Hey I Am Really A Good Guy

MJsLady · #21 09/16/14, 01:36 PM

Rock, put your fence back up.
Note what is on your side of the line and file for trespass.
Quit tickling with these guys.
Put your foot down, and move on.

big rockpile · #22 09/16/14, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

Just be sure you have proof you told them to move their stuff off your property. Get your proof that you haven't been letting them use your land for their driveway. You'll need proof when this goes to court.

Oh they moved it off. The drive part this we took to this Lawyer that told us to put up the Fence. They bought the place less than a year ago and are only there on weekends.

big rockpile

fordy · #23 09/16/14, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile

Oh they moved it off. The drive part this we took to this Lawyer that told us to put up the Fence. They bought the place less than a year ago and are only there on weekends.

big rockpile

................I wish you'd take some pics of the property lines and your fence vs their driveway so we can see a perspective of the situation ! , fordy

simi-steading · #24 09/16/14, 02:55 PM

Have you flat out asked them why they are such donkey butts? Maybe if you make them explain why they feel the need to make your life so bad, then maybe they might back away?

I've often found people like that can't stand face to face confrontations..

dizzy · #25 09/16/14, 04:35 PM

Don't know that you need to put your foot down so much as up.

sisterpine · #26 09/16/14, 05:15 PM

Wait a second , I thought your DW was working for / with the neighbor?

sisterpine · #27 09/16/14, 05:27 PM

Is this the same neighbor your DW works for/with?

Jennifer L. · #28 09/16/14, 05:49 PM

I know what you are dealing with, people who have money and think that buys them anything they want. And unfortunately, a lot of the time it does. I can think of one instance around my township where someone with money buys a piece of property and decide they want the property next door, as well.

They built their house so that one door actually EXITS onto the neighbor's property. And zoning laws in this town say you can't build closer than 10' to a neighboring property line unless they give permission. Of course, no permission was given so they went ahead and built there, anyway. The piece next door is a narrow strip to the lake that a farm kept just in case they ever needed access to the lake for a water line. I forget how wide the strip is, maybe 50'. But it's lakefront property and the banker wants the whole thing. And how do you get people to tear down part of their house when they have bottomless pits of money (this one was a bank president) and the town board is a bunch of blue collar income people who just adore rubbing elbows with rich people. This one went to the lawyers and I haven't heard how it has come out yet.

If you want to stop rich people from taking over your place you have to strike hard and decisively. Let them start putting driveways on you and who knows what else buildings and they've got half of the war won.

If you do want to sell, hold them for a king's ransom. Things like this make me furious every time I hear about it.

Maura · #29 09/16/14, 06:54 PM

I’m kinda wondering if you don’t want to look around at other property with a real nice house on it, some woods, etc. Maybe five acres. Price these properties out and put your current property up for sale for the amount you need for the nicer place. If they are so rich that they can keep you in court, maybe they are rich enough to buy your place at an inflated price and you can find new neighbors somewhere else.

big rockpile · #30 09/16/14, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterpine

Is this the same neighbor your DW works for/with?

No we done had it out with him. This one is on the other side.

big rockpile

MrSmith · #31 09/16/14, 09:18 PM

BRP you're obviously well liked here, so I don't think you're a bad guy. However, We are obviously only getting half the story in all these posts. All I can really say for sure is that some people avoid drama and some people attract it; either "on purpose" or thru misfortune. From your post history all i will say is at least it makes amusing reading.

AmericanStand · #32 09/17/14, 07:12 AM

BRP it does seem like you might be a bit harder to get along with in real life than on here. Here you seem real friendly but Wow the troubles you have had!
Ive just been reading your past threads and WOW It makes me feel good cause I have Nowhere near the Drama in my life you do. And I thought I was hard to get along with!
Im not Complaining, it makes you one of the most interesting people on the forum in my opinion!

ceresone · #33 09/17/14, 07:24 AM

Hey--it happens! I bought 40 from my neighbor, with the understanding I didn't tell her son--and she could live there until she dies. nine and a half years later-after me paying taxes and insurance on it--she took it to court-and got it back!! Said I didn't take possession of it!

haypoint · #34 09/17/14, 08:44 AM

Property line disputes are very common. People with a thousand acres will argue about a foot.
I own 120 acres in a Section that is 60 feet smaller than a mile wide. I own half of that short south side, so my property is 30 feet short of a half mile. The rest of the parcels west of me are odd chunks, with property descriptions spelled out in feet, inches and angles. All those measurements are taken from a Section corner stake, about a half mile west of me. The first piece is the west 200 feet, the next is the east 200 feet of the west 400 feet, then east 200 feet of the west 600 feet, and so on. But when you work your way to my property line, the last piece is short 30 feet. The total frontage all added up is 2640 feet, but only measures 2610 feet. My property is described as the SE quarter of the Section. Since the whole Section is short by 60 feet, my land is short by 30 feet, my half of the south side of the section.
Had a BIL of the owner next to me demand I stop plowing that 30 feet. He expected me to give up an additional 30 feet, because his MIL property was measured and he felt she should have her whole 200 feet. I told him he needed to get with all the other owners and settle it, I had already given up 30 feet and wouldn't be giving up more.

AmericanStand · #35 09/17/14, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

Property line disputes are very common. People with a thousand acres will argue about a foot.
I own 120 acres in a Section that is 60 feet smaller than a mile wide. I own half of that short south side, so my property is 30 feet short of a half mile. The rest of the parcels west of me are odd chunks, with property descriptions spelled out in feet, inches and angles. All those measurements are taken from a Section corner stake, about a half mile west of me. The first piece is the west 200 feet, the next is the east 200 feet of the west 400 feet, then east 200 feet of the west 600 feet, and so on. But when you work your way to my property line, the last piece is short 30 feet. The total frontage all added up is 2640 feet, but only measures 2610 feet. My property is described as the SE quarter of the Section. Since the whole Section is short by 60 feet, my land is short by 30 feet, my half of the south side of the section.
Had a BIL of the owner next to me demand I stop plowing that 30 feet. He expected me to give up an additional 30 feet, because his MIL property was measured and he felt she should have her whole 200 feet. I told him he needed to get with all the other owners and settle it, I had already given up 30 feet and wouldn't be giving up more.

Im a little confused by the description of how things happened here But in most rectangular net surveys the entire shortage comes off of the parcels that include the effected line. Why is your parcel only 30 feet short if the section is 60 feet short ? Usually the SE corner would be the FULL 2640 , if Im understanding what your saying you have gave up 30 feet of your property.

big rockpile · #36 09/17/14, 11:31 AM

Ok some pictures.

This is coming in one section of my Circle Drive. Their Drive goes to the left. I left it open so they can get in and out. The Small Stake with Survey Tape is the Property Corner. The T Post is the start of the Fence.

Hey I Am Really A Good Guy - Homesteading Questions

This is the Corner looking along the Property Line by their House.

This is how close the Line is to their House.

This is where I run the Fence across where their Circle Drive came out, it was running right into my drive.

Found out today they was telling the Lawyer I was cutting off all access to their property which we are not.

big rockpile

handymama · #37 09/17/14, 11:34 AM

Around here there's laws about having a house that close to a property line. Least ways, I couldn't put my house within thirty feet of mine in any direction. Wonder if they're technically legal with that close?

Nevada · #38 09/17/14, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by copperkid3

Did the lawyer take ANY money (or thing of value) from either
you or your wife previously when advising on what to do
with the trouble with the neighbor(s)?

It doesn't matter. Even if you take your story to a lawyer and then hire a different lawyer the first lawyer can't represent your opponent. The problem with that is that even though you didn't hire the first lawyer you still gave him confidential details about the dispute that could be used against you. Any lawyer that you interviewed and told your story to would have to recuse himself.

But I'm not at all sure that the neighbor went to the lawyer to hire him. He may have gone to your lawyer to negotiate a settlement, which is entirely appropriate. Of your legal opponent has been informed that you have hired a lawyer then he should be negotiating with that lawyer.

haley1 · #39 09/17/14, 12:20 PM

do they have easement for the driveway? if not maybe send a notice and give them sixty days to make their own driveway to the road and fence off their driveway acces

fordy · #40 09/17/14, 12:36 PM

.............Your neighbor Knew where the property line WAS when his property was surveyed ! And , Unless there is a specific reference in his deed that says his property has the right of ingress\egress to your driveway to access his land I don't see how he has any legal basis for the 'Right' to do so ! ,. fordy