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Old 01/28/14, 01:33 PM
 
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In the mid 50s we had an elderly neighbor that grew a small patch and made his own chew. If I remember correctly when the harvested tobacco reached the ripeness and moisture he wanted he coarsely shredded it, augered 1X4 inch holes in a good sized live sugar maple limb and pounded the hole full of the shredded leaf as tightly as he could.

After it had been in there long enough he cut off the limb, cut it into chunks and split out the plugs. This is approximately how he did it, been too long for me to remember all of the details exactly. Never heard of anything like it, before or since. And I for darn sure never tried it.
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Old 01/28/14, 07:32 PM
 
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In the mid 50s we had an elderly neighbor that grew a small patch and made his own chew. If I remember correctly when the harvested tobacco reached the ripeness and moisture he wanted he coarsely shredded it, augered 1X4 inch holes in a good sized live sugar maple limb and pounded the hole full of the shredded leaf as tightly as he could.

After it had been in there long enough he cut off the limb, cut it into chunks and split out the plugs. This is approximately how he did it, been too long for me to remember all of the details exactly. Never heard of anything like it, before or since. And I for darn sure never tried it.
One of my uncles told of a man that done twisted tobacco sorta like that. He bored similar sized toles in blocks of green sweetgum, packed the baccer in with a tamper, and then sealed it with a dry peg. My uncle said that the wood would dry and shrink and "press" the baccer and then the old feller would split it out as he wanted it.

You are the only other person, other than my uncle that I've known to tell about fixin baccer like this.
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Old 01/29/14, 09:34 PM
 
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Heard it was always a good idea to wear gloves when harvesting them because apparently you can get nicotine poisoning from handling the leaves barehanded.
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Old 01/29/14, 10:16 PM
 
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Some folks do get sick, especially when suckering and topping. I got a cousin that did, and she can't go in my uncles grapevines, she breaks out in a rash, has repiratory reaction.
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Old 01/30/14, 03:13 AM
 
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Soulsurvivor I think we both getting a little rusty ,maybe we should plant about 20 acres

Didn't youall burn that plant bead first ? Those things you hang tobacco on are called tear poles .
We had a later model setter it took the plants in rubber covered jaws and set the plants . If that tractor driver got in a hurry you better be fast cause those fingers came up and by quite fast . Now these guys run four row setters

Trust me about that stuff right out of the barn being stouter and anyone with a good nose can smell it burning from that quarter mile too . Wish I had some I would send it to you and you could bribe someone into smoking it . Bad as i need money I would hate to smoke a pipe full in one setting for twenty bucks .

Few years back I worked the barn some because the guy was short handed ,but have hid the last few years . I also worked some one winter In the warehouse unloading trucks on the buying floor . Now that is some work putting it on those baskets as they called them . That stuff had to be in a certain way ,each row did . Another thing gone forever though .

Now here all tobacco is contract grown . Guys planting ten to forty acres of the stuff .

Now how they fire it ,those barns are real tight some of the new barns may have a few vents at the top . After the tobacco is hung and let wilt on down some they dig trenches in the floor and fill with slab wood and cover with sawdust lots of it . They leave a few bare spots so they can light the slab wood ,and once it starts burning they close the doors and it will smolder and burn right along . Sometimes that green tobacco will form a gas in the top of the barn if they don't guess the time to start the fires just right and the whole thing will go up in flames .

They keep firing the tobacco until they get to color they want lots of times it is real bright and waxy feeling or dark and waxy .That is the process for dark fired I think this goes for snuff and chewing .
Yep, yep, yep, nope. We didn't ever fire tobacco. It had to dry naturally and then come back in case for stripping. The entire stalk was cut and speared onto the stick for hanging in the barn. When it came in case we took down the sticks of tobacco and moved it all to the stripping parlor. We graded and tied hands for "ties" "colors" and "tips". We didn't get real caught up in dividing out the hands anymore than that.

The only time our tobacco touched a nice basket was at the tobacco warehouse. We removed the tied hands from the sticks, keeping the 3 grades separated and placed the hands in the baskets provided by the warehouse.The tobacco buyers never seemed to have a problem with our simple grading. We took our sticks home to use the next crop. The tobacco seeding bed was burned in the late winter and we did this as a "last" thing to the process. The bed could finish wintering out and would be ready for planting early spring.

Sorry about my double post up above. I'd edit it but don't have an edit button.
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Old 01/30/14, 04:44 PM
 
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Well,I was raised working in tobacco and I learned a couple things on this thread.I will add some if you care to hear them. We were in Indiana and it's called burley here. In the south they raise different kinds than we do/or did.Our understanding of the harvesting process down south was what we called "priming". The way I understood it was that the leaves were stripped from the plant while growing in the field. Starting at the bottom as the ripen and were housed in the barn.
Here,raising burley we would first" burn the bed".This was done to kill any weed seeds and it was late winter/early spring.In later years they started "gassing" the beds.You would then sow seed in this bed and cover it with thin muslin called a tobacco tarp. This protected the tender plants from frost and sun burning.When it was time to plant you watered the bed to make it easy to pull plants without damaging them and they were rolled in burlap to keep them moist.
After planting and the crop growing it had to be wormed.You had to look at every plant for worm damage,find him and throw him on the ground hard enough to bust him open.If you didn't get all the worms a skunk would and do a lot of crop damage as he did.The next big thing was "topping" As soon as the crop started to bloom you went out in the early morning dew and broke the top out of the plant.This was done early so it would still be brittle from the night air.It was done to make the plant put it's energy into the remaining leaves. We always left 21 leaves.
After topping "suckers would grow from the base of every leaf. They had to be removed 3-4 times to keep the plant storing energy in the leaves. The other option was to spray "sucker dope".It would keep the plant from growing suckers.(Mant people sprayed too heavy and turned the top leaves yellow)This was bad because the plant rippens from the bottom up. If sprayed too heave you would have plants that were yellow on top and bottom and green in the middle.
The tobacco was cut and put on sticks(5 plants to the stick.It had to be done in the heat of the day as to not damage the leaves from being brittle)
It would lay out on the stick(driven into the ground to keep it from getting dirty) for 3-5 days to wilt down.Once it wilted down it was "housed" and hung in teires to cure.Once it had cured it was taken down "in case" and taken to the stripping room.We stripped 7 grades. Trash,lug 1,2, red 1,2,3 and tip.Norman,the guy we raised tobacco with used to make "twist". He had a wood box maybe 6x8x16 and it had molasses,brown sugar,honey and some other stuff in it and the lid had cup hooks on it.He would lift the lid when he got to the stripping room and every once in a while he'd find a leaf he liked and at the end of the night he would twist the leaves and hang them on the cup hooks and put the lid back in place so his twists were soaking in the mixture.I also saw Norman showing how to strip 21 grades!
Keep in mind that one drop of pure nicotine will kill a horse.In some states it's legal to hunt deer with poison tipped arrows and that's what is used.And if you are only doing a garden size plot of tobacco you'll want to "prime it"


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Old 01/30/14, 07:56 PM
 
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Folks still raise a few million pounds here in Hart county-- A lot of it is small crops yet--but dissapearing fast--
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Old 01/30/14, 10:49 PM
 
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This has been very interesting. I guess I just never knew the process tobacco went through before it got to the consumer.
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