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06/07/14, 11:04 AM
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Can you start building that area up by putting anything you pull up or rake in there? Weeds, leaves, grass clippings, newspaper (shredded, or soaked in water and weighted down.) I've heard of people who drive around and pick up bagged leaves from in front of houses in the fall. That does sound rather large. Maybe just pacing it off would work better. I was going to farm market once or twice a week with the overage from a garden roughly 50' x 65', and not all of that was planted since I had some raised beds with mower-width walkways between in there.
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This is an excellent idea too. When we put potatoes in our new ground we mulch them heavily in leaves and clippings and it makes a huge difference when you till it the next spring.
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06/07/14, 11:19 AM
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Just put your numbers into the calculator and it says you have a 5.5 acre garden?
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re read post #1 second paragraph...she is asking what to plant in a 30 x 200 area....thats area i calculated to be planted(its .14ac)..not the entire area of which she already has part planted and growing.
but you are correct on what the calculation is on 200 x 1200....5.51ac
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06/07/14, 11:26 AM
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Are you growing that mainly for feed or to attract wildlife?
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D. all of the above
not sure how it will go as one time the bears just hammered it. i am trying to figure out a way to once its full to harvest it..entire head and skewer it on a stick or string to finish drying.maybe a large knitting needle sharpened on heavy cord and hung up like they do leather britches(beans).
i am getting ready to put incubator to running with dark cornish(indian game) roo crossed on my speckled sussex/RIR hens.i hope to have feed to cut bought goods...but you know what they say about counting chickens....and harvesting crops..lol...before they even come up...lol
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06/07/14, 11:29 AM
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Walk it off yourself, a big step/stride is about 3', so walk along and count 3, 6, 9, and you will get a better idea of what you have.
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Oh my word.
I have to step and count by 3's? Y'all forget I'm a jr. college drop out. I'm not so sure I'm that coordinated, either. !!
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06/07/14, 11:34 AM
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D. all of the above
not sure how it will go as one time the bears just hammered it. i am trying to figure out a way to once its full to harvest it..entire head and skewer it on a stick or string to finish drying.maybe a large knitting needle sharpened on heavy cord and hung up like they do leather britches(beans).
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Get some string, kite string works, and a sharp darning needle or leather needle, as you string each on tie a knot on either side of the stem to give them room for air to circulate, then hang them somewhere where they will dry and mice can't get to them.
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06/07/14, 11:34 AM
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did you reset it back to zero on each side..???
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06/07/14, 11:37 AM
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06/07/14, 11:40 AM
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D. all of the above
not sure how it will go as one time the bears just hammered it. i am trying to figure out a way to once its full to harvest it..entire head and skewer it on a stick or string to finish drying.maybe a large knitting needle sharpened on heavy cord and hung up like they do leather britches(beans).
i am getting ready to put incubator to running with dark cornish(indian game) roo crossed on my speckled sussex/RIR hens.i hope to have feed to cut bought goods...but you know what they say about counting chickens....and harvesting crops..lol...before they even come up...lol
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Are you aiming for a good meat bird? Sounds like an interesting cross. I love Speckled Sussex.
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06/07/14, 11:40 AM
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Get some string, kite string works, and a sharp darning needle or leather needle, as you string each on tie a knot on either side of the stem to give them room for air to circulate, then hang them somewhere where they will dry and mice can't get to them.
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i have an open air shed 40ft long i plan on hanging it in.but last time i planned on doing it the bears wallowed it all down.i had piles of bear poop filled with those tiny seed everywhere...lol
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06/07/14, 11:42 AM
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Oh my word.
I have to step and count by 3's? Y'all forget I'm a jr. college drop out. I'm not so sure I'm that coordinated, either. !!
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We walked our off at first but eventually we got one of those really long tape measures on a spool and our guesstimate was very close.
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06/07/14, 11:44 AM
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Are you aiming for a good meat bird? Sounds like an interesting cross. I love Speckled Sussex.
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yes and no....my main interest was foraging ability but the meat side too.i just read something that they cross real well on all sussex.i actually have one of the white looking sussex....they call them something else here though...i am drawing a blank right now. in wilderness its gotta be tough,alert to live very long.
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06/07/14, 12:15 PM
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Walk it off yourself, a big step/stride is about 3', so walk along and count 3, 6, 9, and you will get a better idea of what you have.
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Or for us math challenged just count normally and take the end result and multiple it by 3.  We walked heel to toe and counted each step and it came out pretty close to exact.
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06/07/14, 01:29 PM
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Walk it off yourself, a big step/stride is about 3', so walk along and count 3, 6, 9, and you will get a better idea of what you have.
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Oh my word.
I have to step and count by 3's? Y'all forget I'm a jr. college drop out. I'm not so sure I'm that coordinated, either. !!
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You don't have to count by 3's. Just take a big 3' step and count them and when to the end multiply them by 3.
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06/07/14, 07:59 PM
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The bad thing about cutting the milo heads and trying top store them in anything but barrels, is that they'll attract mice, BAD.
Atchison Kans used to have several alchaol plants in it, and when we went to visit the folks once a year for a week, you could smell Atchison before you got within miles of it, and all through it. Ive growed it 2 times. Both did well, once here, and once there. It did lots better there.
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06/07/14, 09:18 PM
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Well clearly I cannot count
So I walked the garden. With a "big step" I counted 83 then multiplied by 3 to get 249ft. Then I walked toe heel and came up with 249. Pretty darn close. But gosh doggit - that is NOT what that wheel said the 4k times I ran it down the hill!!! I'll admit my eye sight isn't the best (10+ years of Advair will do that to you) but I know that is what it said! And-when I walked toe heel up the short side I got 187 - the wheel said 189. How could I be off with one measurement but not the other? And on top of being math challenged and blind, I'm clearly unable to judge dimensions. When I look at the garden, from either end and from a distance it just doesn't look not even twice as long as it is wide. I give up on the measuring part. I just want it to grow.
And I might have to just bring gobs of compost up to the empty space. I've got a man who owns a small restaurant asking for 3 bushels of yellow squash a week to start. YAY! He said his biggest issue with summer squash is that everyone plants at the same time and everyone runs out at the same time ... so I said I'd plant another row of seeds now so I could keep him in squash longer. I'm only going to plant one more row so maybe I can sneak in some sorghum, too. I'm pretty stinking excited about my little squash sale today!!!
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187 x 249
Result
Total Acreage = 1.07
Total Square Yards = 5,173.67
Total Square Feet = 46,563.00
Total Square Inches = 6,705,072.00
i use to measure land to be sold in timber sales....its easy to be fooled.you should measure i big boundary and then put ya numbers in computer program and it tells you made a mistake....lol...then you get to go back and re do it again till it "closes properly" on computer end. i
worked one unit the compass was swing constantly from deposits in the rock there. pullin the needle.like to never got it to "close"
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06/07/14, 09:31 PM
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congrats on the squash....dont forget to wait a bit and put in even more to have a premium crop price even later.
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06/07/14, 09:33 PM
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Elk-you knew before I recounted how big my garden was. Somehow you could look at the picture and see through my fuzzy math and you were right on target.  After I read your message I was standing downhill looking up at the garden and trying to juxtapose the property we had before we moved. We lived on .97 of an acre and it seemed pretty close when I closed my eyes and imagined it.
What's so insane is that for the past 8 weeks I've looked at the space and thought, "Yeah-it seems like it could be 6 times longer than it is wide." I should just stick to weeding and thinning and leave the difficult stuff to someone else.
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06/08/14, 04:56 AM
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Oh my word.
I have to step and count by 3's? Y'all forget I'm a jr. college drop out. I'm not so sure I'm that coordinated, either. !!
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Here's an old-timey way to measure, called links and chains(back to Geo. Washington, when he was a surveyor): Get a 100 foot length of rope, and attach(tie) a metal stake with a ring on the top of it. Stick the stake in the ground and start walking. When you reach the end of the one hundred foot distance--you'll feel resistance on your arm, stop and thread the rope through another stake you are carrying, which has a larger diameter ring on the top, larger that the diameter of the first one. Stick this stake in the ground and then tug on the rope, pulling the first one out of the ground--and start walking again. Continue this process of putting a new stake on, and pulling out the latest one until you get to your end destination. You will have to measure the distance on the last one if it doesn't come out to an even 100 feet. The number of rings you collected on your rope times 100, plus the measured distance of the end one will give you your overall distance......
You can make the stakes with the rings out of No. Nine wire..same kind of wire you make a chicken catcher out of. Good winter project.
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06/08/14, 06:56 AM
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PP...you can figure out how far you step by laying out a measuring tape and practicing "pacing".you figure out after a bit how to feel each step and know when you are over stepping and under stepping.my step is 2.79.the trick is maintaining that step on rough ground.
when i was young i won a land measuring competition where they laid out multiple boundary's of land in strange shapes and sizes.all we could use was pencil and paper to figure out their sizes and then calculate the acreage.i would probably get a nose bleed from siphoring them kind of numbers now....lol....winning that would later help open a door for me at age 23 to pursue my life long dream job.when i started that job we measured with a 200foot "chain" and compass and used a computer program...i never even seen a computer until then..lol....but with those tools it was easy...but you had to like wilderness and rain and heavy under growth...i was in hog heaven.
me measuring land boundary in the cascade rain forest lands of washington state
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