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03/17/15, 05:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Eastern Saskatchewan
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Originally Posted by wr
Yes, I did mean less hands is better, unfortunately I was using my iphone and occasionally, autocorrect thinks it's smarter than I am 
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wr. You need to take your own advice. When you are using your phone, you gotta use LESS fingers! lol.
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03/17/15, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York bordering Ontario
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If you are too clean you don't challenge your immune system enough. Everyone says "clean, clean, clean" but you need a certain amount of bacteria around to keep you immune system in shape so that it responds correctly when you get into something that actually is bad for you.
I'm concerned about store bought chicken, and store bought ground meat, other than that if it's raised at home I'm not so worried about it. So I always clean things those raw meats touched.
I am also scrupulous about cleaning when I have guests, because the bacteria that is native to my house could make them sick. When I am alone, I don't worry so much about keeping the counter perfect.
It's really all about common sense.
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03/17/15, 08:23 PM
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Location: Alberta, Canada
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wr. You need to take your own advice. When you are using your phone, you gotta use LESS fingers! lol.
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Less fingers, more glasses and probably a little less technology
I think I'm having one of 'those' weeks. Thus far, I deleted an invoice I needed, double billed a client, picked up the mail and threw the mail I picked up in the mail box with the invoices and it's only Tuesday.
On a more positive note, I didn't have the deposit book with me anyhow so when I pick up mail up again tomorrow, I can take the cheques I received today to the bank tomorrow.
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03/18/15, 12:14 PM
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As with most things today people are taking food safety to extremes. In the past you'd put the left over fried chicken in a bowl and put a clean dish towel over it and set it on the table til bedtime. When you wanted some you got it. No one in our house ever got sick from it.
Sure you didn't come in from the barn or outhouse and grab a chicken leg w/o washing up but the thought of not eating or throwing it away just because it had been sitting on the table for hours would have gotten you some strange looks.
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03/18/15, 06:00 PM
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Some foods just lend themselves to developing harmful to human bacteria more than others. I think taking extra care with chicken and ground beef would go a long way in reducing cases of food poisoning. So many people fail to cook these meats to the correct internal temperature and call it good when it's really not. I know it's difficult to get meals on the table in a timely fashion but it's never a good enough excuse for under cooking the meat.
The other big dirty is the produce sold in grocery stores. As much as possible the skins need to be washed with a mild dishwashing liquid and even peeled before preparation for eating.
I use the freezer to store food but freezing doesn't kill the bacteria, only heat does that. Another food I get real touchy about is eggs. If they're past date or develop small cracks they get pitched. Same for milk. I don't try to freeze it and thaw for later.
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03/19/15, 04:55 AM
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My aunt, who is gone now, used to say, "I always wash my chicken from the store in dish soap and lukewarm water." She gave me a dumb look when I asked her, "Did you wash it behind the ears?"
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03/19/15, 07:20 PM
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Location: Alberta Canada
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Soulsurvivor what is this past date on eggs you're talking about?
My fresh farm eggs don't have any due dates, and any cracked ones, or ones that are too soiled get fed back to the chickens, or the cats and dog.
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03/19/15, 07:44 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Michigan
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This topic is so all about the book I have been reading.
If you care what you put into your body I really would suggest you go to Amazon and get a copy of The Food Babe Way by Vani Hari.
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03/19/15, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Texas Panhandle
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Originally Posted by watcher
As with most things today people are taking food safety to extremes. In the past you'd put the left over fried chicken in a bowl and put a clean dish towel over it and set it on the table til bedtime. When you wanted some you got it. No one in our house ever got sick from it.
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LOL. I remember back when we used to go to my grandparents' house for Thanksgiving. All the extended family went yearly as an informal family reunion, so there were dozens of people. We'd have Thanksgiving lunch, and then all the food (and there was always LOTS of it) would be placed on the dining room table, and a bed sheet would be placed over all. The food set out all day long, and we'd always just run in and grab something when we wanted a snack.
It's a wonder any of us are still alive  .
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03/19/15, 07:52 PM
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I havent heard of anyone getting sick much less dying from a little sweat.
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The jury's still out, but some medical researchers think Hepatitis B could be transmitted by sweat. That's no picnic.
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03/20/15, 09:27 AM
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I can't count up how many times I've been at parties when I was younger where we ordered pizza for the party and then ate the leftover pizza out of the box on the counter the next morning for breakfast. Still do it to this day, leftover cold pizza is a favorite of mine.
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03/20/15, 09:50 AM
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Born in the wrong Century
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Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Truckinguy
I can't count up how many times I've been at parties when I was younger where we ordered pizza for the party and then ate the leftover pizza out of the box on the counter the next morning for breakfast. Still do it to this day, leftover cold pizza is a favorite of mine. 
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03/21/15, 07:30 AM
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Location: PA
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The reason you all have issues with food borne illness is the consumption of plant material. Eat meat and not fruit and avoid stomach bugs all together. Your stomach ph when digesting meat is 1-3 your stomach ph when pushing veggies thru is 5-6. Meat and fat leaves the stomach as a low ph liquid. Veggies leave the stomach intact and undigested.
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03/23/15, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MN
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Originally Posted by cws451
I have watched a couple documentary on netflix about large commericial farms and it is disturbing what is done with the food we eat.
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Doesn't much matter what a farmer does tho.
Its the middle men.
For raw fruits and veggies, its about the people handling the produce, the pickers and packers, do they wash their hands between wiping their rears?
For any sort of processed food, again is it cooked to proper temp all the way through, are the people handling the food wearing clean gloves and sanitizing everything?
For restaurant food same deal, people keeping the bathroom separate from the kitchen?
In any case the farm itself plays no real role, its all how the food is handled from the farm to the plate.
Home producers or very small farmers market type sales are so low volume that outbreaks aren't really noticed or reported, so no one realizes that most bad food class actually come from them.
If 10 people get sick from one brand of national lettuce, it makes national news and recalls and lawsuits. Although 10,000 people ate the same let ice and was only 10 people getting sick.
If 30 random people get sick and they can't find any connection, there is no lawsuit, or recall, or fuss about the 50 farmers market locations across the country that caused those 30 illnesses. Its just chalked up to randomness. A free pass to the small retailer because it is too small to catch and pinpoint the outbreak.
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03/23/15, 07:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MN
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Originally Posted by Rustaholic
This topic is so all about the book I have been reading.
If you care what you put into your body I really would suggest you go to Amazon and get a copy of The Food Babe Way by Vani Hari.
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No. Just no.
That gal is all about herself, she makes up the junk she says, she is full of it.
Just no.
Be organic, be farmers market, buy local, its all fine.
Just don't trust a single word that liar has to say! Sheez. Its all about the dollars she can steal from you.
Stay away from her ilk.
Paul
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03/23/15, 07:24 AM
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You got that right. She uses her TV-friendly looks to get undue attention. “She gets on all these talk shows partly because she is easier to look at,” says Joe Schwarcz, who runs the Office for Science & Society, a department at McGill University in Montreal dedicated to identifying pseudoscience. “Her scientific background is nonexistent.”
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