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Anyone else notice persistant jet trails in the sky?
Yesterday... I watched as a couple jets blanketed the skies . I'm in central NY. At first the day was crystal clear, pure blue..then around 10:00am these jets appeared. I watched them Kris-cross the sky for the next 3 or 4 hours. Behind them was a trail that did not go away. Over the next hour the trails came together to completely cover the sky! Serioulsy the whole area had become erirly dark. I noticed an odd smell as well. Looking at the sun I could see what could best be described as a oil slick ring around the sun.
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Do we have a Paranoid Forum? You could sub-title it, "George Noory Goes Country"
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Google "chemtrails". That is what you are describing.
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Sally ... um..that was really unhelpful. What I saw was real.. but thanks for that useless comment
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Yes, they happen. I watch bright blue skies get crossed over in grids of lines, and if you watch those lines, they become complete "cloud" covers. There's no mistaking that the overcast skies come directly from the trails, it just takes the time to sit and watch it happen.
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It supposedly is an attempt to alter sunlight reaching the ground. Chemicals are sprayed and they spread to make the sky overcast. Geoengineering is what it is referred to.
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But why would they do that? Why would you NOT want sunlight reaching the ground? I'm still confused.
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Well in my observation it isn't primarily about sunlight. The particles draw moisture and there's quite often precipitation following a serious spraying. The weather patterns in general are being effected. They have had the technology to control weather for decades. Can't think of any reason they wouldn't.
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If you knew who "they" were, you wouldn't have to ask.
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Huge list, can't paste them all, but you can go to the link and see more.
"1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists 1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft 1631753 – June 7, 1927 – Electric Heater – Referenced in 3990987 1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs 1892132 – December 27, 1932 – Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts 1928963 – October 3, 1933 – Electrical System And Method 1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment 2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987 2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture 2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator 2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device 2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather 2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes 2591988 – April 8, 1952 – Production of TiO2 Pigments – Referenced in 3899144 2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture 2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator 2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987 2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere 2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device 2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987 2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields 2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds.." http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/a...st-of-patents/ |
Its (fairly) simple physics. When you burn hydrocarbons you wind up with heat and water (and other things but not really important here).
When you put warm moist air into a cold environment you get condensation. Think about when you start your car on a winter morning. Now we know that the 'contrail' from your car doesn't stay floating down the street for hours. And if you watch you will see that many aircraft don't seem to leave them either. How big and how long they last behind aircraft depends on the the atmospheric conditions. When things line up just right they actually become clouds which is what you are probably talking about. Unless you are one of those who don't trust anything from the government there's a much better explanation here: http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/con...du/science.php BTW, if you research a bit you will discover piston engined aircraft cause them as well. AAMOF, there are reports of the contrails formed by the huge bomber formations in WWII caused clouds that covered cities. |
Yes it is nothing more then water vapor and NOTHING more. no chemtrails that is night time talk radio voodoo talk.
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Not a chance what I've observed is contrails. I don't know where seeing this many contrails is "normal", but it certainly isn't where I live.
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"United States Patent 6,315,213
Cordani November 13, 2001 Method of modifying weather Abstract A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain. Inventors: Cordani; Peter (Lake Park, FL) Appl. No.: 09/598,660 Filed: June 21, 2000" http://patents.com/us-6315213.html |
From my experience, Contrails stay in a thin line and disappear after a few minutes, on some higher altitude flights you can also see the trail of vapor ending too.
Chemtrails last for hours, and the thin trails then slowly expand over broad areas as they fall, often with several crossing each other. Pretty hard to confuse the two. |
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I hate the chem skies and they're frequent and nasty. None step forward to claim responsibility for turning the skies into a nasty mess. That's no surprise. I first noticed them in 1997. I think each person has to have their inner light bulb turned on before they "see" the chemtrails though.
I'd sure like to see one of those fast jets parked on the ground and up close. Those things can go from horizon to horizon in 5 seconds flat. They also disappear and all I see is that spray line advancing across the sky. |
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If on the other hand if the weather changes every one of them will leave a contrail. And if things line up just right all the contrails will linger and form clouds. FYI, there is an average of 7,000 aircraft in the air over the US at all times. That's average so during the peak times its going to be much higher. Oh yeah there are several websites which will let you see where and how many aircraft are over you at any time. Google is your friend. |
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Do you think they were doing this chemtrail stuff during WWII? Pictures from that era. http://img5.tgdaily.com/sites/defaul..._contrails.jpg Notice in this picture the higher flying aircraft are producing huge long lasting contrails while the lower flying ones are producing none. Different air temps and moisture levels mean aircraft at different altitudes almost always produce different contrails. http://contrailscience.com/wp-conten...-contrails.jpg Notice in this one how the contrail from a piston powered bomber is lingering and forming into clouds. Again what happens after the moisture is placed in the air depends on what's already in the air. Something else to think about. How big would this have to be? How many people would have to be involved? Do you REALLY think that something this big could be kept completely and totally secret for decades? Occam's razor. |
Contrails in this area are always more prominent this time of year as the humidity levels increase.
Also early Spring is when NOAA still broadcasts various colors of clover seed to provide jet stream based data for various research projects and early season nitrogen enhancement for the soil. Environmental condition condensation trails and the pattern flight paths of NOAA jet stream plotting projects during the early Spring have combined since the early 1960s to fuel various conspiracy theories despite published reports on a large portion of the studies available to the public each year. Sure some of the jet stream , meteorological and environmental data is used in military studies however it is just as well used in NASA and government agricultural data research. |
One day I was following along behind a pickup truck with a camper shell on it. Every mile of so, the driver would get out and bang on the side with his fists. Finally he pulled into a gas station, so I followed him in; I was curious as to the reason he got and was beating on the side. His answer: "Oh, I've got a ton of canaries inside, and since this is only a half ton truck, I have to keep half of them in the air at all times..."
Well, with 87,000 airplane flights a day in the U.S. and 5,000 in the air at any given time, I think you're gonna get, ...as Roy Rogers put it, "Happy trails to you...." :) http://sos.noaa.gov/Datasets/dataset.php?id=44 geo |
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Google is not my friend, by the way ;) but I'm not coming from a place of wild guesses and out of control paranoia. I have posted the patents. |
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There has been talk of seeding the high atmosphere to attempt to mitigate global warming. Could also be military or other training flights I suppose. |
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Has anyone tried using science to prove this? I'd think some smart person out there could use a spectral analysis of sunlight passing through the trails to determine the chemical compound. Or you could have a private pilot take air samples and have them analyzed. Heck just flying an aircraft through them and doing a analysis of any chemicals on the surface would be better than nothing. Is there anything like this to provide any evidence? If not I must say again; Occam's razor. |
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Just to prove I can, I agree with watcher. No really, I do! |
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Operation mockingbird Manhattan project Tuskegee Cointelpro Cia drug running |
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Keep in mind that at this time of year owing to the past winter weather just experienced that the atmosphere over all of North America is still loaded with invisible ice crystals. They contribute to forming massive contrails in the sky with the passage of any type of jet and linger for a very long time as they spread out into blanketing clouds before dispersing. That gives the appearance of a halo or rainbow-like oil slick around the sun due to sunlight refraction on the atmospheric ice crystals. Ice crystals are present in the atmosphere at all times of year but are more noticeable in contrails at this time of year because the atmosphere in the northern hemisphere is still freezing and there is more of them. |
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There are a lot of small ops which may never come to light but something this size could never be kept quite for years much less decades. |
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Ill give you credit for not still believing those govt coverups. Do you still believe your phone conversations are private? |
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http://www.weathermodification.com/ http://asicolorado.com/weathermod.html There are researchers who have taken samples from various sources. The consensus seems to point to aluminum oxides, barium and polymers. |
"The Manhattan-Rochester Coalition, research on the health effects of radioactive materials, and tests on vulnerable populations without consent in St. Louis, 1945--1970
This piece analyzes a covert Manhattan Project spin-off organization referred to here as the Manhattan-Rochester Coalition, and an obscure aerosol study in St. Louis, Missouri, conducted under contract by the U.S. military from 1953–1954, and 1963–1965. The military-sponsored studies targeted a segregated, high-density urban area, where low-income persons of color predominantly resided..." http://gradworks.umi.com/35/15/3515886.html |
Some people will ultimately believe what they wish, even when faced with undeniable proof.
Chemtrail conspiracy theories are easy enough to debunk. There is tons of evidence to prove the normalcy of all of the claims of oddness. Here is a pretty good site. http://contrailscience.com/ |
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