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Unread 06/23/15, 01:07 PM
 
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I actually have to drive to Minneapolis this week to take one of my boys to a camp at the university for a month. When you mentioned all the lakes, it made me think I sure better take advantage of whatever I can glean from observing all the lakes on the way there! Never been to anywhere in Minnesota, so I'm excited to see if I can check any out while I'm there.
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For the collar on the pipe that is giving you problems just dig a trench in the soil around the pipe and perpendicular to the pipe. Go to a box store and purchase bags of premixed concrete and fill the trench to form the collar. A couple of these collars will stop seepage and will also hold the pipe in place. This is a cheap fix that works.
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My hubby and dad were just talking about doing something like that earlier today
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Reading through this....

You have a pond that was small, was then converted to larger by digging and piling more. (That kinda is risky, not designed right for the flows and stresses....)

You have a bad exit pipe, fixed, and went bad in a year again. (That's a bad design, those pipe need to be anchored right, packed in right, have a stop ring around them to preven water soaking along the outsides of the. And washing out. Takes a person who knows what they are doing, not a guy with a backhoe...)

You have a livestock, which if uphill will foul your water on their own.

You have an intermittent flow to feed this pond, which is just problematic all around. Stuff builds up on the surrounding terrain, and then is all flushed into your pond quickly in a rainfall, but the water stops running before it flushes the junk through. Really a tough deal. This is hard to get past. More or less without constant flow, this is just a deal killer. (The off and on flow also is tough on your exit pipe, as the dirt is gonna swell and shrink around it, why you are having leaks and failures of the pipe....)

I believe barley straw is the correct one to help with scummy ponds, not rye or other - use barley straw if you want to try this.

If you have some room to the upstream side, a cattail rush type of wetlands could filter some nutrients and silt, but with your on/off flow, its going to be a difficult thing to make worthwhile, and likely will take up more room that you are willing or can afford to lose. It would be a prefix ter to trap and use the nutrient load, but you have a tough set of issues there to make it work.

You have a tough deal there.

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Careful with that cattail thing, EPA can step in and call it a wetland,as well as your own state environmental Agency.

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Unread 06/24/15, 10:14 PM
 
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Careful with that cattail thing, EPA can step in and call it a wetland,as well as your own state environmental Agency.

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Good to know thanks.

The guys were talking about using bentonite clay to anchor the overflow pipe I think.

I'll keep y'all posted with what we do.

Haven't got a date yet for the fish delivery.

But, if all goes smoothly, maybe I can even get hubby to help me put up some pictures of our pond.

Probably would help, considering I'm not sure how much I've muddled up some of my descriptions on here.

So grateful to everyone for sharing with me on here. It really helps perk me up. I was feeling pretty defeated and a little lost about what to do when I started this thread. Doing much better now thanks to y'all, so thanks.
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Wet bentonite clay on a slope is the slipperiest thing I've ever seen. One second you're standing there looking at the pond and the next your on your butt sliding into the pond.

Be sure to cover it with soil.

Is it leaking around the discharge pipe?
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I'm not sure, ever thing was saturated over there a few days ago after th last big rains.
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The best time to check is during a dry spell.
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