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AngieM2 02/14/14 11:39 PM

A reminder - this is not General Chat
 
Just wanted to remind you that this is for Questions about Homesteading and how to do it.

If you have topics such as the recently moved threads, please just start them in General Chat as they will end up being moved there as soon as I or one of the other HQ mods see it or receives a report about it.

Thanks

fatrat 02/15/14 08:37 AM

That's really ridiculous Angie. You need to take a chill pill lady. This is just an internet forum. Sometimes you moderators go way overboard. I think we need term limits for moderators. That is just so ridiculous.

Dixie Bee Acres 02/15/14 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fatrat (Post 6960606)
That's really ridiculous Angie. You need to take a chill pill lady. This is just an internet forum. Sometimes you moderators go way overboard. I think we need term limits for moderators. That is just so ridiculous.

Did you really just say that?
Is it really too much trouble to start a thread in the appropriate section?
Much like an auto and truck forum, you wouldn't ask a question about a Chrysler slant 6 engine in a Ford mustang section would you?

arabian knight 02/15/14 09:06 AM

WOW, is all I am saying on that, I can't believe I just read a post like that on here.

ErinP 02/15/14 09:06 AM

And to be fair, sometimes people want to discuss something in a different manner than what they're going to get in GC.
In which case, I would suggest Countryside Families is probably the better bet than GC or homesteading.

It's more of a living-room manners type of conversation, rather than bar-room smokin' and jokin' (as well as snide, nasty comments) that you'll see in GC.

VERN in IL 02/15/14 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fatrat (Post 6960606)
That's really ridiculous Angie. You need to take a chill pill lady. This is just an internet forum. Sometimes you moderators go way overboard. I think we need term limits for moderators. That is just so ridiculous.

I liked his post, NOBODY else has? lol.

Why is GC hidden from the public? How is one to find your post using google? The answer: your not!

GC needs made public again, so it can be searched by others in their favorite search engine!

As it stands only logged in users can view GC, I often view this site as a guest.

The other forums are public, and searchable via your favorite web search, GC needs this enabled, so we can easily find information. I don't post in GC anymore because of that reason alone, nobody but registered/logged in users of this site will see the topic, which isn't that many, which could be an important message to get published.

To encourage the use of GC, it should be made viewable/public to non registered users again.

AngieM2 02/15/14 09:38 AM

GC has always been where one must be logged in to see it. It is not the prime forums of a Homesteading forum. It is not going to change.

And it's not for google searches as it is not the reason for this forum.

Just so you know.

AngieM2 02/15/14 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ErinP (Post 6960645)
And to be fair, sometimes people want to discuss something in a different manner than what they're going to get in GC.
In which case, I would suggest Countryside Families is probably the better bet than GC or homesteading.

It's more of a living-room manners type of conversation, rather than bar-room smokin' and jokin' (as well as snide, nasty comments) that you'll see in GC.

We do not move anything to Countryside Families, so if you want it in that forum, start it in that forum. Just so you'll know.

Best wishes everyone, Spring is on the way and cabin fever should be alleviated.

Unregistered-1427815803 02/15/14 09:54 AM

Moderation seems to be consistent, and in line with the oft-posted guidelines. If the moderation seemed to be favoring one point of view over another, I can see a complaint as valid. Other than that, sometimes you just don't like the way things are.

Sometimes when I go in a place and don't like the way they run their business, I just leave. I don't bother telling them how they put on their show. Lotta other places to patronize.

ErinP 02/15/14 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2 (Post 6960701)
We do not move anything to Countryside Families, so if you want it in that forum, start it in that forum. Just so you'll know.
.

Yeah, thats what i said :)

BamaNana 02/15/14 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fatrat (Post 6960606)
That's really ridiculous Angie. You need to take a chill pill lady. This is just an internet forum. Sometimes you moderators go way overboard. I think we need term limits for moderators. That is just so ridiculous.

:eek: unbelievable.............

Alice In TX/MO 02/15/14 11:30 AM

Newbies just don't understand there are guidelines. :cowboy:

VERN in IL 02/15/14 12:24 PM

I like forums where people can post in peaceful coexistence without being put down. I see that has not changed.

where I want to 02/15/14 12:33 PM

Fatrat is not a newbie. And, even if he has an opinion like that, he didn't have to phrase it in such a rude way.

wr 02/15/14 02:27 PM

This particular forum has always been intended to be used for homesteading questions and as far back as when Cabin Fever moderated it, non related topics were moved to more suitable locations. It has little to do with Angie's preference or any perceived abuse of power.

Ardie/WI 02/15/14 02:33 PM

Now what happened?

The rules for HT haven't changed through all the years I've been here. They are simple and easy to follow.

That's my 2-cents.

JohnP 02/15/14 02:40 PM

I think post #2 was sarcasm.

where I want to 02/15/14 02:43 PM

Sarcasm pointed at whom?

jassar 02/15/14 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatrat (Post 6960606)
That's really ridiculous Angie. You need to take a chill pill lady. This is just an internet forum. Sometimes you moderators go way overboard. I think we need term limits for moderators. That is just so ridiculous.

Wow. you realize that you said that "out loud", right?. "Take a chill pill lady"???....this is just another example of what the anonymity of the internet has done to destroy communication skills. Even if you have a valid point, it will fall on the deaf ears of those that still value treating people with any amount of respect.

There are at least a dozen different ways that you could have made your point without your aggressive and rude tone.

Sad

Paumon 02/15/14 03:13 PM

I never thought of it but I guess I posted my Red Alert topic in the wrong forum then since it's not a question. http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/gen...e-weather.html

Maybe it should be moved to CF forum so everyone on west coast can see it, including those who are not logged in? I can't post it in S&EP and GC is not suitable since it's not a GC topic, not many people read in GC and you have to be logged in to read there anyway.

Or is it okay to stay where it is?

wr 02/15/14 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paumon (Post 6961230)
I never thought of it but I guess I posted my Red Alert topic in the wrong forum then since it's not a question. http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/gen...e-weather.html

Maybe it should be moved to CF forum so everyone on west coast can see it, including those who are not logged in? I can't post it in S&EP and GC is not suitable since it's not a GC topic, not many people read in GC and you have to be logged in to read there anyway.

Or is it okay to stay where it is?


I would consider weather to be homesteading related.

fellini123 02/15/14 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2 (Post 6960358)
Just wanted to remind you that this is for Questions about Homesteading and how to do it.

If you have topics such as the recently moved threads, please just start them in General Chat as they will end up being moved there as soon as I or one of the other HQ mods see it or receives a report about it.

Thanks

Darn, I always miss out on the exciting threads!!!! I need to read more often!!!

Alice in Virginia

belladulcinea 02/15/14 05:48 PM

I would also consider weather related threads to be Survival type threads. A weather heads up is a good thread for S & EP

AngieM2 02/15/14 06:00 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Proof Spring is on the way. Cabin fever is almost over.

Daffodils considering blooming in the next few days.

At the foot of a tree that is in a protected area

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Shows more of the base of the tree.

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and out near the more open area

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Alice In TX/MO 02/15/14 07:55 PM

Our forecast is in the 70s for the next ten days, and I already saw a mosquito!!

watcher 02/15/14 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fellini123 (Post 6961305)
Darn, I always miss out on the exciting threads!!!! I need to read more often!!!

Alice in Virginia

Me too, I usually don't find them until they are, at best locked. And worse deleted. I hate it when they get deleted after I posted something in them and I can't remember what the heck the entire thread is about. My memory is getting so bad that. . .what was I talking about. . .

where I want to 02/15/14 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO (Post 6961664)
Our forecast is in the 70s for the next ten days, and I already saw a mosquito!!

I got buzzed by a mosquito too. Dang thing must have been hanging on waiting for the drought to break. Sheesh in February too.

Shygal 02/15/14 08:51 PM

Well, I figured it would get moved. Its too bad, because some of us cant go in GC, and then get into a discussion elsewhere and poof, its gone to GC

For anyone bothering to read, if you responded to me or asked me a question in the moved threads, I cant go read it, didnt see it, and cant go in GC to continue the discussion, just fyi

Awnry Abe 02/15/14 09:20 PM

I've often wondered why the main forum of HT is about questions. (a question in the form of a statement. Now I am at least legal). I have often had a general homesteading topic that I wanted to discuss, or something I have learned, or an experience I wanted to share--for the benefit of others--but didn't really have any question. I suppose I could be coy and wrap my thread in the form of a question. Most of those threads would have this cover question: "Boy, am I always this stupid?". Sometimes those topics fit neatly in a sub-forum. Sometimes not. When they don't, I just don't bother to post. When they do, but are in the lesser traveled corners of HT, I don't bother. IMHO, this is a problem for HT.

Wendy 02/15/14 09:24 PM

It doesn't actually have to be in the form of a question, it just needs to be homesteading related. The posts that were moved really weren't & are a topic that almost always goes downhill because of the views of the posters. If people could manage to stay civil towards each other & not turn it into an argument, then they might get to stay put.

AngieM2 02/15/14 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Awnry Abe (Post 6961804)
I've often wondered why the main forum of HT is about questions. (a question in the form of a statement. Now I am at least legal). I have often had a general homesteading topic that I wanted to discuss, or something I have learned, or an experience I wanted to share--for the benefit of others--but didn't really have any question. I suppose I could be coy and wrap my thread in the form of a question. Most of those threads would have this cover question: "Boy, am I always this stupid?". Sometimes those topics fit neatly in a sub-forum. Sometimes not. When they don't, I just don't bother to post. When they do, but are in the lesser traveled corners of HT, I don't bother. IMHO, this is a problem for HT.


I can understand that. Those types of posts about homesteading stuff is appropriate. Statement or question. But not everything is really homestead related even when trying to stretch the maybe it could be factor.

It's really not a big deal. If we cannot figure out how it is homesteading "doing it" related, then it goes to the forum where it goes best. Right now GC is the catch all of extra topics. That is what it was made for, and what it needs to be used for.

I just wanted to remind people so they would not be surprised when it happened. I figured telling members before it happened would explain when it did happen.

And for those that do not go into GC or cannot get into GC, do not use another forum for a substitute. That does not work.

And this will help the new people know this, many join each day and would not know unless told.

Shygal 02/15/14 10:19 PM

I know Angie, I don't do that. The most volatile subject I ever started a thread about was the one about Coach purses in CF :D

bertneru 02/15/14 11:04 PM

I'm not gonna take sides, but my hat down to Angie...you responded with tact and even tried to change the subject in a positive way!
Angie, you are indeed a LADY. As far as I'm concerned, you can always be my moderator :)

Fire-Man 02/15/14 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AngieM2 (Post 6961825)
And for those that do not go into GC or cannot get into GC, do not use another forum for a substitute. That does not work.

Being this is mentioned here---I will ask my question here.

Why would someone not be able to get into GC? Can you get banned from just GC? I am Lost!

AngieM2 02/15/14 11:45 PM

Yes, it is not used very often and not usually advertised, a person can be blocked from a specific forum if they are good elsewhere but a do not do so well in a particular forum. It is a way to keep a member that might occur infractions as they get very passionate on a subject and may over step the boundaries here.

And some people do not want the posts there to come up on new posts and that blocking of a forum keeps that from happening.

So not all here that say they are blocked are that way due to trouble.

Unregistered-1427815803 02/16/14 06:58 AM

I have seen many people, some even in the deleted threads, who, during hard times, ended up with exactly the subject of those 2 threads. Those people were real, live homesteader types. as much as most of the people in this forum who don't actually homestead full time, but have some interest in it. So, if it helped those homesteaders, then, I suppose it was as much homestead related as, say, well, look at the first page of subject headings. How is it that something that many of our members have used, in reality, not as important to homesteaders as some questions by people who are just "what if"ing?

As an example, if I were to wonder, and ask, how can I direct snow off my roof, then pump into a holding tank for use in late summer? that would be a real question, because a real homesteader wanted to know. On the other hand, when someone ask "Will my peppers cross with my hot peppers and ruin the entire crop?" that is a specious question, ask by someone with no gardening experience, no understanding of genetics, and no ability to use either google nor the library. However, we see the same question time after time.

In summation, the subject of the 2 deleted threads most definitely relates to some, even many of our co-members. All of whom have the same interests in homesteading.
Everybody can't live the life some of us do. Single women with children are particularly hard pressed to get by, much less buy a few acres, cut down trees, pull up stumps, build a house, plant a garden, get by on deer meat and vegetables, all while raising their children without any child support. My preference is that those people get equal support as the more aggressive members, who, none-the-less are also not on a farm.

Just my opinion of course. And it probably don't work for many people. However, one thing I can tell you, to paraphrase what I was told in a thread recently. "I remember when this was a country where you could have an opinion that was not the same as mine, and it could be heard" Which is generally true in the HT question forum, but in General Chat, you get shouted down if you think outside the box. Or, did last time I was there.

gnatgnome 02/16/14 07:17 AM

Angie,

Thanks for all you and the other moderators do to keep this site running and helping us all. Like all families we have our arguments but in the end we are family and need each other. We are the family we have chosen not the family we were born to.

Belfrybat 02/16/14 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shygal (Post 6961756)
Well, I figured it would get moved. Its too bad, because some of us cant go in GC, and then get into a discussion elsewhere and poof, its gone to GC

For anyone bothering to read, if you responded to me or asked me a question in the moved threads, I cant go read it, didnt see it, and cant go in GC to continue the discussion, just fyi

??? The thread was moved to current events. Can't everyone get into that section?

Jolly 02/16/14 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ErinP (Post 6960645)
And to be fair, sometimes people want to discuss something in a different manner than what they're going to get in GC.
In which case, I would suggest Countryside Families is probably the better bet than GC or homesteading.

It's more of a living-room manners type of conversation, rather than bar-room smokin' and jokin' (as well as snide, nasty comments) that you'll see in GC.

Maybe.

A couple of weeks ago in CF, I used as a pronoun the common name for a male donkey. That thread was pulled for cursing and I received my obligatory warning.

After reading through some of the graphic "female problem" threads that crop up every now and then in that venue, I just kinda shake my head and go on.

So keep in mind, that while CS follows a somewhat different discussion format, it does have its rules.

Irish Pixie 02/16/14 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Belfrybat (Post 6962161)
??? The thread was moved to current events. Can't everyone get into that section?

Nope, I can't. I can't see GC, politics, or any of part of the "survivor" forum. I'm self banned from the "Alternative Health" forum cuz, in my opinion, someone is going to die from the "advice."


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