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03/16/14, 05:31 PM
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I also have my own authority and am an american carrier not Canadian. See a lot of carriers cutting each other down. And people wonder why the industry is headed into a cesspool.
And yes, if I was approached by an individual, I might even ask for a deposit. Its called a "truck ordered not used" insurance. Just as a carrier might back out, I've had plenty of brokers jerk me around as well.
Shady characters abound in all industries. Caveat emptor still prevails regardless of what one is working on.
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03/16/14, 06:45 PM
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My boy got some bids, 2. One at $460, and another at $480. Just talked to him, and now he figures he will drive at night, and I will drive during the day. Doubt if we will gain a dime on our doing it ourselves, BUT, the owner has no way to load it, no ditch to back in, or ramps to load it with, so we will geter done ourselves. It weighs #500, and it runs as its been restored, so we figure to get it loaded, one way or the other.
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03/16/14, 08:11 PM
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I also have my own authority and am an american carrier not Canadian. See a lot of carriers cutting each other down. And people wonder why the industry is headed into a cesspool.
And yes, if I was approached by an individual, I might even ask for a deposit. Its called a "truck ordered not used" insurance. Just as a carrier might back out, I've had plenty of brokers jerk me around as well.
Shady characters abound in all industries. Caveat emptor still prevails regardless of what one is working on.
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Exactly why I suggest being informed. I can also see asking someone for a deposit, even if we don't, but when a carrier backs down, it is also customary to return the deposit.
Back hauls is always a gray area because the profit margin is slim in trucking, but I'm old school enough to believe that when we give our word, we keep our word.
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03/16/14, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
My boy got some bids, 2. One at $460, and another at $480. Just talked to him, and now he figures he will drive at night, and I will drive during the day. Doubt if we will gain a dime on our doing it ourselves, BUT, the owner has no way to load it, no ditch to back in, or ramps to load it with, so we will geter done ourselves. It weighs #500, and it runs as its been restored, so we figure to get it loaded, one way or the other.
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Bill, you do realize these quotes are under a buck a mile, noway, nohow can you pick it up yourself for that money.
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03/16/14, 08:52 PM
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CR Would you read ALL of post #22
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03/16/14, 09:04 PM
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I did what's your point?
Either a step deck with ramps or I guess a gooseneck with ramps, not sure of the problems.
You apparently have access to neither of these since your going to jury rig a method of loading it.
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03/16/14, 09:10 PM
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No we don't, but was told that IF it has to be hauled with a lift down ramp, that's more expensive
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03/16/14, 09:18 PM
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You said it ran, alot of steps and flat goosenecks have ramps, at that price the driver is trying to build a load off an LTL he has in the area.
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03/16/14, 09:20 PM
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No we don't, but was told that IF it has to be hauled with a lift down ramp, that's more expensive
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500 miles one way, in a truck with what, at best 13 to 15 mpg for gas, no way to get the thing on the truck once you get there. Some really stout 4" by 8" boards might work as a ramp (might), but that is a LOT of weight, then another 500 miles home with lower gas mileage because of the weight!!
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03/16/14, 09:21 PM
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Lift gates are normally on van trailers but there are also rollon rolloff trailers that are specialized and would cost extra. In this case that light a piece of equipment that runs this wouldn't be necessary.
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03/16/14, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
My boy got some bids, 2. One at $460, and another at $480. Just talked to him, and now he figures he will drive at night, and I will drive during the day. Doubt if we will gain a dime on our doing it ourselves, BUT, the owner has no way to load it, no ditch to back in, or ramps to load it with, so we will geter done ourselves. It weighs #500, and it runs as its been restored, so we figure to get it loaded, one way or the other.
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Chances are real good then that the seller doesn't have anyplace for a semi to get in and out of as well. Considering the distance, the bids you were given are normal for an LTL like you described. Yes, I even googled your tractor too. Is there an implement dealer at both ends that would help you out to have the truck load/ unload the tractor. I think that would be your best bet. Check with the local auction houses too to see if they have a list of local carriers that haul tractors as well.
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03/16/14, 09:37 PM
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The seller indicated that he didn't have a convient place to load it. Don't know about any implement dealers there, or anything else there. I doubt if any local auction houses would have local carriers willing to haul out to here.
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03/16/14, 09:42 PM
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Go between has givin me both his and sellers ph#. Go between says that theres a truck picking up loads running from there to OKC.
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What happened with the above, the go between saying there was a company that would haul it??
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03/16/14, 09:51 PM
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The seller indicated that he didn't have a convient place to load it. Don't know about any implement dealers there, or anything else there. I doubt if any local auction houses would have local carriers willing to haul out to here.
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03/16/14, 10:19 PM
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The least expensive way to ship heavy things is Fastenal. Fastenal only ships from their store to another one of their stores but if your guy and you both have Fastenal stores nearby, you can not beat the price. Again, you will have to pick it up at your closest Fastenal
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03/16/14, 10:35 PM
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brew, the owner DOSENT have a way to load it to take it to Fastenal.
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03/16/14, 11:08 PM
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We load in odd places all the time. If the tractor runs, it can be driven onto the trailer and there is no need for it to be done in a cramped yard, you simply need an equipment hauler because their trailers are equipped with ramps.
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03/17/14, 12:32 AM
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We load in odd places all the time. If the tractor runs, it can be driven onto the trailer and there is no need for it to be done in a cramped yard, you simply need an equipment hauler because their trailers are equipped with ramps.
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This thing is an overgrown garden tractor. Nothing that would go on a detachable or an close to a double drop.
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03/17/14, 09:10 AM
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This thing is an overgrown garden tractor. Nothing that would go on a detachable or an close to a double drop.
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This is the old style with the front tires very close together?
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03/17/14, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
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brew, the owner DOSENT have a way to load it to take it to Fastenal.
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c'mon Bill, if yer gonna divide my name, do it in the right place 
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