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Old 01/01/15, 08:29 PM
 
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Location: North Central MN
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A frost free hydrant will let the water flow out of it even at frigid temps and won't freeze up between waterings. You can install one so it discharges water directly into the stock tank. You will still wind up breaking ice off the stock tank unless you run electricity for a heater or make a solar tank.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects...rHorseTank.htm

The way the frost free hydrant works is that the valve is on the bottom which is buried below the frost line so it never freezes. When you turn the water on it comes up the pipe and out the spigot. The water is warm enough that it won't freeze in the pipe as long as it's running. There is a small hole (see picture) in the bottom of the frost free hydrant's buried pipe. When you turn the water off the water in the pipe drains out the hole, emptying the pipe.

The bottom of the hydrant's pipe and the water supply pipe are buried below the frost line so they never freeze. Hydrants come in different lengths for different climates. Here the frost line is about 5 feet deep. The hydrant has to be long enough that you can bury at least 5 1/2 feet in the ground and still stick up high enough so it can discharge into the stock tank. Put a couple 5 gallon pails of gravel under and around the bottom of the hydrant so the water that seeps out the hole can flow into the ground easily and the hole doesn't get clogged up. The water supply has to be pressurized.

This may explain it even better than I did but I don't have his accent.

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Old 01/01/15, 10:01 PM
 
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Location: Oklahoma
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I have a few of those "pocket hoses" that expand when you turn the water on. They are really light and empty easily. They are 50' long (expanded) but shrivel up to very little when empty. I use 'em then disconnect them, throw them in a 5 gallon bucket and put that in the garage. A LOT easier than carrying pails of water when the regular hoses are frozen

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Old 01/02/15, 05:43 AM
 
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A temporary fix might be to leave the hose outside all the time, but drape it over T-posts so that the lowest point is where each coupler is. Then get Y-valve couplers and put them at the joints--on the lowest points, of course, so you can open the extra valves to let the hose drain by gravity when you're done. They should drain okay without freezing up......

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Old 01/03/15, 01:43 PM
 
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Location: MN
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I'm still confused by the question, tho it appears you got answers that work for you.

1. You have a well, 22 feet deep. (How big around is the well pipe, 2 inch, 4 inch, ??)

2. An electric pump froze, so you have no pump/ no water pressure now? (Was this well set up just for your barn, not for the house you still have a well over by the house?)

3. You no longer have electricity to the well area?

Is this what you are saying?

The 'frost free hydrant' is an on/off valve, it is not in any way a water pump. It is exactly what you want if you have pressurized water and a water line buried below frost depth to where you want the hydrant. One very, very important thing with these is that they either need water to be flowing through them, or they need to be open to the air so that the water in the pipe can drain back down. They -cannot- have a hose attached, turned on or off, and let water stand in them. That will freeze them up solid. They must be allowed to drain out when not in use.

If you are trying to pull water out of your 22 foot deep well, you would need a hand well pump with a piston rod and the actual piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. They kinda look like a hydrant, but a much bigger handle and they have a piston pump at the bottom.

Like these, there are other brands:

http://bisonpumps.com

This pump would need to sit directly on top of your well.

There are also solar models available, tho if you have electricity anywhere near a submersible pump would end up an easier choice. I suspect you used an electric pump that was up on the surface, and it froze and busted when it got cold. You should have had a submersible, the whole pump is down at the bottom.

You would not want a 'pitcher hand pump' as they only got about 15 feet and require priming, not suited for you.

So, I think you are asking for a 'hand piston water pump' but if you still have electric there a low power 'submersible electric water pump' would replace what you had without the freezing issues.

Really helps to describe what you have, there are so many types of wells, and so many types of pumps, we all are guessing what you have and where you want to get to...... If you don't know what to call things, go slow and let us help you, but really good to know what it is you have so as to know the best 'bang for the buck' direction to go.....

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Old 01/03/15, 02:44 PM
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It's threads like this one that keep me lurking here from time to time. The knowledge I gain from this site is amazing. Thanks to all that contributed.
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Old 01/03/15, 04:47 PM
 
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Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
we have a well right by the horses water but ran a temp power then winter hit so it froze up our pump we never replaced it so i have been using a water hose and putting it back in the well house about a 100 yards away i cant keeping doing this
its the picture gravytrain posted that i am thinking of
Dorothea We really do need to know more about that well you have.
My guess is it was a shallow well pump that froze and broke.
Can you tell us what size the well pipe is?
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Old 01/04/15, 01:02 AM
 
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Those pocket hoses are great light weight and the shrivel up....six fifty footers..

12.99 Amazon shipped to your home cause be in use in five days....problem solved for 100 dollars.
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Old 01/04/15, 12:34 PM
 
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It sounds to me that what she wants is a submersable pump with a drain hole just above it and a on/off switch at the point of use.

That way you get unfrozen lines AND water you dont have to manually pump or carry. Otherwise just a old fashioned pump with the pump chamber IN the well.
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