I Just Don't Understand People

Who spends that amount of time?
It took me less then 10 minutes in a personal interview and that is all it took.
All I had to bring in was what I paid over a year in electric bills, which all I had to do is one call to the electric company, and they sent me the printed out list, and proof as to what I get a month in SS payments. That was it, less then 10 minutes, and I was out the door, with less then one minute wait time at the beginning too. LOL

__________________
Oh my, dishes yet to wash and dry

See My Pictures at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/0903/arabianknight/

I was trying to estimate on the long side.

Same goes for food stamps. Why plant a garden when the government gives you food stamps?

WWW

__________________
If the grass looks greener it is probably over the septic tank. - troy n sarah tx

Our existance here is soley for the expoitation of CMG

Here is what I don't understand. People whine about not having heat. Come to my mill on a good hot Summer day bring a pair of gloves and pull boards. I will give you the slabs and if you don't have a truck we will throw them on mine and I will haul them to your home.
The problem is people want to complain and have me Buy the logs cut their fire wood bring it to them and then complain that the world is against them.
Here's the deal in the summer I burn enough firewood to heat 10 houses I don't apologize for it at all. You either root hog or die.
Before you get mad and high handed if there is a needy family that I'm told about I have and will continue to cut and deliver for free.

__________________
Follow me at [url]http://www.haneyfamilysawmill.com

you can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink..... we have offer many people (who complain about the price of veggies at the store) to come get free veggies from our very large garden, well let me tell you no one has shown up yet. they have a bad back, or they dont have time,, always an excuse but if we pick it boy they would be first in line. My hubby picked beans for 4 yours one day and he is 71 years old. So guess what I canned every bean....

Agreed. Often it's the folks who don't complain, that need it the most. And using the church to let them know is certainly one of the best ways to do it.

You should gut your deer right after you shoot it where it lays.

Heres a couple ten buck grinders I found on Maryland CL that have worked for 50 years and will probably work another 50

http://altoona.craigslist.org/for/4331357986.html

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...326270667.html

He said people wanted the wood cut split and delivered. But he didn't say they wanted it for free.

I didn't say anything about people wanting wood for free. I asked if people were aware of the free resources available. We have many similar inexpensive, free or labour intensive options up here but very few people are aware they are available.

Thanks, I didn't mean to include the entrails in my earlier post.

And those would be nice meat grinders, but the first one is about 5 hours away and the second is about 2.5 hrs away.

I see those kinds of grinders out at the sale I go to almost every month.

Not all poor people that apply for food stamps or HEAP are lazy. I don't take offense, but then again, I'm too ill to work outside the home and my husband went 14 years on knees his ortho says he shouldn't be able to walk on. Why grow food when the guv'mnt gives you stamps? Because some of us get a fraction of what others do. $300 for a family of 7, thanks. We coupon and stretch it until it bleeds.

HEAP? $650. One fill up of propane is more than that. We cut wood, help neighbors cut and stack so we end up with people dropping some off when they feel like it. We never, ever ask for money for doing things...that isn't neighborly!

I used a hand held flower rake/how to break ground for my garden. I don't have a tiller. We buy the things needed to homestead a bit at the time. Sometimes people don't make excuses for any other reason than they're really unable to do something in their particular situation.

Judge not and all that.

I didn't read through all the pages on this thread but wanted to say that sometimes there are reasons for the lack of people at the permit office. I see ads on CL families asking for free firewood and offers of free firewood on the same page. When we give something for free, it seems it is usually still on the tree and has to be cut down, like in the OP and something as basic as transportation is not available. Hard to take advantage of free things if you can't get to it. They wouldn't even be able to go to church if they wanted to so would even lose out on the opportunity to ask for help in extended communities. My own situation prevents me from hauling for someone else right now. I hope that will change and can take a more physical approach to giving and bartering even.

Our country allows convenience. Many freedoms have been depleted but our govt. still likes for us to take it easy. Even if it has to pay for it.

__________________
Tiny Forest ~ my tiny blog

If you were here I would enjoy the company while we got you wood. Like I said I am happy to help but as (Yes a Family Member) sttod in the shade and watched me work at 95 degrees to finish a job and get paid then walked out into the heat and ask to borrow the money I had just made NO.

__________________
Follow me at [url]http://www.haneyfamilysawmill.com

I find the OP's assessment full of arrogance and judgement and made without critical assessment of credible reasons for people not taking advantage of what he sees as an obvious answer to home heating.

With the OP's supposed problems with insuring a home with wood heat one would presume the OP has the most obvious reason right on the tip of his tongue: Not everyone has wood heat.

Of course it is much easier to come here on HT and post in a manner that makes him seem both morally and intellectually superior to the unfortunate, lazy dolts that populate his part of the world.

Of course, I'm sure he'll pray about it at church today, though.

Facts are facts. What is happening to the country is real. The entitlement mentality is real. Once again, I am a firm believer in helping those in need, the elderly, the infirmed, the young, etc. I support people being helped for short term till they get on their feet. But we just retired from a business that dealt with public aide recipients and frankly I bit my tongue more than once when one of them bragged about their upcoming Australian vacation or how many Xbox 360s they got the kids for Christmas, or drove up in their brand new SUV while we are driving 20+ year old diesel autos to economize. We gave over 600,000 dollars in services to public aide recipients in our 34 years of business. I only had one sincerely thank me for our time and trouble.

If you think I am exaggerating,lying or pointing fingers, sorry you are living as an uninformed citizen and need to stop listening to the low information news casts that are telling you about Clothes Week in New York instead of what is really happening in the world. Have you been following the news story with Pelosi saying that people shouldn't be job-locked but should be free to follow their passions? If that isn't telling people that they don't need to work for their daily bread and somebody will be around to take care of them then I don't know what is.

When the F5 tornado hit Joplin several years ago you didn't hear about people sitting around waiting for FEMA to come bail them out. Missourians went to work immediately to help their neighbors down in the southern part of the state while in New Jersey they were still waiting for FEMA to show up and clean up after Hurricane Sandy.

Yes, God does help those who help themselves. But first people have to be willing to help themselves and that means working for whatever it is that they need be it a paycheck or free firewood.

Oh wait a minute, I can't call it a paycheck. I was in a store once and overheard a man tell another man, 'oh I can't afford that right now, I gotta wait for my paycheck the first of the month.' Guy looked like he was eating well, not limping,young, could have had some non obvious health problem but I doubt it. He was talking about his public aid check which comes to recipients the first of each month.

Call me sarcastic? Okay. Call me cynical. Definitely but I've been made that way through exposure observing and working with what is happening to the country because of the entitlement mentality.

I don't find anything arrogant or judgmental in any post written on this thread. Some times the truth does hurt.

__________________
I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here!

You're just assuming he meant public assistance. My BIL is a teacher and gets paid on the first of each month...but you'd assume if you heard him say that he was on public assistance. You know what they say about assuming...

I'm not going to quibble with you or draw you a picture although if I described this individual you would understand what I was saying. YES he was talking about his IDPA check. I was there you weren't and I wouldn't think of calling you a name, even implied. This person was NOT a school teacher. I dealt with many fine and dedicated school teachers down through the years who paid their own bills on time and never asked for any handouts.

Once again, the truth hurts.

__________________
I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here!

Please remember the 'Be Nice" rule. As in don't go making snipping smart comment back at someone during an argument.

__________________
"Live your life, and forget your age." Norman Vincent Peale