I Feel Sorry For My Neighbors

big rockpile · #61 12/18/14, 07:53 PM

Oh I meant to add the Fence and Lights are only on my side. The only side that really has any Forest to look at. Get halfway down the Line he left open. So they can see some trees.

He told us if we wouldn't let him have certain things this is what he would do.

big rockpile

big rockpile · #62 12/18/14, 08:10 PM

Paumon maybe you didn't read where they came wanting to buy property that they said I wasn't using so I might as well sell it then when I refused they tried going through a Lawyer to take.

They even went through the trouble of drawing on the paperwork with the Lawyer what additions they were planning on their house letting be known why they needed my property.

Came to the point they couldn't get it legally so they decided to just take it. This is when it came to me putting wire up on the line.

So you would let them have your property to keep trouble down that they I feel brought on their selves. If you would then I sure would like to be your neighbor if you have something you don't use.

Oh as far as going through the cost the Guy told me it was just money and he don't care.

big rockpile

gladetop · #63 12/18/14, 11:50 PM

Go over by the lights and build a nice Gazebo, some picnic tables, bbq pit, Hell take advantage of them paying the light bill for your outdoor entertainment area.

Big Dave · #64 12/19/14, 12:58 AM

BRP you a what a kinda guy. Wish you was my neighbor. The cityot that moved next door to me had one of those lights. He drank a lot also. It sure was a lot of fun when he would get drunk and start shooting his weapons. He put holes in all the neighbors homes. Sheriff came out several times. The fun for me was those light will go off when you shine a q beam on them. HE HE He. They called the power co. They told him they could find nothing wrong. Did I say he he he.They lasted three years. He was cooking out doors on one of those small charcoal grills in January. Wind that night was gusting 30-45 mph. Blew the grill over. It used to be a cedar house. I did not wish ill will toward those folks. They left but the light stayed on for two years till they turned it off.

GeneMO · #65 12/19/14, 02:25 PM

I have two small "house lots" that came out of the front of my farm. My place is 130 acres, and these lots are around 3/4 acres. Both sets of "kids" bug the dickens out of me wanting me to sell them more land.

My take on it is "they knew what they were buying when they bought it" and it aint my problem.

These lots were originally where my dad and I had out houses. I build a new house on another farm, and my dad eventually passed away. I did not sell either of these lots to them, it had gone through another set of owners on each lot.

I dont need the money, I am happy with what I got, and I aint gonna change anything.

Least they leave me alone otherwise and are not bad neighbors.

Gene

GeneMO · #66 12/19/14, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalTrout

I hate a light that can't be turned off with a switch. I understand the idea of not wanting to tell other people how to live their life and what to do on their own property, but I liken poorly placed lights or lights that shine too brightly on my property to be their own sort of vandalism.

All a dusk-to-dawn type light is good for is to light up your place for crooks. Had a Highway patrolman tell us to get rid of all lights. If the place is dark as coal folks aint gonna mess with it, or for that matter notice it. I only want a light that can be turned on from inside the house. And it should be a Halogen or something real bright that casts a beam away from the house. Most "pole lights" light up the inside of your house as well. If a bad guy is messing around outside, I want to light him up like day, while I stand inside the house in the dark with a shotgun.

Gene

Pony · #67 12/19/14, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Paumon

Nobody goes to all that personal expenditure and effort to ensure security and privacy just to spite a neighbour. No neighbour would be important enough nor worth it, especially not brand new neighbours who are strangers and relative nobodies to them.

So there has to be a lot more sensible and more important reasons to it for why they've created a walled up haven of safety and privacy for themselves. Since you're just the neighbour next door and you are a stranger you'll probably never know what their reasons are for wanting their privacy. But I don't think you should feel sorry for them nor should you think they are being spiteful to you because that doesn't make any sense. They are doing what they want to do and it's their personal business and nobody else's business and if it makes them happy then that's all that counts. It's not hurting you.

The fence does you no harm and it ensures that they don't have to look at you and that you can't see them. It probably also helps muffle sounds a bit so they won't hear neighbours talking and doing things in their yards. And you and other neighbours won't hear them so clearly either. That's privacy. It's all good.

That privacy fence is one thing I can really relate to because I know I sure hate having to look at neighbours and the things that they do on and to their properties.

I guess if the security lights on the other side of the privacy fence really bothers you then you can plant tall growing trees close together along the fence so they will grow much, much taller than the fence. That will block the light, and it will provide even more privacy and sound muffling for everyone.

Don't feel sorry or spiteful about your neighbours. Just live and let live.

You didn't see the part where the neighbors were trying to take Rockpile's property by force, did you?

You certainly seem sympathetic to the neighbors who lawyered up when they couldn't have their way.

unregistered41671 · #68 12/19/14, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pony

You didn't see the part where the neighbors were trying to take Rockpile's property by force, did you?

You certainly seem sympathetic to the neighbors who lawyered up when they couldn't have their way.

There are usually two sides to a story. We only get to hear one.
From a history of posting here, it sure seems like a lots of trouble or disagreements with different neighbors, church leaders, and family to me. I am not saying that BRP is not telling the truth, but before I pass any sort of judgement, I would like to hear both sides of the matter (s).

big rockpile · #69 12/19/14, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Possum Belly

There are usually two sides to a story. We only get to hear one.
From a history of posting here, it sure seems like a lots of trouble or disagreements with different neighbors, church leaders, and family to me. I am not saying that BRP is not telling the truth, but before I pass any sort of judgement, I would like to hear both sides of the matter (s).

In other words I'm a liar.

Whatever!

big rockpile

AngieM2 · #70 12/19/14, 06:22 PM

BR - relax some.

Possum Belly was not calling you a liar, but if we heard the facts from the other side of the fence it would be different.

And usually, truth lies between the way side A said, and side B said. And occasionally not a bit like what either of them said. And all of them were saying it the way it happened TO THEM.

So calm down some.

big rockpile · #71 12/19/14, 07:34 PM

Ok this is Letter from the Lawyer we had retained, he was the one that told us to put the Fence up. They went got him to write up this Letter to us, he didn't realize we had already Retained him. So he had to drop out. If you read it seems as though they are Landlocked which they are not. Plus they are saying it is their Drive which it is not. The property they were wanting to buy , they told me they wanted far less for $5K.

I will post aerial that had had drawn where they was wanting to build on to their house reason for needing our property.

big rockpile

big rockpile · #72 12/19/14, 07:40 PM

Arial if you look they have drawn where they was wanting to build on well before they bought their place. Like I said I refused to sell several times. Then they decided to just take it.

Our place is North and West of them. The diagonal Line is what they was wanting off me. They are little Squared off property.

big rockpile

wr · #73 12/19/14, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

In other words I'm a liar.

Whatever!

big rockpile

I definitely wouldn't call you a liar but I do think there have been some misunderstandings on both sides with some external influence to increase drama.

Usually when tall fences are erected, it's because someone feels the need to keep somebody or something out. Maybe your dogs have been in their yard, maybe they aren't comfortable chatting with you after you declined their offer or maybe they misunderstood something said and felt you had threatened them in some way or maybe they read on HT that good fences make good neighbours.

It is difficult to know their reasons but right now, all we know is that you don't agree with their fence or their offer. Maybe you're just not the kinda guy that enjoys people living that close.

Are these the same neighbours that your wife works with?

wr · #74 12/19/14, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Arial if you look they have drawn where they was wanting to build on well before they bought their place. Like I said I refused to sell several times. Then they decided to just take it.

Our place is North and West of them. The diagonal Line is what they was wanting off me. They are little Squared off property.

big rockpile

The letter has nothing to do with Option A. It addresses a matter of a fence in the drive the previous owner had allowed them to use.

When did you purchase the land and where was the fence you erected?

Do you own the quarter section and they jus have an create cut out of that and is that actually how far apart the houses are?

big rockpile · #75 12/19/14, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wr

I definitely wouldn't call you a liar but I do think there have been some misunderstandings on both sides with some external influence to increase drama.

Usually when tall fences are erected, it's because someone feels the need to keep somebody or something out. Maybe your dogs have been in their yard, maybe they aren't comfortable chatting with you after you declined their offer or maybe they misunderstood something said and felt you had threatened them in some way or maybe they read on HT that good fences make good neighbours.

It is difficult to know their reasons but right now, all we know is that you don't agree with their fence or their offer. Maybe you're just not the kinda guy that enjoys people living that close.

Are these the same neighbours that your wife works with?

I don't care on the Fence it increased Value of my property. They put it up out of spite. I know just hear say but the Guy said because I wouldn't sell him any property he had plenty of money and was going to make an example of me.

My Dogs are always in my Back Yard. I have only visited with them one time and that was right after they moved in I offered them help if needed and Fresh Eggs.

I actually took down the Fence and received said Letter next day. I put the fence back up that day.

All I have to offer that I have in writing is what I posted.

No it is not the neighbor my wife works for.

And no I do not like people taking what I have paid for, they try they have a fight on their hands. This Marine does not back down.

big rockpile

big rockpile · #76 12/19/14, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wr

The letter has nothing to do with Option A. It addresses a matter of a fence in the drive the previous owner had allowed them to use.

When did you purchase the land and where was the fence you erected?

Do you own the quarter section and they jus have an create cut out of that and is that actually how far apart the houses are?

The Fence is where the x's are on the Line. They bought after I had bought my place if you read the letter they state they know they have no easement. I put up the fence actually North and West of them when they decided to use my property and I told them no and they threaten to call the Sheriff. I told them to go ahead and I told them I would get them for Trespassing. Then I showed them again where the Survey Markers were after property had been Surveyed for the third time.

If you look just to the NW of the drawn corner there is a Dark spot that is our House, the lighter roof Building NE of that is our Garage. The Aerial is showing it over the line it is not, actual Survey showed this.

Our House is about 70 feet from theirs.

big rockpile

wr · #77 12/19/14, 08:43 PM

Ultimately, the whole mess is over access they feel the previous owner had allowed.

I don't see where they tried to take or steal from you but did make an offer. At that time you had the option to reject it or counter their offer. You opted to reject it.

The two houses seem a fair distance apart so I can't imagine their lights should bother you and it's likely best to simply not worry about it. You seem to get along just fine without their friendship and they're probably not going to drop by for coffee.

big rockpile · #78 12/19/14, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wr

Ultimately, the whole mess is over access they feel the previous owner had allowed.

I don't see where they tried to take or steal from you but did make an offer. At that time you had the option to reject it or counter their offer. You opted to reject it.

The two houses seem a fair distance apart so I can't imagine their lights should bother you and it's likely best to simply not worry about it. You seem to get along just fine without their friendship and they're probably not going to drop by for coffee.

Ok I was going to say more not losing sleep over Fence or Lights. Just sad they decided to live this way. Me and my wife has both worked in Prisons and this just seems like the outside of one.

My wife said the other day the neighbors I hate were down. I corrected her that I don't hate them I feel sorry for them.

big rockpile

watcher · #79 12/19/14, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Oh they are doing this out and spite no dought. If I wanted to do out of spite I could get Hogs and Goats but I'm not this way.

big rockpile

Or you could just walk around wearing nothing but a European style speedo.

itsb · #80 12/20/14, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ||Downhome||

Just as there are zoning laws to limit stuff in the yard and building codes there should be country styled laws to preserve the Nature of the Country.

NO we don't need anty more LAWS,I have lived in the sticks of mo. my whole life, WHY do outsiders feel the need to move into my area and want to change it to the way it was where they came from ?

BRP,I do understand what you are going through ! It is your property ! some others my think you should GIVE the ----- neighbors your property, Well I say stand your ground and don't give in.

The New way of life
lets all give away our rights IF its in the name of
safty
hurts some ones feelings
or just the way we feel today