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Old 02/05/15, 11:45 AM
 
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I have had goats for several years and I looking forward to my Jersey heifer producing.

Rose the heifer is easy to fence. One strand of electric tape and step in posts. Goats are a chore to pasture fence. They would get out with 7 strands of wire alternating + / - with a 8 joule charger, yeah a 50 mile one for a 2 acre paddock. They can also clear a five foot fence. If you really need to keep them in plan on solid boards or 60" box wire. Tho, making a paddock like this is very expensive so it will likely be cheaper to just feed them and keep them in a barn.

Goat milk tastes like goat after a few days in the fridge. It is the nature of goat milk. AKA a feature. See goat milk proteins break down easy. This break down is what makes it easy to digest... It also means it will taste like a a wet goat.

You will need a cream separator if you like wet goat flavor butter, wet goat flavor cheese, and wet goat flavor whipped cream.

Please note that some people aren't sensitive to the goat flavor or call it a feature. But it's there after a few days regardless of what you do.
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Old 02/05/15, 12:05 PM
 
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wE MILKED GOATS HERE 30YRS AGO. if ONE PUTS THEIR MILK BUCKET IN THE FREEZER, AND THEN AT THE NEXT MILKING, TAKES IT OUT AND MILKS THE GOAT WITH IT, AND EITHER HAS ONE OF THOSE CHEAP APT FRIDGES IN THE BARN or A APT FREEZER, (I HAVE BOTH), AND EITHER TAKES THE MILK DIRECTLY TO THE HOUSE` oPPS SORRY BOUT THE CAPS. and puts it into another bucket that the bucket you milked in was setting in, and lets it sit for an hour, Its FINE for drinking. We milked 5 goats, and never had any left over, for 4 people. Course, we never got a gal a goat either.
Point is, You take care of the milk by keeping it as cool/cold as soon as it is out of the goat, for as long as possible till drunk, AND, If its nubian, by MY experience only, The milk will taste FINE.
As I sad earlier. Ive had goats here twice, and wont have any here again.
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Old 02/05/15, 12:26 PM
 
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wE MILKED GOATS HERE 30YRS AGO. if ONE PUTS THEIR MILK BUCKET IN THE FREEZER, AND THEN AT THE NEXT MILKING, TAKES IT OUT AND MILKS THE GOAT WITH IT, AND EITHER HAS ONE OF THOSE CHEAP APT FRIDGES IN THE BARN or A APT FREEZER, (I HAVE BOTH), AND EITHER TAKES THE MILK DIRECTLY TO THE HOUSE` oPPS SORRY BOUT THE CAPS. and puts it into another bucket that the bucket you milked in was setting in, and lets it sit for an hour, Its FINE for drinking. We milked 5 goats, and never had any left over, for 4 people. Course, we never got a gal a goat either.
Point is, You take care of the milk by keeping it as cool/cold as soon as it is out of the goat, for as long as possible till drunk, AND, If its nubian, by MY experience only, The milk will taste FINE.
As I sad earlier. Ive had goats here twice, and wont have any here again.

Note I said goat milk older than a few days. Fresh goat milk is good tasting with proper sanitation.
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Old 02/05/15, 12:48 PM
 
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Note I said (and never had any left over) and so that's ALL im going on.

I suppose we could both be right.
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Old 02/05/15, 02:14 PM
 
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We used to have Alpines and two day old milk was just as good as fresh. We didn't chill any milk pails either.
I want a couple gallons per day but more would be wonderful.
If I can find Alpines now that will do that for me I would love to buy them.
It was never my experience that they were the best milk producers but I really loved the goats. Saanens or Nubians were the best back when we had the Alpines.
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Old 02/05/15, 02:53 PM
 
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Rusty, you wernt in Okla in the summertime. Mich has never had 115o temps. We usta get them each year.
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Old 02/05/15, 05:26 PM
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Sue, ya sayin that goats and mules are way smarter than horses and cows, and the people who tend them? Well, if so, I cant argue the point. Makes you wonder about the qualities of the person who HAS both goats and mules.
I have the mules and used to have goats so I guess I should know the answer to your last line. I don't know other than I've learned how to win most of the time without being pushy about it. Mules especially don't take being pushed around. A lot of horse people don't like the psychology involved with owning mules so call them stubborn. They're not stubborn, it's just that sometimes they know better than the rider and won't be beat into submission like some will do a horse. Our mules have kept us out of trouble on bad trails more than once.

I love cows and horses too so I'm just a sucker for them all!
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Old 02/05/15, 05:29 PM
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Note I said goat milk older than a few days. Fresh goat milk is good tasting with proper sanitation.
The only "bad" goats milk I've had was when bucks were too close to the girls. I think Toggenburg milk tastes kind of odd too.
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Old 02/05/15, 07:29 PM
 
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The only "bad" goats milk I've had was when bucks were too close to the girls. I think Toggenburg milk tastes kind of odd too.
I have heard that.
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Old 02/05/15, 07:44 PM
 
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Rusty, you wernt in Okla in the summertime. Mich has never had 115o temps. We usta get them each year.
I agree. I have seen 103 F. here but never 115 F.
Even at 98 F. we just watch to make sure no goat hair gets in it then take it inside, pour it through cheese cloth then into a bottle in the fridge.

I will never forget some friends stopping by as my sweet wife was taking chocolate chip cookies out of the oven. We had to offer them some so I offered, Cows milk or Goats milk?
He said Goats milk and his wife said it stinks so she wanted Cows milk.
All we had in the fridge was goats milk but they couldn't see what I was taking out of the fridge so I took it out to pour his, mine and my sweet wive's milk then I put it back into the fridge and took it out again to pour her milk.
I made sure I kept that one separate and passed out the milk. He told her the Goats milk was great but she wouldn't taste it. I waited until she was finished with her "Cows" milk then I asked if it was still good. She said it tasted great so then I told her what she had been drinking. Then she said her uncle's goat milk didn't taste like that.
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