1229Likes
 |
|

03/17/14, 08:03 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,552
|
|
|
I can assure you and be proud saying it, I ain't or have been city folks. Most of the country folks I have ever known, keep their animals on their property.
|

03/17/14, 08:06 PM
|
 |
Miniature Horse lover
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: West Central WI.
Posts: 21,250
|
|
|
Well that is why they LIVE in the city so they don't have to put up with that kind of stuff. And living out in the country as I do, I sure would be having someones chickens for dinner if they kept coming over in MY YARD. Keep them at home.
Don't mind it fine, but those folks are few around. And never found in City Limits, that is why People LIVE in cities, so they don't have to put up with that kind of stuff OR spend Their Own Hard earned money putting up a fence to keep someone else's animals out. When living in a city limits YOU have responsibility yourself and for your own critters whatever they may be. Your critters ,Your on Land, not someones else's place.
|

03/17/14, 08:37 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: True Northern California
Posts: 13,460
|
|
|
The guy I mentioned with the free range chickens? Came here from San Francisco, stayed for 5 years. The whole "country dream" thing turned out to be too much work- not to mention that he actually had to fix things himself.
Too many people move from town to have the "freedom" of living in the country- by which they mean letting the dog roam it wants so they don't have to clean up poop.
No there just seem to be two kinds of people- not country or city but those who respect their neighbors and those that don't.
__________________
For we used to ask when we were little, thinking that the old men knew all things which are on earth: yet forsooth they did not know; but we do not contradict them, for neither do we know.
|

03/17/14, 09:09 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,443
|
|
Oh my! I can't hardly believe how many replies there is to this post of mine. I just posted it last night and then I log on this evening and there are 5 pages of replies. Wow!
Quote:
Originally Posted by am1too
Wonder if the new tenant has a cat or dog.
|
There not suppose to have, but in the last 15 years this area has been infested with abandoned cats. I feel like it's the reason why I don't see wild rabbits and quail anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by am1too
I've noticed animal containment isn't cheap and always 100% effective.
OK the OP can make a little pen for his chickens. It won't solve the pathogen problem.
|
Well, I'm not sure, but I thought the chicken plant employees weren't suppose to live within 1/4 of anyone with chickens. So thier next move might be to tell me I can't have chickens anymore. I got news for them, want to hear it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by am1too
I've not found a solution to 100% control of any animal. My brother had a cocker spaniel that could jump a 6 ft fence. My dogs will actually climb a wire fence. They've also been known to break or slip a collar.
|
Yep, my little beagle pup I got for Christmas is learning to climb his little pen fence. That's probably gonna be another neighborly complaint someday!
Quote:
Originally Posted by hiddensprings
Sorry, but I feel like you need to keep your chickens off other people's property. What if it was the renter's dog coming over and doing his business on your yard. Kind of the same thing.....
|
I periodically have that happen and I already have and have used the solution. High powered pellet rifle! Since I bought the thing, I haven't seen one dog come back after using it on them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Possum Belly
I can assure you and be proud saying it, I ain't or have been city folks. Most of the country folks I have ever known, keep their animals on their property.
|
Well you probably don't know what a true country boy really is!
I live on about a 150 year old farm that's been in my family ever since the Cherokees were forced over here in the early 1800's. Although the land across the road belongs to someone else, it did belong in the family at one time and was sold about 60 years ago. Long before I was born. But the land on this side of the road still belongs to me, aunts and uncles, and cousins.
I grew up on this land and the closes neighbor was 1/4 mile from us in one direction and 3/4 mile in the other direction. Both were Brothers of my Mom. Now days there is probably 20 -25 residents all around me.
So when I mentioned in my post "I lost some of my freedom" I was refering to ways things are changing for me. Growing up around here, I ran up and down the creek for miles, ran all through the woods, family land or others. No one cared back in those days. Hunted every living creature you could find. Had coon and squirrel dogs that were never chained or fenced up, cause you didn't have to worry about anyone stealing them or being on someone elses land. No one cared back them days. We had chickens that free ranged everywhere. No one cared back in them days!
No one cared cause we didn't have close neighbors. Now I do! So that's why I'm loosing my freedom. When the trailor court went in I had to get rid of my free ranging turkeys. No one told me to get rid of them, but I did anyway cause I was concerned one of my toms might attack some little kid and I didn't want a lawsuit against me. I no longer have coon dogs cause I get tired of seeing them chainned up all the time. All I have now days is one little rat terrior who thinks he's the most ferrosious animal ever, till you act like your picking up a stick or rock. And I can no longer run up and down the creeks, hills, or fields, cause most all the land around here has changed ownership. Previous owners have passed on and the new owners are too selfish to let anyone on. Even if they own 500 acres and don't utilize all the land, they don't want anyone on it for no reason what's so ever.
So there, I'm a true country boy and not some d.a. cityslicker who's come to the country thinking their country people.
Now, back to my original post. Like I said I was already working on a chicken tractor and am only gonna keep a few hens and get rid of the rest. This was planned long before any landlord gave warnings. And come about May, I will be getting more chicks to roam my yard, but they shouldn't have to worry too much about them crossing the road. Most usually by the time they get big enough to start ventureing that far away, it's time to take them to the sale anyway. So there, I'm still gonna have my freerange eggs and chicks!
__________________
r.h. in oklahoma
Raised a country boy, and will die a country boy.
|

03/17/14, 09:22 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,288
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by VERN in IL
See folks, here is the thing you got to understand, city folks never figure it out. If you don't have it fenced in, locked behind gate, it is public access. My neighbors chickens love to pick n' scratch in my yard, so I put a fence around my Garden where I don't want them. I don't mind the neighbors cow which is in pastures by my property, sometimes the fence breaks and they get out. That is part of life.
Out here in the country, we have fences where they are needed. If you don't have a fence, then expect anything to come in, and out. That is part of reality city dwellers forget, because they have been so removed from the land, and disconnected with nature. A chicken in the flower bed is no reason to bring out the 12 gauge! Our neighbor dogs run free, never ate our other neighbors livestock(seriously dogs?) and we teach our children how to deal with strange dogs, so they don't get bitten.
So Joshie, if I so happen to have a "free range rabid abused dog that has gone schizo to eat my neighbors cows and chase children around trying to bite them" I would put it down.
|
Vern, when you are ready to leave the Socialist Republic of Illinois, I would be mighty glad to have you as a neighbor.
|

03/17/14, 09:27 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,552
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy
Well you probably don't know what a true country boy really is!
I live on about a 150 year old farm that's been in my family ever since the Cherokees were forced over here in the early 1800's. Although the land across the road belongs to someone else, it did belong in the family at one time and was sold about 60 years ago. Long before I was born. But the land on this side of the road still belongs to me, aunts and uncles, and cousins.
I grew up on this land and the closes neighbor was 1/4 mile from us in one direction and 3/4 mile in the other direction. Both were Brothers of my Mom. Now days there is probably 20 -25 residents all around me.
So when I mentioned in my post "I lost some of my freedom" I was refering to ways things are changing for me. Growing up around here, I ran up and down the creek for miles, ran all through the woods, family land or others. No one cared back in those days. Hunted every living creature you could find. Had coon and squirrel dogs that were never chained or fenced up, cause you didn't have to worry about anyone stealing them or being on someone elses land. No one cared back them days. We had chickens that free ranged everywhere. No one cared back in them days!
No one cared cause we didn't have close neighbors. Now I do! So that's why I'm loosing my freedom. When the trailor court went in I had to get rid of my free ranging turkeys. No one told me to get rid of them, but I did anyway cause I was concerned one of my toms might attack some little kid and I didn't want a lawsuit against me. I no longer have coon dogs cause I get tired of seeing them chainned up all the time. All I have now days is one little rat terrior who thinks he's the most ferrosious animal ever, till you act like your picking up a stick or rock. And I can no longer run up and down the creeks, hills, or fields, cause most all the land around here has changed ownership. Previous owners have passed on and the new owners are too selfish to let anyone on. Even if they own 500 acres and don't utilize all the land, they don't want anyone on it for no reason what's so ever.
So there, I'm a true country boy and not some d.a. cityslicker who's come to the country thinking their country people.
|
If you are measuring being country by how many acres you were raised on, then by my measures you would have been a city boy. You have no idea. Our nearest neighbors were 12 miles as the crow flies. Our mailbox was 9 miles and town was 30. Spent 25 yrs there. Plain and simple, you have no respect for others, IMO.
Oh, I almost forgot, our dirt driveway was 3 miles long.
Last edited by unregistered41671; 03/17/14 at 10:51 PM.
|

03/17/14, 10:07 PM
|
|
Registered User
|
|
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Western Oregon
Posts: 163
|
|
This thread is starting to sound like a pissin contest.
|

03/17/14, 10:10 PM
|
 |
More dharma, less drama.
|
|
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Texas Coastal Bend/S. Missouri
Posts: 30,490
|
|
|
It's heading for being shut down, I'm sure.
__________________
Alice
* * *
"No great thing is created suddenly." ~Epictitus
|

03/17/14, 10:21 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 63
|
|
|
I am in Baltimore city deal with family stuff and they are having a rat problem here....well when I was a kid teen young mother living here we had TOM CATS (cats that could and did go outside) that took care of the rats and mice. My grandparent always had a outside cat here in the city. But the new comers to the area decided cats killed birds and you could not let the cats outside without being on a leash. So now they have rats. And we have house cats
Things change and we have to deal with change
|

03/17/14, 10:52 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,443
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Possum Belly
If you are measuring being country by how many acres you were raised on, then by my measures you would have been a city boy. You have no idea. Our nearest neighbors were 12 miles as the crow flies. Our mailbox was 9 miles and town was 30. Spent 25 yrs there. Plain and simple, you have no respect for others, IMO.
Oh, I almost forgot, our dirt driveway was 3 miles long.
|
Who said anything about the number of acres I lived on?
Still I'm going to have my free range eggs and chicks.
__________________
r.h. in oklahoma
Raised a country boy, and will die a country boy.
|

03/17/14, 10:54 PM
|
|
Guest
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,552
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy
Who said anything about the number of acres I lived on?
Still I'm going to have my free range eggs and chicks. 
|
You are correct, my mistake.
|

03/18/14, 03:51 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: southern hills of indiana
Posts: 2,541
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Possum Belly
I can assure you and be proud saying it, I ain't or have been city folks. Most of the country folks I have ever known, keep their animals on their property.
|
WE ALREADY KNEW THAT! Most city folks know how to spell Opossum , (But, they don't know what it am!!!!). That's all I wanted to say but I have to add this 'cause this stupid computer keeps telling me the response is too short to post! Have a good!
Wade
|

03/18/14, 04:05 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: southern hills of indiana
Posts: 2,541
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by where I want to
The guy I mentioned with the free range chickens? Came here from San Francisco, stayed for 5 years. The whole "country dream" thing turned out to be too much work- not to mention that he actually had to fix things himself.
Too many people move from town to have the "freedom" of living in the country- by which they mean letting the dog roam it wants so they don't have to clean up poop.
No there just seem to be two kinds of people- not country or city but those who respect their neighbors and those that don't.
|
That's a good take on it but it's not exactly true! Actually I don't hold some of my neighbors in very high esteem,BUT, I learned early on that the only thing I came into this life with was my integrity.I do everything I can think of to not sell my integrity for any reason or any price.Once you sell it,you can never buy it back.The reason for this attitude is simple. It is also the only thing I can leave this life with!
Think about it. I do!
Wade
|

03/18/14, 06:37 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Southwest Wisconsin
Posts: 360
|
|
|
In Wisconsin there is NO public access to private property - fenced or unfenced.
It is just common courtesy to keep your animals on your own property, except for the occasional unintended "escape".
I can't believe some of this that I am reading!!!
|

03/18/14, 06:57 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,230
|
|
|
The comment on Possum, reminded me of the time I was on another site--and mentioned the coons getting in my chickens--my, but I was lambasted for that!! I'm a old country girl-so for awhile I honestly didn't understand...
__________________
In Life, We Weep at the thought of Death'
Who Knows, Perhaps in Death,
We Weep at the though of Life.
|

03/18/14, 07:07 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: southern hills of indiana
Posts: 2,541
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceresone
The comment on Possum, reminded me of the time I was on another site--and mentioned the coons getting in my chickens--my, but I was lambasted for that!! I'm a old country girl-so for awhile I honestly didn't understand...
|
I guess you now know of at least one site you should avoid at all cost huh? I certainly would! My boss once got in trouble when addressing some nurses and using the phrase "you people"!
Wade
|

03/18/14, 07:29 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pawnee Nation, OK
Posts: 2,419
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patchouli
I live in the country and if his chickens spent all day ranging on my property pretty soon they would be in my freezer. I don't know what sort of weird laws you have where you live but most everywhere I have lived I don't have to put up with other people's livestock on my property. My land is for feeding my animals not anyone elses.
|
Am1too lives in Oklahoma. Our laws and rules are the same as everywhere else. Keep your livestock and domesticated animals on your own property. Period. Not only is it the law, it is common courtesy.
__________________
Critical thinking -- the other national deficit
|

03/18/14, 07:34 AM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pawnee Nation, OK
Posts: 2,419
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy
And I can no longer run up and down the creeks, hills, or fields, cause most all the land around here has changed ownership. Previous owners have passed on and the new owners are too selfish to let anyone on. Even if they own 500 acres and don't utilize all the land, they don't want anyone on it for no reason what's so ever.
|
Most likely, one of the reasons is that if somebody gets injured on their land they may get sued. I don't allow anybody on my land either.
__________________
Critical thinking -- the other national deficit
|

03/18/14, 11:15 AM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 8,264
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by VERN in IL
See folks, here is the thing you got to understand, city folks never figure it out. If you don't have it fenced in, locked behind gate, it is public access. My neighbors chickens love to pick n' scratch in my yard, so I put a fence around my Garden where I don't want them. I don't mind the neighbors cow which is in pastures by my property, sometimes the fence breaks and they get out. That is part of life.
Out here in the country, we have fences where they are needed. If you don't have a fence, then expect anything to come in, and out. That is part of reality city dwellers forget, because they have been so removed from the land, and disconnected with nature. A chicken in the flower bed is no reason to bring out the 12 gauge! Our neighbor dogs run free, never ate our other neighbors livestock(seriously dogs?) and we teach
|
It is MY responsibility to keep MY critters on MY property. To do otherwise is, at minimum, bad manners. I believe it is irresponsible. I said nothing about killing any chickens. I said it is bad manners for somebody else to let their chickens eat my garden. It is my responsibility to keep wildlife out of my gardens but it is my neighbor's responsibility to keep his livestock on his property.
I should not have to pay for fencing to keep your birds off my land. Flower gardens might it mean anything to you but mine is very important to me. I do not want ugly fencing right up next to my house.
Personally, I don't mind if my one neighbor's horses or heifers get into my pasture but I do take exception to my other neighbor letting his cattle get through my fencing into my hay field. That is supposed to feed my critters, not his.
What makes you think there is any difference between city and country manners? City folks have much better internet than we do.
__________________
Moms don't look at things like normal people.
-----DD
|

03/18/14, 12:38 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 3,116
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDKatie
It's one thing if the new person complains about chickens on the chicken owner's property. It's totally out of line to expect the new person to accept chickens on HIS land (owned or rented). That is absolutely absurd.
Yes, you totally are. You're saying the renter shouldn't care that someone else is using his property to free-range his chickens. You're saying the chicken owner has the right to use that other property, and if the new guy there doesn't like it, he should move.
And I went back and looked at your posts after Possum mentioned you had a problem with your dog. Your dog was shot by a neighbor because it was on his property. And you still don't think animals should be kept on their own property?
|
Cool. Would you advocate I could shot his horse if I found it stomping and eating my grass? Bet he wouldn't. If a horse is running down the property line I could say its enticing my dog to chase it. That is normal for a dog. Would he have a right to be angry and say my dog was harassing his horse? He probably would. He wanted to sue over a broken $8 dollar fence post. How absurd. No I didn't break it.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 PM.
|
|