How can I keep people from hunting next to our house?

tlrnnp67 · #81 10/27/14, 05:57 PM

The other thing to consider is if he or someone he brings with him gets hurt while cutting through your property, I guarantee they will go after YOUR homeowner's insurance to pay for damages.

big rockpile · #82 10/27/14, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

That looks like a shooting gallery.

Hunters pop up and the deer have to hit a hunter before the hunter ducks down again. Like something at the fair!

Is what it is

How can I keep people from hunting next to our house? - Homesteading Questions

big rockpile

JoePa · #83 10/27/14, 06:20 PM

Don't listen to all the people telling you to find out who the owner is - no purpose in doing that - find out the legal distance and that's it - if its too close then just call the game commission - if it legal then mind your own business - maybe you don't like hunting but a lot of people do - so let it alone - every time you get on the highway you are a thousand times more likely to get killed than by a stray bullet - come on - give me a break -

People don't realize the good hunters do - if it was not for them keeping the deer population in check we would be up to our --- in deer - they can quickly become a pest and eat everything you are trying to grow - where I live the first day of deer season sounds like a war is going on - I like that -

SkizzlePig · #84 10/27/14, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DEKE01

Alabama hunting law: prohibited-methods-of-hunting/

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Prohibited hunting:

Hunt within 100 yards of any dwelling without the permission of the owner or lessee or discharge a firearm while -hunting so that any projectile strikes any dwelling or building used for human occupation, or any commercial vessel, without the permission of the owner or lessee. This does not apply to a landowner or member of his/her immediate family hunting on his/her own property -provided that no projectile strikes the above property of another without the -permission of the owner or lessee.

Hunt or discharge a firearm from, upon or across any public road or railroad, or the right-of-way of any public road or railroad. You may not hunt or discharge a firearm within 50 yards of the right-of-way of any public road, highway, or railroad with a centerfire rifle, a shotgun using slugs or shot larger than number four (4) shot or a muzzle loading rifle .40 or larger.
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... based on this, I'd let the guy start construction on his shooting house. Hopefully, he's pouring a concrete foundation and making some permanency. Then ... once he's done expending his effort, time and treasure, drop this doosy on him. He won't have the money to build again and he certainly wouldn't move it.

I mean who in their right mind would be so selfish as to construct active shooting lanes THAT close to a residence for people or livestock. This guy's a knucklehead. Let him bleed his pockets dry, then remove his ability to use it.

My two cents ...

**highlands** · #85 10/27/14, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JoePa

every time you get on the highway you are a thousand times more likely to get killed than by a stray bullet - come on - give me a break

That is a lame red herring argument that people like to trot out to justify things they want. Totally irrelevant.

kycountry · #86 10/27/14, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

That is a lame red herring argument that people like to trot out to justify things they want. Totally irrelevant.

O.K. so you are twice as likely to be killed by a hunter than being killed by lightning... IF you are a hunter... There is only 100 people on average that is killed by hunters in the U.S and Canada combined, 90% are other hunters activly hunting when shot....

So if you don't hunt, you are 5 times more likely to be killed by lightning than by a hunter.. so there goes dancing in the rain

Is that relevant?? or would you like 30 more examples???

I can include references if you'd like, but I thought your search might educate you on the actual realities of hunting...

arabian knight · #87 10/27/14, 10:25 PM

Ya hunting is really really a safe sport. Maybe one a year in WI sometimes 2 but that is it. Most that do have a death happen is more likely to be one that is not in shape having a heart attack falling out of a tree stand things like that but this getting shot and killed by a stray shot coming across the Hiway is way out there in the realm of fiction. Sure it may happen but it sure is not up there in anybody's thought process to worry about. IN WI near 650,000 deer hinters in the woods. We have just under 2 million deer population in the last guess ta ment.

gilberte · #88 10/28/14, 05:49 AM

Guns make too much noise and scare people. I like to hunt with my bow, people don't even know I'm around unless they happen to see me.

**highlands** · #89 10/28/14, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kycountry

O.K. so you are twice as likely to be killed by a hunter than being killed by lightning

Completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter how likely something is compared with something else. It's a red herring argument. Completely lame. Focus on the real issues.

kycountry · #90 10/28/14, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by highlands

Completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter how likely something is compared with something else. It's a red herring argument. Completely lame. Focus on the real issues.

I am focusing on the real issue... The issue is most people see a hunter with a gun and automatically think they are going to be shot. The fact is, they are just uninformed on how often this really happens.

In my opinion, the only lame thing going on is trying to justify the fears of being shot without researching the FACTS before people post..

Molly Mckee · #91 10/28/14, 09:35 AM

No, the problem is this guy is a jerk that threatened the op. Good hunters don't hunt on small lots, close to houses, are not too lazy to walk in, are polite when they ask for access. If you don't see the difference, you may be part of the problem.

We posted our land after several bad hunters showed up. Then a polite bow hunter stopped me and asked if I knew how he could get back to a school section of land. He was so nice that I said he could use our logging road. He said that wasn't right if we had agreed not to allow hunting. I told him he was welcome to call my DH, if he needed access.

kycountry · #92 10/28/14, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Molly Mckee

No, the problem is this guy is a jerk that threatened the op. Good hunters don't hunt on small lots, close to houses, are not too lazy to walk in, are polite when they ask for access. If you don't see the difference, you may be part of the problem.

We posted our land after several bad hunters showed up. Then a polite bow hunter stopped me and asked if I knew how he could get back to a school section of land. He was so nice that I said he could use our logging road. He said that wasn't right if we had agreed not to allow hunting. I told him he was welcome to call my DH, if he needed access.

I have expressed my opinion more than once on this..

IF he acted in the way OP has stated without being provoked, By all means necessary, do not allow him access to the OP's land and politely express the concerns to the land owner. If the owner has an ounce of decency, that guy wont be hunting that land..

If it was provoked, I still don't like how this guy handled it, but could see where a conversation could be misleading on both sides in this situation.

I am in no way condoning this guys actions!

I am simply stating that the OP's fears of a stray bullet hitting them is very unlikely and is being overstated in this conversation.. You are more likely to be ran over by a train after getting hit by a bus than being hit with a stray bullet.

JoePa · #93 10/28/14, 10:30 AM

hawgsquatch - you can't be serious - " legal distance has nothing to do with it " it has everything to do with it - if he is the legal distance from the house or barn he is breaking no law and nobody is going to stop him if he has permission to hunt there from the land owner - if he is negligent and hits the house than that is a entirely different matter - but I doubt he would do that since he knows the where the house is - hunting from a tree stand is very safe because any shot fired would be going down into the ground - to this point in the discussion he has done nothing that can be called negligent - and as far as shooting towards the house I think just the opposite was said - by putting the stand where he wants to he will be looking into the woods away from the house and shooting in that direction when the time comes - a professional witness and expert - come on man - give be a break -

Molly Mckee · #94 10/28/14, 10:52 AM

When buck fever hits, who knows where a hunter will shoot.

We had a road hunter shoot right into our horses. His excuse-"there's a buck there." Shooting from a car on the road, onto posted property, into a bunch of horses. All he could see was the buck.

One of our friends stopped a hunter that was going to shoot at a deer standing in front of our house. Hunters friend was right with him. Their excuse--"we're from Seattle, how were we supposed to know?" The house was right behind the deer, in full view. They started to give our friend a bad time until they took a good look at him. He was the center on his college football team. They decided to leave.

If you like to hunt and need other peoples property to hunt on you better work on building relationships--there are plenty of people destroying them.

nosedirt · #95 10/28/14, 02:27 PM

There is a new breed of "hunter" in the woods today. They have no idea about the hunting traditions of old. They've got some camo, a "big gun" and they're gonna kill something, no one can stop them. These people are rude, obnoxious, dangerous, and without normal, everyday common decency or common sense.

In the last few years I have seen first hand what these so called "hunters" do. I have seen the trash they leave behind, fences cut, buildings shot at(target practice). I saw a friends barn with pieces of siding torn off so that the "hunters" could build a fire in tall, dry grass. Idiots. Twice I've seen whole deer, minus the rack, left on the ground to rot. These people call themselves hunters but they are not hunters. They are fools.

Now on to the issue at hand that Toasterburn asked about...You don't know this man from Adam, he is obnoxious and rude, he threatened you and your family. I don't care if this guy wants to hunt next to my property or whistle Dixie in his underwear in a Christmas parade, I am writing a record of the incident and then calling the cops. Second phone call would be to the property owner to find out if he even knows this fool. If so, he needs to know that I won't tolerate stupidity and threats from fools. I think that is the real issue here.

I have hunted for years. I have spent a lot of time and money to support hunters rights. I did not do any of that for fools and idiots who think because they have some camo and a "big gun" they can waltz around doing as they please. Toaster wasn't talking about hunter's rights. He was talking about HIS rights and what we all thought he should do when one of these fools tries to threaten his family's safety.

Some of you made some very good points and some of you just got lost.

||Downhome|| · #96 10/28/14, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

Who gets killed? Mostly those of us living and working here. Who does the killing? The incomers for the most part. Bunch of Yahoos.

Why does this happen? Because the state encourages hunting because the hunters bring in a lot of out of state money into our local economy. I would rather have wolves. Oh, wait: I do!

That's reality.

Yes for you Highland that is reality.

You are in Vacay land for the Slabwalkers lining the coast.

But your not seeing the Folks from WV,Pennsylvania,Ohio,Michigan,Indiana.

Why Because we have excellent hunting in these states and good game laws.

Yes they all have Ignorant Slab Walkers but for the most part they are segregated to the closest public hunting.

For the most part I think our Hunters are pretty Serious in their sport, and as such strive to keep it responsible.

Ammos to pricy and as of lately some times hard to get to waste...

One Guy in a blind is not going to be a a huge disturbance.

If the OP is surrounded by Private property hunters in the Immediate Area should not be of any major disturbance either.

But I do Love how everyone goes right off the deep end with just the OP take of things?

Perchance that thought frame permeating this thread was is reaction from get to go.

It seems a pretty popular stance?

**highlands** · #97 10/28/14, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kycountry

I am focusing on the real issue... The issue is most people see a hunter with a gun and automatically think they are going to be shot. The fact is, they are just uninformed on how often this really happens.

In my opinion, the only lame thing going on is trying to justify the fears of being shot without researching the FACTS before people post..

The problem is you're defending with irrelevant statistics.
It does not matter what else it compares with.
The incidence of ONE is too much.
The fact remains that hunters are accidentally AND purposefully killing innocent people. The hunter who shot the farmer did it on purpose. He took the safety off, aimed at the farmer and then pulled the trigger. He claims he was just fooling around but he purposefully did all three things. There are too many cases of hunters killing bystanders.
That is a fact.

Yours is an opinion, as you stated. Comparing things to irrelevant statistics is useless. Stick to the facts and the point.

**highlands** · #98 10/28/14, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ||Downhome||

Yes for you Highland that is reality....For the most part I think our Hunters are pretty Serious in their sport, and as such strive to keep it responsible.

And that is the problem. 90% are fine. Even you might argue 99%. But that last bit of the percentages are a huge problem. As a farmer, a land owner and a hunter I object to those bozos who endanger our lives. The bozos are the problem and they're enough problem to make up for everyone else. A bozo was the topic of the original post.

kycountry · #99 10/28/14, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

The incidence of ONE is too much.
There are too many cases of hunters killing bystanders.
That is a fact.

Yours is an opinion, as you stated. Comparing things to irrelevant statistics is useless. Stick to the facts and the point.

Actually, everything in that post other than a hunter shot a farmer is indeed your opinion...

The facts are that hunters do kill other people.. that is the only fact...

Your opinion is one is too many, and my opinion is there would be more people killed by accidents associated with over population of wild game without hunting. Mainly deer being hit by cars..

My first opinion was based on the title of this topic.. If it was how to keep this jerk from hunting, I wouldn't replied the way I did..

hawgsquatch · #**100** 10/28/14, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoePa

hawgsquatch - you can't be serious - " legal distance has nothing to do with it " it has everything to do with it - if he is the legal distance from the house or barn he is breaking no law and nobody is going to stop him if he has permission to hunt there from the land owner - if he is negligent and hits the house than that is a entirely different matter - but I doubt he would do that since he knows the where the house is - hunting from a tree stand is very safe because any shot fired would be going down into the ground - to this point in the discussion he has done nothing that can be called negligent - and as far as shooting towards the house I think just the opposite was said - by putting the stand where he wants to he will be looking into the woods away from the house and shooting in that direction when the time comes - a professional witness and expert - come on man - give be a break -

It is legalise for example if one has been peace officer or prosecutor for five years they are considered a professional expert witness. I was using the terms I am used to. It's called the 10,000 hour rule and the courts use it to establish who is to be considered an expert and who is to be considered a lay person. It's true look it up.