Besides, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Old 09/04/04, 04:09 PM
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"shades of Bush the First using the phrase New World Order, and I'll admit that caught my attention then." It did me also John

I always love it when some youngster comes on board and has everything all figured out. What Laura said.....I am totally unimpressed.

I love to homestead, and I worry about what is happening in the world. I see homesteading as a way to be as least affected by what is going on as I can possibly be. We took the T.V. out of our home years ago. Nothing on it ever represented our life, nor did we want to spend the time watching the rubbish they were putting out.

I don't think it is paranoid in the least to be prepared to take care of yourself instead of expecting uncle sam to. He's not my uncle!!! I love the U.S.A., but I distrust what we have become. Does that make me paranoid? Who really gives a rip. I love this forum and always have because we are such a variety.
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Old 09/04/04, 04:15 PM
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I doubt any of us are impressed as somewhere close to 80% of this board probably had that distinction. The rest were probably too independent of thinkers to care. All it means to me is that you are a government trained performing seal. Can you balance a ball on your nose too? Do you plan to continue performing to get government and corporate brownie points or will you enter the real world of independent thinking and find out how much you were lied to by your state approved curriculums and teachers?
I scored in the top 1% amost all the way from grade to hs. It's meaningless. All that really tells you is that I have very good verbal and abstract thinking skills --- and that I perform best under pressure. :haha: Which is absolutely true and absolutely requisite for suvvessful test taking.

But there are MANY MANY different kinds of intelligence. More important, they've even discovered --- for sure --- that even in academic contexts, it's the so-called low scorers (?) who tend to outperform the high score-rs, once you get beyond the first and second years of college.

Now I teach. Meaning I sit at the other side of that testing score card. And it truly is the well-rounded student, with steady emotional capacities, good instincts, the ability to self-critique, the ability to utilize an array of *intelligences* who inevitably outperforms the booksmart (--->i.e. me! ) kids.

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Knowledge and wisdom come from experience and you don't have those yet. Some people never get wisdom or knowledge.
Yes again.

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Wisdom would teach you not to insult your elders. Labeling others who think differently from you, who have different life experience than you, and much more of it, who draw different conlusions in life, as paranoid or mentally ill is not a part of good psychology, but only shows YOUR OWN lack of knowledge or ignorance.
And yes again.

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I personally don't see any clinically "paranoid" people on this forum or in my circle of homesteading friends. But then, I haven't administered the Minnesota Multiphasic and personally interviewed them, either. What I do see are lots of people who are highly intelligent, creative thinkers who value their independence from corporate and government control and who work creatively to minimize these intrusions into their lives. When you have your own homestead, you will understand these concept more thoroughly.
And yes again!

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Besides, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
*hitting the floor*

:haha:

BTW, I'm now officially offering my place as the official FEMA re-education center for this area. Be prepared to mow, however. And paint ceilings. :yeeha:
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not true. a diet high in soft drinks increases the risk of kidney stones and osteoporosis. Not to mention all those extra calories and obesity, and dental decay. And yes you probably are over-reacting, although I wont go so far as to say paranoid. I don't know you well enough


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ok, I just pulled that carbonated drink idea out of my butt. see what I'm talking about? people can find something wrong with anything and everything, yet everyday millions upon millions of people use them and nothing ever happens to them. Something's going to kill you one day and it's not going to be anyone's fault, just god's plan
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Old 09/04/04, 04:35 PM
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I understand what your saying and I agree with you but the paranoia in the people I see is controlling their lives actually making them more miserable than happy. I'm talking people with mental disorders and you can tell as soon as they start talking. it's more than having total awareness, it's believing whatever bad things you hear and obsessing over it.

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