Mercury in Retrograde

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Originally Posted by Zapthycat As far as I'm concerned: If they work, horoscopes are satanic. If they don't work (more likely), they are for the soft-headed and gullible.

"I don't know what it is therefore I condemn it".

Meanwhile - by at the ranch - Joe is looking up into the sky and witnessing the wonder of Creation -

Indeed, it can have an effect. If you spend too much time monitoring the positions of the planets, your web store and other things can go to pot.

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What are you selling in your web store?

Satanic really? Last time I checked the Bible says the stars and planets were put there for signs and seasons so I think your theology is a little off there. I guess those Wise men who visited Jesus were all Satanists eh? Actually they weren't they were following the Astrology handed down to them by Daniel.

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Thanks. I had thought about mentioning all that and then decided it would be a waste of time and scattered pearls in this particular instance so I said nothing. I see you used practically the same phrases verbatim that I'd been thinking of anyway so maybe we were reading each other's minds.

As all things OT are revelatory of the person of Jesus, his diety, and his plan of salvation. Using the stars to decide when to launch a web store would not be a good, straightforward application of the "signs and seasons" scripture reference. But I've seen worse.

With regard to the retrograde affecting electronics...I think that is a fairly interesting idea. I haven't ever heard of a retrograde. I just presumed that since planetary orbits are not circular, gravity happens, and my iPad misbehaving is due to cheap Indian software. BUT...I do think there are interesting relationships between distant things due to sub-atomic physics. (And I also think there are interesting theological implications from the subatomic realm). ...I am guessing that it is web calamity (vs. chaos) that you are worried about in regards to launching the web store. Bad times do happen. But if there is a calamitous relationship between mercury's orbit and a bunch of web servers and routers, consider this: modern vehicles are "fly by wire" now. There is no longer a physical linkage between, say your gas pedal, and the engine. It now goes through an electronic engine control via a computer controlled system. So I would also suggest avoid getting behind the wheel of a car in February. I hope your pantry is well stocked. Which it should be anyway. Because there are some really wicked folks out there that don't wait for retrogrades to jack with us.

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Sorry, but signs and seasons is far different than horoscopes. The wise men were following a sign. The spring solstice told people when spring was coming so they knew when to farm. God does not like astrologers, stargazers, and monthly prognosticators. Isaiah 47. Other places also.

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This is very true. I don't think Jesus had any problems with astrologers, astronomers and soothsayers and I haven't seen anything in the NT to the contrary, but YHWH the god of the OT bible definitely hates them all with a passion. People who worship old testament YHWH or who are conflicted in their devotion between Jesus and YHWH should avoid having anything to do with astrology and astronomy otherwise they'll bring BIG trouble down on their selves from YHWH. Really BIG. It's the truth.

They are one and the same. Zechariah 12:10 et. al. Not conflicted here. Isn't astronomy just the study of the stuff in outer space? Kind of like studying a rock on my driveway...Shouldn't be anything wrong with that. (The universe must be big for a reason, though?)

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Astronomy is a science, a particularly awesome science. There's nothing wrong with it, I enjoy watching the stars, galaxies, meteor showers and all that. There's nothing wrong in the Bible with this.

Astrology isn't a science, it's trying to predict the future through which astronomical phenomena supposedly have an effect on events in the human world.

Anyone that believes in horoscopes, I usually give them a wide berth. They're either irrational or occultist (in my opinion).

Astronomers are the 'stargazers' that Poppy mentioned. Astronomy is the discovery, study, plotting and charting of all celestial bodies moving in the universe. For astrologers, astronomy goes hand in hand with astrology which is the study, plotting and charting of present and future events on earth based on the movements of all celestial bodies in the universe which all have a direct influence on each other and on earth.

Yet for scientists that study astronomy, there couldn't BE a bigger difference than what they do and what the tarot card reader does at the carnival...

That's true. What's your point?

Just that Astronomy and Astrology sound similar but have almost nothing in common. One is science and one is mythology.

Heh. Go tell that to all the farmers that still swear by the Farmer's Almanac. http://www.almanac.com/

Of course, some might say that about Evolution and Genesis.

From what I read, they use astronomical predictions like "sunspot activity", which has basis in science. Nothing about horoscopes.

Take it for what it's worth. To each his own.

You must not have ever heard of "planting by the signs". Agricultural astrology. http://www.almanac.com/bestdays/timetable

LOL. You are hilarious Z.

You didn't look at the farmer's almanac link that I posted for you. Now Lisa has posted it for you. Go look at the best days section, put your cursor over it and the pages there will drop down for you to click on.

Farmers have been using the farmer's almanac for more than 100 years and have relied on a great deal of the astrological recommendations there for all manner of farm related activities. Check this out: http://www.almanac.com/bestdays/timetable