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06/08/14, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by michael ark
Medicare is being robed by the affordable care act.I have had 6 disk and some bone removed from my spine 4 years ago. That surgery was a bust and i got a bad infection that ate a hole in my spine and nerves.So now i am on disability co pays have went way up and therapy was cut down in half.
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I am so sorry. We're all at risk b/c of the over 750 billion taken from medicare. Home health care was one of the worst areas raided.
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06/08/14, 12:50 PM
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That's not true. Medicare is NOT being raided to cover the Affordable Care Act.
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06/08/14, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fishhead
That's not true. Medicare is NOT being raided to cover the Affordable Care Act.
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Really? The law actually includes the creation of a panel to keep the cost of Medicare to within 1% of CPI by recommending cuts in reimbursement. And raised taxes, fees etc at the same time. So the spending is artifically cut and the taxes to pay for it raised and the savings in Medicare is used to keep the increase in government cost for Obamacare (subsidies and medicaid expansion) revenue neutral.
So yes, it is written in the law itself that Medicare cuts will pay for Obamacare.
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06/09/14, 11:04 PM
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SS, lots of good advice here. Now when you start on Medicare you are urged to get a "Welcome to Medicare" physical with two pages of tests they think you MUST need! I have yet to have a patient of mine get diagnosed with anything that was previously missed before they were 65 with this battery of tests. Of course, all insurance companies send out letters daily asking why I have not prescribed this medication or that test for a patient, or why they aren't taking a med that was discontinued months ago. On the other hand, when I think they need a drug or test, I have to spend 30 minutes or more on the phone to get them to pay for it! Believe me, the aggravation goes both ways! It distresses me to hear that you do not understand what is going on, however. Perhaps bring a family member to your appointments to make sure both of you are understanding the problem and plan? You have the right to decide what you will or won't be subjected to, at any step of the way, but need to know what the consequences of that decision will be. I hope your doctor is listening to you and taking time to explain what is going on. God bless!
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Wes you are so spot on. Friend 1, 2 and myself made use of a "health fair". The test were cheap. Each of us followed up with are own Dr. Who listened and was ok with each of us as we selected what level of care we wanted to go thru.
One choose to replace two knees. One at a time and to spend the recoup time away from Alaska's winter. getting callsnly got one done and something is not good. She is getting the pushy calls from the knee clinic.
The second is a ww2 vet widow. And oddly enough with the vet getting left behind she got the got a higher type of test oat the VA and is happy to know what is going on......She accepts her limited days. Now The health Care fair who did the first basic test will not stop call her to get more care.
Some of the clinic are very pushy. Tell them it is not worth the money or time and they are slow to accept a no.
A doc that knows you understand that refusal of available treatments is not senility but just a life style. The docs have not been the problem but the clinics. And I used to love the clinics but I was younger and the few times they preferred me for major issue it was worth it to me. There comes a time when there is so much that a person wants to get done and a week traveling for medical care etc takes the joy out of living.
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06/10/14, 03:29 AM
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Sally, the high levels of protein in your blood may be a sign of Multiple Myeloma, a cancer of the bone marrow. High albumin protein is caused by kidney issues and is easily spotted right away. The Bence Jones proteins of MM show up on protein electrophoresis of your Bllodhound and urine, which your primary care doctor can order. If positive, this is a very treatable cancer these days. Good luck and God bless!
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06/10/14, 06:56 AM
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06/10/14, 10:34 AM
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From your link "Republicans claim the president’s $716 billion “cuts” to Medicare hurt the program’s finances. But the opposite is true."
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06/10/14, 11:53 AM
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Not only did they cut the funds they are now going after the Medicare Advantage programs as well and cut funds from them~! Obama has already promised to do that, now it looks like they will.`!
There are now 16 million seniors, and disabled people on these Advantage Programs including yours Truly.
So I have kept up on these Medicare cuts, as it differently affects ME~!
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06/10/14, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mistletoad
From your link "Republicans claim the president’s $716 billion “cuts” to Medicare hurt the program’s finances. But the opposite is true."
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That was a bad example. It's part of the Obamacare's touting of the advantage of cutting medicare where the whole effect of financially pressuring providers causing reductions in services is totally ignored. Basically the idea is that spending less money is good but ignores that cutting spending for things needed to live is not so good. For the people who will do the dying that is.
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06/10/14, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by arabian knight
Not only did they cut the funds they are now going after the Medicare Advantage programs as well and cut funds from them~! Obama has already promised to do that, now it looks like they will.`!
There are now 16 million seniors, and disabled people on these Advantage Programs including yours Truly.
So I have kept up on these Medicare cuts, as it differently affects ME~!
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.................If we get a Republican President , Like Jeb Bush I feel confident he will rebalance these cuts and reform Obama care ! , fordy
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06/10/14, 01:52 PM
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I think both side are part of the problem. They all lie and line their pockets. Give me liberty or give me coin. http://time.com/373/congress-is-now-...ionaires-club/
They don't have to worry about their health care cause money talks.
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06/10/14, 01:52 PM
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oops..
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06/10/14, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by arabian knight
Not only did they cut the funds they are now going after the Medicare Advantage programs as well and cut funds from them~! Obama has already promised to do that, now it looks like they will.`!
There are now 16 million seniors, and disabled people on these Advantage Programs including yours Truly.
So I have kept up on these Medicare cuts, as it differently affects ME~!
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The supplemental Medicare plans are underwritten by private health care insurers, aren't they? How does the government cut funds from a private company?
Do you have a link that explains what Obama promised to do and how it will accomplished?
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06/10/14, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Irish Pixie
The supplemental Medicare plans are underwritten by private health care insurers, aren't they? How does the government cut funds from a private company?
Do you have a link that explains what Obama promised to do and how it will accomplished?
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Sure no problem.
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President-elect Barack Obama suggested big changes were on the horizon during a Dec. 11, 2008, press conference in Chicago when he said: “We're also going to examine programs that I'm not sure are giving us a good bang for the buck. The Medicare Advantage program is one that I've already cited where we're spending billions of dollars subsidizing insurance companies.”
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Sen. Al Franken didn’t mince words when he accused Medicare Advantage plans of overcharging the federal government -- and praised legislation to slash their payments by billions of dollars.
“These insurers were getting much more than they should have based on the benefits they were providing to seniors. So we cut what Medicare gives to these private insurance companies,” the Minnesota Democrat intoned in a Dec. 13, 2012, speech on the Senate floor in praise of the Affordable Care Act.
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http://http://www.nbcnews.com/news/i...ngress-n126431
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06/10/14, 03:50 PM
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Thank you. Oh, I see now, the insurance companies were overcharging the government and they have taken steps to stop to it. I guess you could call that cutting funding, if you used a very very broad definition.
Isn't it good that the government is not going to be overcharged? Further, has it been established that the private companies are going to cut benefits to seniors?
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06/10/14, 03:56 PM
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Lets not wait to find out. 16 Million older folks spend on these programs. Some on so little income they Have To go with there lowest in cost.
There are PLENTY I mean Plenty other wasteful things going on then cutting such things as THIS.
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06/10/14, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by arabian knight
Not only did they cut the funds they are now going after the Medicare Advantage programs as well and cut funds from them~! Obama has already promised to do that, now it looks like they will.`!
There are now 16 million seniors, and disabled people on these Advantage Programs including yours Truly.
So I have kept up on these Medicare cuts, as it differently affects ME~!
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Originally Posted by arabian knight
Lets not wait to find out. 16 Million older folks spend on these programs. Some on so little income they Have To go with there lowest in cost.
There are PLENTY I mean Plenty other wasteful things going on then cutting such things as THIS.
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But your original post indicated that cutting the funds was a done deal, didn't it? The government isn't cutting anything, they are simply forcing the private insurers to adhere to the original contract.
I don't think it's even likely that having been caught with their hand in the cookie jar that the private insurers are going to cut any benefits.
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06/10/14, 08:14 PM
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Y'all are messin' with my thread....
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06/10/14, 08:18 PM
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Y'all are messin' with my thread....
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Sorry, thread drift just happens...
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06/10/14, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Westexas
Sally, the high levels of protein in your blood may be a sign of Multiple Myeloma, a cancer of the bone marrow. High albumin protein is caused by kidney issues and is easily spotted right away. The Bence Jones proteins of MM show up on protein electrophoresis of your Bllodhound and urine, which your primary care doctor can order. If positive, this is a very treatable cancer these days. Good luck and God bless!
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Westexas, that was something that was mentioned today at a followup with another of the docs I went to see. So when I got home I Googled MM and you are absolutely correct. We all gotta go in some fashion or another, but I was hoping it would be painless.
Another issue one of the specialists said that I have is high iron levels and will be having a blood test in a couple of weeks to check for hemochromotosis.
So let's see - kidney failure, liver problems, high iron levels, blood cancer, hypothyroidism, high (but controlled) blood pressure, extremly low vitamin d levels. Anyone want to take out an insurance policy on me? It's a sure bet!
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