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02/07/14, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI
Iffen a person doesn't have the sense to know that it's cold out there, they should be outside! Common sense!
To me, it's just the media trying to stir up the hysterical masses!
The other morning, I told DH that now that the news media had everyone all worried about the propane shortage, they are going to start on a firewood shortage. Sure enough, that night they were! Blah, blah, blah, just about the time a double truck full of wood drove by on the way to the sawmill! 
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Some people have to work outside regardless of the cold and/or windchill, no choice.
You do realize that unless it is being burnt in an outside wood burner firewood needs to be seasoned, right? Seasoned for at least six months and preferably a year. There very well could be a shortage of seasoned firewood- that's just common sense!
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02/07/14, 10:29 AM
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Im not sure if I remember them talking about wind chill back in grade school or not. I didnt pay attention to weather reports then as we never got out of school anyways. Ive worked outside in NE Kans when it was -24 with wind chill.
Bout 6 mos ago, the weather men here started goiong on the far side of scaring people cause people didnt take them seriously when they said posible tornados, and we got hit bad last spring.
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02/07/14, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by farmerDale
Of course windchill doesn't matter in Oregon or Missouri. But where it actually gets cold, it certainly does matter. Up here today for example it was -24C. But it was WINDY. The windchill made it feel like -45C. If I dressed like it was the air temp. of -24C, I would have some issues. But I dressed like it was a felt temperature of -45, and it was not too bad.
I think that is why they have WC values up here. Down there, I have no idea why they have them. It has to be cold to have much impact on skin freezing etc...
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Much about Missouri do ya? I've seen it colder than your -24C=-13F  !
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02/07/14, 11:49 AM
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I think you missed his point.
-13º was the actual temp, but the example windchill was -49º (-45ºC)
Undoubtedly it does get that cold occasionally in MO. But definitely not very often for those of you down in the Ozarks...
Good heavens, the Ozarks are well south of me, and we have pretty mild winters here in northern Kansas.
To be sure, it's not as often as Saskatchewan and apparently not often enough for some residents to understand the importance of knowing windchill readings!
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02/07/14, 12:07 PM
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If you don't know why windchill is important than you don't live somewhere that it matters. Though with the changing weather patterns you just may learn the had way.
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02/07/14, 02:49 PM
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I'm mostly with the opening poster. I exclusively bike to work (in Wisconsin). And honestly, the temperature is far more important than the wind chill. Mostly the wind chill just serves to freak people out - I'm getting rather sick of the "oh-my-goodness-so-cold-don't-go-outside-you'll-die" thing. I find I can dress much more appropriately based on the temperature than the windchill, if I pay attention to the wind chill I just end up over-dressed and it is not fun to overdress and start sweating profusely in the winter. The wind certainly plays a part in how cold it feels, but not nearly so much as people seem to think.
I've biked to work on the -20 degree days this year during the period where the weather service is issuing the warnings to avoid going outside at all costs. My face isn't entirely covered, and sometimes my scarf was down off of my face entirely because I was warm enough that I didn't need it (I usually switch between having it up & down throughout my ride) - didn't get frostbite. It was a bit cold, but no frostbite.
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02/08/14, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Much about Missouri do ya? I've seen it colder than your -24C=-13F  !
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My point was not about whether it EVER got cold in Missouri;
I know enough about Missouri, that IF it does get that cold, it does not last for three months at a time. Relief is always in sight. I used to know a guy from Missouri. We called him the man from Missouri.  He used to laugh about our weather, and could not imagine it... Always asked how our permafrost was doing! lol
I mean your normal highs are in the 40's in Feb. For us, that happens sometime in April. Blech!
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02/08/14, 01:50 PM
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Heck - its often -40F - when I watch Alaska The Last Frontier - I doesn't bother me one bit -
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02/08/14, 02:11 PM
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My heated cattle waterer is ok at below zero temps. Add wind and it can freeze on top and I worry more. My exposed face and ear tips know.
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02/08/14, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bret
My heated cattle water is ok at below zero temps. Add wind and it can freeze on top and I worry more. My exposed face and ear tips know.
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Yes it is a good thing to know just what the wind speed is, verses the temperature. And this windchill has been reported for years at least in WI. and now that some cold fronts have gotten way down South and terribly cold at that, where folks are not used to such temps and for sure not at extended periods of time like has been happening this year it is very important fact when doing a weather report for such areas. Maybe it doesn't mean very much to those that spend time outside a lot, but for years now more and ore folks do not spend that much time outside in the cold if at all, except to go from car to the mall etc. and as the baby boomers get older and spend more time inside that they did in their younger years it does matter and it is Those Folks as well that it IS important to.
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02/08/14, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Much about Missouri do ya? I've seen it colder than your -24C=-13F  !
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Yes I was wondering the same this is normal anymore.
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02/09/14, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
Im not sure if I remember them talking about wind chill back in grade school or not. I didnt pay attention to weather reports then as we never got out of school anyways. Ive worked outside in NE Kans when it was -24 with wind chill.
Bout 6 mos ago, the weather men here started goiong on the far side of scaring people cause people didnt take them seriously when they said posible tornados, and we got hit bad last spring.
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Back when I was in grade school, the weathermen wrote the forecast on the sides of dinosaurs with wet ashes and sent them to spread the news!
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02/09/14, 11:36 AM
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I was thinking of this thread this morning while doing chores. The -25c actual temperature is reasonable for normal winter attire but the -45c with wind chill means that exposed skin will freeze within moments. Unfortunately, I can't sit in the house and stay warm so I dressed in a way that allowed me to be outside safely and comfortably for about 2 hours.
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02/09/14, 11:38 AM
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I need to know the windchill or risk turning my children into Kidsicles when they walk to the bus.
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02/09/14, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wr
I was thinking of this thread this morning while doing chores. The -25c actual temperature is reasonable for normal winter attire but the -45c with wind chill means that exposed skin will freeze within moments. Unfortunately, I can't sit in the house and stay warm so I dressed in a way that allowed me to be outside safely and comfortably for about 2 hours.
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Exactly! Common sense (at least here is Wisconsin) tells us to dress like that and cover exposed skin! We do it. Our neighbors do it!
A bit of drift: I was concerned about a neighbor going to the barn in the evening in this weather. She is alone and all it would take is a slip and a fall to be a disaster. She and our other neighbor have rigged up a system where they call each other and they both go and tend their livestock at the same time! Then, the first one in the house calls the other to let her know that she is safe and the second one does the same. Great idea!
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02/09/14, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ardie/WI
Exactly! Common sense (at least here is Wisconsin) tells us to dress like that and cover exposed skin! We do it. Our neighbors do it!
A bit of drift: I was concerned about a neighbor going to the barn in the evening in this weather. She is alone and all it would take is a slip and a fall to be a disaster. She and our other neighbor have rigged up a system where they call each other and they both go and tend their livestock at the same time! Then, the first one in the house calls the other to let her know that she is safe and the second one does the same. Great idea!
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That all kinda conflicts with your earlier suggestion that people just stay inside when it's cold.
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