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Old 02/15/15, 02:51 PM
 
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Of course there is always Redneck Shed Wiring - a $20 15A outdoor extension cord and maybe an old box with some fuses and a plug-in to go into your cord (if'n you want'a get fancy).
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Old 02/15/15, 04:01 PM
 
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When I have to dig a ditch I always hook up the middle buster to the tractor. Can get it almost 2' deep that way.
That works good Me I just fire up the backhoe
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That works good Me I just fire up the backhoe
Well, it works good in sandy soil like mine anyway. I have been thinking about getting a backhoe attachment but I heard they can crack the frame. Have you heard this? I own a Mahindra 35 horse.
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Where I live we have no zoning, permits, etc. We do whatever we feel like.

That being said, I want it safe first of all, and secondly I want it trouble free forever.

I would bury it. Put it in conduit, and I always go with the next higer gague wire required. Never know when you want to add something more and it sure if nice to have the extra capacity.

I generally go rent a trencher. Little over $100 a day. Dig it in deep. Erosion happens, and if it gets muddy, a modern tractor can cut a real deep rut.

I would dig it 2' minimum. But here frost line is 3' or therebouts. I just go ahead and dig stuff deep.

And unless you know 110% for certain, call the "dig rite" folks and have any existing underground lines marked.

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Old 02/16/15, 06:33 PM
 
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Well, it works good in sandy soil like mine anyway. I have been thinking about getting a backhoe attachment but I heard they can crack the frame. Have you heard this? I own a Mahindra 35 horse.
Can't see how it could as it just hooks on the three point hitch ,thus it floats . The attachment has it's own out riggers to stabilize it .I have mine on a 4000 Ford works great for me .
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I may give it a try Jim. I really need one anyway.


Sorry about the slight highjack
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Can't see how it could as it just hooks on the three point hitch ,thus it floats . The attachment has it's own out riggers to stabilize it .I have mine on a 4000 Ford works great for me .
Modern compact tractors are a little weak in the middle, about where your feet are when you sit on them. Don't have to be all that strong there.

Except, for a backhoe......

The outriggers hold the hoe up, but when you dig there is a real force put on the middle of the tractor, then you hook a rock or something and spike the force..... Snap. The casting in the middle of the tractor cracks....

It puts pressure right in the wrong place.

Some tractors are bad about it, some no big deal. Some companies have an extra frame - just braces that bolt the back of the tractor to the front side rails, make that spot a little stronger.

I donno about the tractor being mentioned, I'm just saying that's the concern with some models, ESP the real small tractors with a bit of a too big backhoe.....

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If we do a trench, we just have the boys from the detention center over to do it for us. It won't be quite straight...and we'll have to make sure it gets deep enough BUT...they work for several gallons of ice cream and dozens of cookies. We feed them once a month anyway...might as well get some work out of them. 15 boys....100 ft....won't take them too long.
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If we do a trench, we just have the boys from the detention center over to do it for us. It won't be quite straight...and we'll have to make sure it gets deep enough BUT...they work for several gallons of ice cream and dozens of cookies. We feed them once a month anyway...might as well get some work out of them. 15 boys....100 ft....won't take them too long.
I always say if it is deep enough the lawn mower don't cut the wire it is deep enough
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Modern compact tractors are a little weak in the middle, about where your feet are when you sit on them. Don't have to be all that strong there.

Except, for a backhoe......

The outriggers hold the hoe up, but when you dig there is a real force put on the middle of the tractor, then you hook a rock or something and spike the force..... Snap. The casting in the middle of the tractor cracks....

It puts pressure right in the wrong place.

Some tractors are bad about it, some no big deal. Some companies have an extra frame - just braces that bolt the back of the tractor to the front side rails, make that spot a little stronger.



I donno about the tractor being mentioned, I'm just saying that's the concern with some models, ESP the real small tractors with a bit of a too big backhoe.....

Paul
Mines a Mahindra 3510. I can find nothing definite about it but don't want to risk it when I can rent one if I need one really bad.
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If it is only 50' there should be no reason what so ever for a "splice" in that short a run.
Code might say 2' deep, but for an uninspected deal like this keep it at least one foot deep. Conduit is well worth it.
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