I Feel Sorry For My Neighbors

7thswan · #81 12/20/14, 07:55 AM

BR. I agree with you. Sometimes there is Not 2 sides to a story.example-----
Man walks in and robs Bank. Now tell me what are the 2 sides to that story.

cab · #82 12/20/14, 08:54 AM

His kid is dying and in need of an operation he can't afford.

7thswan · #83 12/20/14, 09:30 AM

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His kid is dying and in need of an operation he can't afford.

Still dosen't make it right, and the bank did nothing wrong.

arabian knight · #84 12/20/14, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Possum Belly

There are usually two sides to a story. We only get to hear one.
From a history of posting here, it sure seems like a lots of trouble or disagreements with different neighbors, church leaders, and family to me. I am not saying that BRP is not telling the truth, but before I pass any sort of judgement, I would like to hear both sides of the matter (s).

Yes there are always two sides. Nobody is calling anybody a lair either. Just that getting only one side does not give the whole picture no matter how many pics are posted what is their side of things on this?

wr · #85 12/20/14, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by itsb

NO we don't need anty more LAWS,I have lived in the sticks of mo. my whole life, WHY do outsiders feel the need to move into my area and want to change it to the way it was where they came from ?

BRP,I do understand what you are going through ! It is your property ! some others my think you should GIVE the ----- neighbors your property, Well I say stand your ground and don't give in.

The New way of life

lets all give away our rights IF its in the name of

safty

hurts some ones feelings

or just the way we feel today

I don't believe anyone said that anyone should give land to anybody and if you read the letter sent by the lawyer, the neighbours did not ask to be given anything either. They made an offer to purchase or as an option an offer for a legal easement with compensation.

In either case, the offers were rejected. Until this had been disclosed, the offer letter had always been explained as the neighbours hiring a lawyer to force BRP to give away land. He was well within his rights to refuse.

The previous owner who sold the land misled the new owners about access or they may have had access to the disputed drive that they thought would be granted to the new owners. In either case, it would be interesting to hear why they feel things went wrong.

cab · #86 12/20/14, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

Still dosen't make it right, and the bank did nothing wrong.

Who said it had to be "right"?

Seems many thought the depression era bank robbers were like Robin Hood and they rose to the level of folk heroes among many....

There are always two sides....right and wrong depend on which side of the fence you are on....the truth is usually in the middle...

7thswan · #87 12/20/14, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cab

Who said it had to be "right"?

Seems many thought the depression era bank robbers were like Robin Hood and they rose to the level of folk heroes among many....

There are always two sides....right and wrong depend on which side of the fence you are on....the truth is usually in the middle...

No the truth is not always in the middle.

mekasmom · #88 12/20/14, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Oh I meant to add the Fence and Lights are only on my side. The only side that really has any Forest to look at. Get halfway down the Line he left open. So they can see some trees.

He told us if we wouldn't let him have certain things this is what he would do.

big rockpile

They really don't like you, do they? If it weren't so sad that people are like that it would be funny.

mekasmom · #89 12/20/14, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Ok this is Letter from the Lawyer

You are just going to ignore the letter, aren't you? I would. Let them get a survey. So what? THey will have to pay for the survey, pay to sue you to take down your fence, pay their lawyer, etc. I wouldn't let them bully me around. Ignore their lights. Laugh about how much money they are wasting. And let them whine.

cab · #90 12/20/14, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

No the truth is not always in the middle.

oooh, a moral absolutist!

I guess you have never seen the movie Rashoman.....

Paumon · #91 12/20/14, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mekasmom

You are just going to ignore the letter, aren't you? I would. Let them get a survey. So what? THey will have to pay for the survey, pay to sue you to take down your fence, pay their lawyer, etc. I wouldn't let them bully me around. Ignore their lights. Laugh about how much money they are wasting. And let them whine.

That all happened more than 2 months ago, nearly 3 months ago. He got a lawyer and the situation has already been dealt with, water under the bridge.

#92 12/20/14, 01:14 PM

I may be confused but I thought I remembered BRP saying in a previous thread that he bought this property on a land contract or rent to own type deal . If I'm correct could he even sell off any of the property even if he wanted to ?

7thswan · #93 12/20/14, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cab

oooh, a moral absolutist!

I guess you have never seen the movie Rashoman.....

It meens the truth is BETWEEN the 2 stories. Between can mean 100% to one side and 0 to the other. MIDDLE means 50/50.

||Downhome|| · #94 12/20/14, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

No the truth is not always in the middle.

Your right!

Though a Viking by trade Pillages,Rapes and Robs.

No ill on his part. As long as its not his Village or people.

Tis life.

Now though Those on the Receiving end can find wrong in it all.

Some have a different moral Compass and could never Justify such,under any situation.

You can't expect all to Operate to your Moral standards, Its one thing you just can't delegate,regulate nor legislate.

And in the same respect, You can not expect everyone to expect to Accept your morals.

I will now remind you of a old saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

So again never in the middle, but sometimes we can look and find some compromise if all things are taken in consideration.

cab · #95 12/20/14, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

It meens the truth is BETWEEN the 2 stories. Between can mean 100% to one side and 0 to the other. MIDDLE means 50/50.

And a literalist to boot....

Let me rephrase: the truth is usually somewhere in the middle...

big rockpile · #96 12/21/14, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mekasmom

They really don't like you, do they? If it weren't so sad that people are like that it would be funny.

They have it in their Head I live off Disability and I'm leaching off the Taxpayers, where in truth I've been Retired for last 6 years drawing a very Good Pension.

They have it in their Head I sued my other Neighbor and lost so they thought they could sue me and win, where in truth I did have disagreement with said neighbor, I sold him a small piece of property and shed, cost him far more than it was worth, plus he found easement was right at his Backdoor and other neighbors actually own part of his House, which he promptly removed Survey Marker and conveniently hasn't told them.

They also claim I treat my Wife and Son badly that I'm a Bully with everyone, being the reason they don't want to talk with me.

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Originally Posted by mekasmom

You are just going to ignore the letter, aren't you? I would. Let them get a survey. So what? THey will have to pay for the survey, pay to sue you to take down your fence, pay their lawyer, etc. I wouldn't let them bully me around. Ignore their lights. Laugh about how much money they are wasting. And let them whine.

The Letter came from a Lawyer that we had Retained, case was in my wifes name so he didn't realize we had already Retained him. He was the one that told us to put up the Fence. Once he realized what he had did he told both us he couldn't represent either of us. So we Retained another Lawyer, which just laughed said it was one of the stupidest cases they was trying to sue for, they had no case.

The place had been surveyed twice before, last one less than a year before. I told them their Satellite Dish was put on my property, which they couldn't really see because their Camp Trailer was already setting over the Line, I had to lay down look under the Trailer to see the Dish was over. I showed the Man, he said he had messed up and would have to have it moved. Next thing I know he is having it surveyed again. I told him that was silly the Pins had not moved, he said well it was just money. I told him it was best he moved the Trailer off at this time too.

Then they hired a couple to Mow their Grass, he told them to mow on my property. Because the Mower and Weed Eater were both running yes I had to holler, soon as they shut them off I told them not to be mowing my grass because this is how the last owner had tried to stake claim to my property. They threaten to call the Sheriff on me, I told them go ahead and call the Sheriff I would get them for Trespassing. Then the Guy said he was sorry, he was just doing his Job, I then showed him where the Line was so there was no misunderstanding. After they left is when I put the Fence up.

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Originally Posted by WV Hillbilly

I may be confused but I thought I remembered BRP saying in a previous thread that he bought this property on a land contract or rent to own type deal . If I'm correct could he even sell off any of the property even if he wanted to ?

As I explained to them I have a Lagoon, in State of Missouri a person has to have 3 acres in order to have this type of septic system. If I sold them this property I would have to put in another system.

This is another thing last owners of their property had a Lagoon well on my property, I had them put another System in and fill in the one they had on my property. I was watching the woman on there one day she was picking up rocks from their septic work and throwing them over on my property.

big rockpile

fordy · #97 12/21/14, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

They have it in their Head I live off Disability and I'm leaching off the Taxpayers, where in truth I've been Retired for last 6 years drawing a very Good Pension.

They have it in their Head I sued my other Neighbor and lost so they thought they could sue me and win, where in truth I did have disagreement with said neighbor, I sold him a small piece of property and shed, cost him far more than it was worth, plus he found easement was right at his Backdoor and other neighbors actually own part of his House, which he promptly removed Survey Marker and conveniently hasn't told them.

They also claim I treat my Wife and Son badly that I'm a Bully with everyone, being the reason they don't want to talk with m

The Letter came from a Lawyer that we had Retained, case was in my wifes name so he didn't realize we had already Retained him. He was the one that told us to put up the Fence. Once he realized what he had did he told both us he couldn't represent either of us. So we Retained another Lawyer, which just laughed said it was one of the stupidest cases they was trying to sue for, they had no case.

The place had been surveyed twice before, last one less than a year before. I told them their Satellite Dish was put on my property, which they couldn't really see because their Camp Trailer was already setting over the Line, I had to lay down look under the Trailer to see the Dish was over. I showed the Man, he said he had messed up and would have to have it moved. Next thing I know he is having it surveyed again. I told him that was silly the Pins had not moved, he said well it was just money. I told him it was best he moved the Trailer off at this time too.

Then they hired a couple to Mow their Grass, he told them to mow on my property. Because the Mower and Weed Eater were both running yes I had to holler, soon as they shut them off I told them not to be mowing my grass because this is how the last owner had tried to stake claim to my property. They threaten to call the Sheriff on me, I told them go ahead and call the Sheriff I would get them for Trespassing. Then the Guy said he was sorry, he was just doing his Job, I then showed him where the Line was so there was no misunderstanding. After they left is when I put the Fence up.

As I explained to them I have a Lagoon, in State of Missouri a person has to have 3 acres in order to have this type of septic system. If I sold them this property I would have to put in another system.

This is another thing last owners of their property had a Lagoon well on my property, I had them put another System in and fill in the one they had on my property. I was watching the woman on there one day she was picking up rocks from their septic work and throwing them over on my property.

big rockpile

...............And , that's where you got your 'Screen' name , fordy

wr · #98 12/21/14, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

They have it in their Head I live off Disability and I'm leaching off the Taxpayers, where in truth I've been Retired for last 6 years drawing a very Good Pension.

They have it in their Head I sued my other Neighbor and lost so they thought they could sue me and win, where in truth I did have disagreement with said neighbor, I sold him a small piece of property and shed, cost him far more than it was worth, plus he found easement was right at his Backdoor and other neighbors actually own part of his House, which he promptly removed Survey Marker and conveniently hasn't told them.

They also claim I treat my Wife and Son badly that I'm a Bully with everyone, being the reason they don't want to talk with me.

The Letter came from a Lawyer that we had Retained, case was in my wifes name so he didn't realize we had already Retained him. He was the one that told us to put up the Fence. Once he realized what he had did he told both us he couldn't represent either of us. So we Retained another Lawyer, which just laughed said it was one of the stupidest cases they was trying to sue for, they had no case.

The place had been surveyed twice before, last one less than a year before. I told them their Satellite Dish was put on my property, which they couldn't really see because their Camp Trailer was already setting over the Line, I had to lay down look under the Trailer to see the Dish was over. I showed the Man, he said he had messed up and would have to have it moved. Next thing I know he is having it surveyed again. I told him that was silly the Pins had not moved, he said well it was just money. I told him it was best he moved the Trailer off at this time too.

Then they hired a couple to Mow their Grass, he told them to mow on my property. Because the Mower and Weed Eater were both running yes I had to holler, soon as they shut them off I told them not to be mowing my grass because this is how the last owner had tried to stake claim to my property. They threaten to call the Sheriff on me, I told them go ahead and call the Sheriff I would get them for Trespassing. Then the Guy said he was sorry, he was just doing his Job, I then showed him where the Line was so there was no misunderstanding. After they left is when I put the Fence up.

As I explained to them I have a Lagoon, in State of Missouri a person has to have 3 acres in order to have this type of septic system. If I sold them this property I would have to put in another system.

This is another thing last owners of their property had a Lagoon well on my property, I had them put another System in and fill in the one they had on my property. I was watching the woman on there one day she was picking up rocks from their septic work and throwing them over on my property.

big rockpile

It sounds like a whole bunch of animosity fuelled by gossip and speculation. Do you have any idea who would gossip around town about your finances and personal life?

big rockpile · #99 12/21/14, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wr

It sounds like a whole bunch of animosity fuelled by gossip and speculation. Do you have any idea who would gossip around town about your finances and personal life?

Sure do! Next neighbor over. He is the one that gave them the aerial I posted.

I just don't know how to get him lined out. I stopped had nice chat with him the other day mostly about his wife, she had bad accident, been in Hospital last 4 months.

Does bother me all being said and don't bother me if they know the truth, if they really feel it is their business.

Oh neighbor on other side my wife works for he is in with OHS he had us checked out before we bought, like he said he didn't find anything. Funny before my wife went to work there he was to officially check her out like he said he already knew all about her

big rockpile

motdaugrnds · #**100** 12/22/14, 04:08 AM

This does sound like some irritation on both sides. Seems, Rock, you have stood your grounds and have your boundary sufficiently identified with fencing.

If those lights shine onto your property in a way that causes your family stress, then some fast tall-growing trees should help a lot.

I personally like to respect my neighbors' rights to do with their own property what they want to do...as long as it does not cause problems for my homestead. With this being said, when we moved onto our place, I had a neighbor who tried to take a large chunk of the land we had paid for; so I know there are people who are not as honest as they could be. I had to make it a priority of putting up a fence on that side; and I did so without consulting with him. That was in 1995 and he has respected my fence all these years. (I also have a "security light" that comes on when it gets dark. This light reaches out enough so that it actually gives a little light to the neighbor on the other side of me. Her trailer sits only 30 ft from my boundary line. She has her own security light at the opposite side of her house and has told me she really likes that my light permits her to see her entire back yard well enough to feel safe should anything come up that might frighten her.) I also have a security light that can light up my back acreage with a switch. No one lives across the creek back there...as yet...and should someone ever do so, the trees bordering the creek would stop my light from encroaching on their rights.

Were I in your shoes, Rock, I would let go of any animosity felt, put up some tall trees if want to and let those neighbors live the way they want to live. It sounds like you have a solid legal stand; and that should give some peace of mind.