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hengal 02/12/14 08:51 PM

Upcoming summer weather?
 
Ok, our winter has been long, bitter cold, very snowy and windy.basically pretty tough.... like many others on here. Now I keep hearing that the upcoming summer is supposed to be one of the hottest on record, due to the same thing that caused this winter. Has anyone seen what the almanac says? It was pretty spot on for winter. Just curious about the coming season.

fishhead 02/12/14 10:02 PM

Our weather has moved to one of extremes so I'm expecting another horribly humid hot summer where I hate to do anything outside.

The past 2 summers have started out with too much rain followed by no rain for months and humidity that leaves a person sweating even when the temp is 70 degrees.

Echoesechos 02/12/14 10:17 PM

If you go to Almanac dot com, you can get two months free in their long range weather. What is an added bonus is the year long chart on the bottom. Gives a fairly accurate overview per month. We have followed this for over ten years at work. Just have to figure out your zone by their map. We sit on the cusp of two but choose the one that is closer to us weather wise.

SFM in KY 02/13/14 08:09 AM

I hope not. Summers are absolute misery for me here in KY anyway, as I am totally unable to tolerate the heat and humidity so all summer, when I should be the busiest, I have to be in the house, in the A/C by 10 AM or so ... or be ill. No other options.

MichaelZ 02/13/14 08:13 AM

I wonder if some of the polar ice cap will freeze back up? I think one factor causing more extremes might be warmer oceans from a diminished ice cap. If there is a refreeze and cooling of the oceans, perhaps the weather might settle back down. Hope so. Of course this is all speculation. Weather is an incredibly complex phenomena that is very difficult to model and predict.

Peggy 02/13/14 10:39 AM

no doubt, it will probably be hot enough to fry an egg outside this summer. then everyone who was complaining about the cold winter will complain about the hot summer! (that will be my daughter and husband!)

haypoint 02/13/14 11:30 AM

Most of th earth is covered in water. Water controls our weather. The change in pacific ocean temperatures caused the warmth to push north into Alaska, cutting off rain for California and pushing arctic air down into the eastern US.
Right now, over 80% of the Great Lakes is covered in thick ice. That will limit the snow for the rest of the winter, due to less moisture evaporating off the Lakes. But that also means less clouds, which of course means more sunny days.
I suspect we will have a dryer and hotter summer than normal, unless we get a major volcanic eruption. After Mt. St. Helen, we had a cold summer due to all the ash.
In 60 days all the snow will be gone from the fields of Michigan.

Paumon 02/13/14 01:15 PM

I've been looking at the almanac summer predictions for various regions on the continent. They all say the same thing. Forecasting hotter than normal.

For the past 5 or 6 years there have been extreme climate events and records broken all over the globe and they are still happening with no indication that there's going to be any let up. 2013 was exceptional and now it would appear that 2014 is well on its way to trying to out do 2013. Check out the 2013 global timeline at the link below, just place your cursor over any orange +


http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/en...12-23_22:30:15!

I think it's time for people everywhere to start accepting the fact that extreme seasonal climate and weather events have become the norm and everyone needs to plan ahead for worst eventualities for each season ahead.

Forerunner 02/13/14 01:32 PM

I just checked the long term forecast, and reports have it that the entire Northern Hemisphere will be experiencing a massive warming, not in the least unprecedented, starting now....roughly..... and increasing through mid-August to the first of September, roughly.....peaking at that time and then leveling for an indeterminate period of days or weeks.

I and mine are appropriately panicked and running in ever-tightening circles with our hands waiving excitedly over our heads as we anticipate the opportunity thus afforded to engage in all manner of outdoor activities.... such as swimming, pulling weeds and swatting mosquitoes.









Somebody stop me.

haypoint 02/13/14 02:19 PM

No matter how hot the summer or cold the winter, my fields will be clear of snow April 15. The smelt will run before the end of April and we'll have a forecast of rain every third day during hay season. The County Fair, held around Labor Day will sell more hot chocolate than Coke, marking the end of summer. There will be some snow on the ground for Halloween, but it won't stay. November and early December will rain until everyone begs it stop. Then the rain stops. Snows every other day until everyone begs it to stop snowing. By early February, it stops snowing. Temperatures drop to 20 below for a couple weeks. Everyone begs for a warm up. It does and the snow returns.
Then everyone begs that the snow goes away and in late March, we get a thaw, temps into the 50s and a couple inches of rain. That wet snow buckles the roof on everyone's tin shed and the rain floods the pasture and washes out the driveway.
By May the weather is great, just right for yard work. But the tiny biting no-see-ums, black flies drive you nuts. June, July and August are mostly dry, high in the 80s during the day, 50s at night.

lmrose 02/13/14 03:35 PM

We have learned after many years of farming and gardening we have to be very adaptable both to weather and wildlife. There has always been in our life time extremes of weather often in twenty year cycles of extreme winter and extreme summer temperatures. Then it would be hardly no winter and not much sun which we have just come out of in 2013. Now it seems we are back to extreme winter. We will see what this summer brings. Last summer was almost non-existent last year. It was a grey winter, not much snow, a grey Spring with not much sun and a grey summer and fall. We could count the sunny days on ten fingers for the whole year!

Realizing the atmosphere is changing and not for the better we adapted how we garden and farm. First we cut all hay eating animals down to a basic minimum that we need for food. In our case that is two goats because even in the worse of summer we can manage to make hay for two goats and they provide milk for yogurt, cheese and to drink as well as meat. We are trying to keep the work horse until he lives out his natural life and we did manage to make enough hay to keep him fed over the winter and had to buy 25 bales extra. When he goes he won't be replaced unless it it is by a very small pony that can work in the garden.
We cut the hens to twelve as we can raise enough wheat, turnips and cabbage to keep them fed.

Then the vegetable garden has been down sized and planted in raised beds. This makes it easier to water in a dry year and add compost. In a wet year it is easier to mulch and drain if everything is in beds. Also an electric fence is around the perimeter to keep out deer.
What we learned is small intensive gardening is easier to control the climate and soil and wildlife rather than big row gardens like we used to plant. Also a small hot house has a lot of growing space and it is easier to control problems such as aphids, mold and rot rather than having a big hot house.Smaller is better.
With harsher weather coming having a smaller, insulated house is also an asset. This we are working on still when we find somewhere to go.
All indications are that severe unpredictable weather patterns will continue over the next several years so we are preparing now. Downsizing is a must for us.

topofmountain 02/13/14 04:00 PM

I don't know how it can get much hotter than last summer. We had an extended monsoon season that we never thought would end. Rain & more rain flooding roads washed out. The best was 115+ days with an 40%+ humidity.
Then it seemed like it went from Summer to Winter. It seemed a 100 degrees one day to 50-60s the next.

This has really been the nicest month we have had. Suppose to be getting into the mid to high 80s by the weekend & into next week.

Our Homestead in the Mountains is lacking snow. It has been very dry, even up to the 9000' level. Water will be an issue this summer.

cindy71 02/13/14 05:18 PM

Bring on summer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Elie May 02/13/14 07:30 PM

The hotter the better for me…. I'm so tired of being cold!:spinsmiley:

milkman 02/13/14 07:58 PM

It's always hot and humid here starts in April last till October . I will welcome it this year, had enough cold, wet, snow and wind. Bring on the heat!

botanygal 02/20/14 11:55 AM

Check out weather.gov for long-range forecasts. Specifically http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/l3mto.php and http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/

ronbre 02/20/14 11:59 AM

the almanac has a wet summer forcasted..which would be opposite of the droughts we have had for the last 3 years..so I hope it is correct..(of course I'm not in a high flood area)..I just hated the droughts.

I walked by a creek yesterday after 2 days of thawing and it was still so low that a gravel/sand bar was still sticking up that would normally be under water

ronbre 02/20/14 12:02 PM

also about the polar ice cap..i heard on the news that there is 83 percent more ice on the arctic than there has been for the past several years..no worries

Ziptie 02/20/14 01:08 PM

I don't know about summer weather but this weather is just strange. It has been sooo cold and lots of snow(not to strange for Iowa). BUT....it has been raining off and on all night. Yes raining. We still have snow drifts that I would loose my children in.

Later today...still can't see the ground because of all the snow. Now we have thunder and lighting and water pooling in places.:smack

ok..now the weather alarms are going off. Apparently were in for some quarter size hail. Did I also mention it was a little bit foggy too. Just throw in a tornado and well have 4 seasons of weather in one convent package.

haypoint 02/20/14 03:38 PM

I heard today that worldwide, the past 6 months have been warmer than average.

But I also heard that Siberian prisoners had seen the weather for Michigan and were laughing.......

calliemoonbeam 02/20/14 05:00 PM

As unusually cold as this winter has been, I'll still take it over an Oklahoma summer any day! The good news about the winter is that it's been so cold that most of the precipitation we had, which would usually be ice, was snow, so that was great, I could use more winters like that. And hopefully the extreme cold killed off some bugs!!

Summers, however, are pure misery, and it's usually too hot for six months and I, like SFM, have to be in the house most of the day or be very ill. It's really hard to get gardening and other outside chores done at night or before 10 a.m., lol! :) It really doesn't even cool down much at night, maybe to 85-90, and that's still really too hot with the humidity added.

Have I mentioned lately how much I despise Oklahoma? I'm sure most of the old-timers are tired of hearing me say it, lol!

kimmom2five 02/20/14 05:49 PM

I don't know what the almanac says but usually when we have had a cold snowy winter we have a mild summer after that.

arabian knight 02/20/14 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haypoint (Post 6968507)
I heard today that worldwide, the past 6 months have been warmer than average.

But I also heard that Siberian prisoners had seen the weather for Michigan and were laughing.......

Well I am getting close to 10 inches of Heavy Wet Snow. 18 miles North of me a K-Mart roof partially collapsed, no one was hurt, and I am sure that is one of more to come yet tonight it is 32 degrees and snowing like a blizzard, Heavy stuff, I hav equate a few branches down around he yard that I can see, but I am sure aI will have more by AM.
This is really going to work the snowblower~!

big rockpile 02/20/14 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calliemoonbeam (Post 6968605)
As unusually cold as this winter has been, I'll still take it over an Oklahoma summer any day! The good news about the winter is that it's been so cold that most of the precipitation we had, which would usually be ice, was snow, so that was great, I could use more winters like that. And hopefully the extreme cold killed off some bugs!!

Summers, however, are pure misery, and it's usually too hot for six months and I, like SFM, have to be in the house most of the day or be very ill. It's really hard to get gardening and other outside chores done at night or before 10 a.m., lol! :) It really doesn't even cool down much at night, maybe to 85-90, and that's still really too hot with the humidity added.

Have I mentioned lately how much I despise Oklahoma? I'm sure most of the old-timers are tired of hearing me say it, lol!

Oh I remember sleeping in back of a Pickup with a Shell couple nights down town Muskogee middle of Summer, two most miserable nights of my life.

No I would say temperatures will average out so it should be hotter this Summer.

big rockpile

Grandmotherbear 02/22/14 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calliemoonbeam (Post 6968605)
As unusually cold as this winter has been, I'll still take it over an Oklahoma summer any day! The good news about the winter is that it's been so cold that most of the precipitation we had, which would usually be ice, was snow, so that was great, I could use more winters like that. And hopefully the extreme cold killed off some bugs!!

Summers, however, are pure misery, and it's usually too hot for six months and I, like SFM, have to be in the house most of the day or be very ill. It's really hard to get gardening and other outside chores done at night or before 10 a.m., lol! :) It really doesn't even cool down much at night, maybe to 85-90, and that's still really too hot with the humidity added.

Have I mentioned lately how much I despise Oklahoma? I'm sure most of the old-timers are tired of hearing me say it, lol!

I'm in the HOT WEATHER IS LIABLE TO KILL ME club too, and I am so tired of people who don't have physiological reactions to heat assuring me that I too can learn to live without air conditioning.
We didn't turn the AC off till almost New Years, and have had had it on for a day or two at a time back in the city.
I told GFB last autumn that I would be leaving FL during the peak of the summer heat and humidity this summer. Still trying to figure out where to go...

fishhead 02/23/14 07:59 AM

If it weren't for the heat and humidity I would move south but it's just miserable when it's hot and humid. I got used to the heat and humidity of AL when I was in my 30's but I don't know if my body can still adapt to that kind of stress.

Last week it got into the low 40's and I got down to my tee shirt and even took that off for the last mile of the hike. It was pushing it but the sun was strong and that made it tolerable.

We're headed down to more -20 nights this week so when it gets above zero it doesn't seem too bad as long as it's not windy.

Yvonne's hubby 02/23/14 08:46 AM

We have had a fairly mild winter so far... ask me again in september about summer. :)

frogmammy 02/23/14 08:56 AM

Michigan in the summer, Florida in the winter. Now we know why snowbirds do what they do!

Mon

VERN in IL 02/23/14 09:22 AM

Summer weather? We still got spring people!

I'm hoping for a long spring with above normal rain.

One thing for sure, it WILL NOT BE AS BUGGY. Thanks to the brutal cold.

poppy 02/23/14 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VERN in IL (Post 6972215)
Summer weather? We still got spring people!

I'm hoping for a long spring with above normal rain.

One thing for sure, it WILL NOT BE AS BUGGY. Thanks to the brutal cold.

Hope you're right but last week I saw several flies outside on those warm days. Also saw a spider climbing the post to my mailbox. It's amazing what insects can survive.

Ardie/WI 02/23/14 10:03 AM

I feel it in my bones that we are going to have a cooler than average Spring and wetter too.

Don't be too much in a hurry to start those seeds in the house!


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