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Old 06/04/14, 07:04 AM
 
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This isn't going to be poplar here but the day that you did not buy the land you stopped having a say so over it.
I'd actually think most people here would agree with that statement....BUT not having a say so over it doesn't mean that you necessarily like or agree with what someone else does with it. I will readily admit that I don't want someone to move close to me, but at the same time I definitely recognize their right to do so if they buy the land. I would just hope and pray that IF someone did move next door that God would bless me with a great neighbor or at least the ability to be a great neighbor myself.
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Old 06/04/14, 05:25 PM
 
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This isn't going to be poplar here but the day that you did not buy the land you stopped having a say so over it.
My farms are mine and under my control and if you do not like what I am doing you should have bought them before me. I have a neighbor that lives behind me which has already called the sheriff on me parking my truck on the back access to my land. They are on probation by me and if they raise their little head up to complain any more there will be a rental house (THE ONLY ONE ON MY FARM) at their driveway. I am clearing trees taking down barns and getting roads back to be able to use the land.
You live in a Republic that was set on the promise that your land is yours and not the government where you came from and when you allow people to tell you how to live you are on the way to become a subject not a citizen.
Yes I will be replanting the ceder that I am cutting with Fruit and nut bearing trees.
I think you would feel a little differently if you had bought your land in the midst of a large forest that you had been told was under a covenant and could not be cut. If you bought it thinking that it would be forest forever you might not be so happy to find out that was not true.

Nobody including the OP ever said you don't have the right to do whatever you want. But I think your current course of antagonising your neighbor is a bad one.
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Old 01/29/15, 07:13 PM
 
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neighbors clear cutting

just a update, 4 acres on my southwest side clear cut of pine she got $2 thousand, yes first time being cut. total of 15 acres cut. not sure what they got for the 15 acres but that man does not live here and the one cutting the 4 acres is moving, so they dont care they dont live here full time. sure looks bad. and now I have to post a sign saying I am planning on becoming a nudest so if you mind to bad you cut my privacy now deal with it. just fun-ing
I know its theirs to do as they please but the 3 that didnt cut have to live with the the mess and change in the land (and that change is huge) of the 2 that did and dont live here full time. I am hoping I have more sun now to do a veg garden and better flower beds in my yard. What me off is I have owned this land for like 30 years and when I was building 1997 I had to pay to have the electric line buried because I was told I could not have THAT many trees cut down and pay more for my drive way to go around trees for the same reason. thats all, and for all this mess I sure would want more then a few thousand dollars. Oh and the wind that now is blowing in my direction is such a change, and it seems to be coming from the west? Thanks all for letting me vent just needed to hear from others since I could not express my frustration with the folks around here. But maybe this is good, I will get all the birds and piliated woodpeckers, and deer. I did manage to save the deer birthing area that was on my and the cut site from the tree cutting. hope it works we have one mommy that has twins every year in the same place and she will invite us to take a look at her babies .
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Old 01/29/15, 07:42 PM
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Around here they consider Trees the same as weeds. Years ago they was spraying thousands of acres to kill all the tress. Now they just Doze and burn every year. We drive through miles where fires have killed bulk of Trees, they are falling down and Underbrush is growing thick. Far worse Fire Danger than it ever was.

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Old 01/29/15, 08:08 PM
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Around here, logging on a place usually mean the land will be on the market in a few months. Simply having the trees cut means it is actually easier to sell a a higher value and then you get some money from the sale of the trees.
But of course redwoods resprout something fierce so if the land doesn't sell within a couple of years, it will be redwood brush about 10 ft high in 2 years and trees within 8. It's hard to clear redwoods.
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Old 02/02/15, 01:58 PM
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Long time farm families dont like people moving out of the city on little 5-10 acre "mini-farms". Most times they are a pain, dont know how to be neighborly, and want to tell the farmers what to do. The city folks will gate, post no tresspassing signs and dont want anyone on their place, but then treat the neighbors farms as if it is public property. They are also bad about getting a pack of dogs and letting them run through the farmers cattle. Or they will buy a bunch of Llamas, not keep up their fences, and the Llamas are always in the farmers crops.

I have seen it happen.

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Old 02/03/15, 05:07 PM
 
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Here they just cut several acres guy runs the tops threw a chipper he can run a whole tree threw it also . Pine stumps are a easy dig . Spring gets here this will all be planted ,it is now farm land .
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Old 02/03/15, 11:48 PM
 
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last I knew pulpwood pine was $16 a ton here. I don't see why it should be any lower anywhere else unless the pulp mill is so far away it takes more money to haul it. Maybe $3 is the landowners share when a contract logger does the work.
In the last several years the timber company that owns several thousand acres all around us cut their timber, millions of bd ft removed and left the land a mess. I cut my own timber and try to do it much lower impact with smaller equipment, a little at a time for the last 30 years. Now I'm ready to start clearing some for ag use.
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Old 02/04/15, 03:00 AM
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We are going to selectively log to build a log home on our property. Our forest needs thinned, but we have zero desire to clear cut. In fact, we aren't planning on clearing more than our home area. We already have enough cleared property for our little orchard, garden, and chickens. On a nearby road, not seen from our property, there is a clear cut property (about 5 acres). One word - U G L Y! All along the road are forested properties, some with clearings, ponds, creeks, etc...then the eyesore. Yes, that owner can do what he wants, but no one else has to enjoy viewing the destruction of what once was a beautiful forest. I am so glad this property isn't close to ours. It saddens me to drive by it. In time, I am hoping the owner does something with it. It would be terrible if he just left it a mess!

As a Realtor, I can tell you that it is far easier to sell a forested property than one covered in stumps (almost impossible to sell here). The most highly sought after type of property here? A clearing for a home with forested buffer. It has taken almost three years for a nearby property to be sold. They didn't clear cut it, but did log it extensively, and left the stumps. Here, three years can result in quite a transformation (vegetation growth...).
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Old 02/04/15, 09:31 AM
 
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Years ago someone came in from out of state , brought a place that was all timber, hired a bulldozer, pushed the trees up in piles and burned them. I do not think there was any effort to even sell the timber. The neighbors jumped him bad about what he did. He had not even realized the damage he did to the neighbors. From that time on the creek that had in the past only infrequently over flowed the banks, became a constant problem. the low water bridge was replaced with one that was 8 ft above the old one and during heavy rains, even it became impassable.
There are over grown fields, that clearing can be return to production. There are woods that are only meant to be woods and never "reclaimed" their only good standing is preventing erosion and protecting creeks and rivers.
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You live in a Republic that was set on the promise that your land is yours and not the government where you came from and when you allow people to tell you how to live you are on the way to become a subject not a citizen.
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Old 02/05/15, 05:12 PM
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clear cutting is double edged

Could be worse. Count your blessings. My neighbor went further. I usd my life savings to go out in the country for peace, quiet and beauty on an old homestead. My neighbor has 10 acres wooded & steep. Beautiful view out my windows. 4 months after I moved in he completely clear cutted, then sprayed herbicide all over it. Land is absolutely dead.. So bad the rain is eroding all the soil down the hills. Then he made ATV and motorcycle tracks all over it. Noise dust, mud. ugly, thoughtless obnoxious .... Its neighbors like this that make some folks snap.
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