EPA Tightening Restrictions on New Wood Stoves

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Plow Jockey, the point is, I don't believe their intention is to clean up the wood stove emissions, they want to eliminate them from existence. Their is a hell of a lot more wood that is openly burned on this earth than is burned inside someone's wood stove. The benefit that might be gained is miniscule compared to the expense and inconvenience to those who depend on wood for their heat. And its like a drop in the ocean as far as how much smoke goes into the atmosphere from all sources.

When is the epa going to ban fish because they crap in the water and pollute it. How many people need to lose there job due to epa regs before we the people stop them? Lets just ban cold and hot weather because it can kill. How about we all give up everything that might pollute something like cars, electric wind and solar still makes pollution from the start to finish of making the solar panel or wind mill.

I think I see a new business model. The manufacture of "antique" wood stoves. Add a bit of rust and ash and the customer is home free.....Joe

It's not only the stove but the venting system.... stainless lined chimney of the right size = way cleaner burn.... run you vehicle with an improper exhaust and see how it does.

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Might want to remember Richard Nixon signed the bill that brought EPA into existence.

Well, kinda off subject here BUT a little known fact is, over $10,000 of every new car sold goes towards advertising.

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If you are a gooberment agency your power is directly tied to your budget. The bigger your budget the more power you have. The EPA was formed to stop pollution. Folks figured that that meant the big polluters like industry. So the EPA stopped most of the big polluters but instead of saying "our job here is done" and fading off into the sunset, they started looking for ways to continue their existence. They have come up with "problems" that need them to fix so they can continue to exist and even expand.

The spouts on gas cans are an idiotic example. They came up with regs that resulted in the new spouts because a bit of gas was being spilled into the atmosphere. The reality is that I spill more with the new spout than with the old because I could bend the old flexible spout into the opening on the gas tank while with the new spout I have to aim for the opening and hope I hit it.

I went to buy a new fuel line for the outboard and found out that the EPA required a new attachment to the gas tank. This raised the price of course. I have several outboards and 5 tanks. I am not about to replace all the connectors to make the EPA happy so I cut the new connector off the fuel line and put on an old one. Still had to pay the higher price for the new line.

New regs on light bulbs and carburetors are similarly stupid. If I were king for a day, I would slash the EPA's budget so that they could only address any new major pollution.

On the darker side, the current administration is using gooberment agencies to further it's agenda. Shutting down coal fired power plants when we have a million years worth of coal in the ground hurts the economy by taking away jobs and making electricity more expensive. The IRS tried to inhibit conservative nonprofits by denying them nonprofit status.

They tried to institute cap and trade which charges you for producing carbon. Carbon is one of the components of the exhaust from wood stoves. They were trying to make burning wood so expensive that no one could afford it. There was no distinction between carbon that was locked up in fossile fuels for millions of years and carbon that was locked up in fire wood for 20 years and would be released when the wood rotted anyway.

It seems to me that the new regulations on wood stoves are just a way to do an end around since cap and trade didn't pass. Once the new regs are in place the EPA will ban all old stoves and we will have to spend the big bucks for one that meets the new regs.

The gooberment is trying to make us all dependent on them. People who burn wood can still be fairly independent so they must be brought to heel.

I would LOVE a source on this!

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More proof that the EPA is just another horribly out of control, power mad govt agency.

I don't see any links in the article to where you can tell the epa what your thoughts are...did I miss something or did foxnews not provide it?

They why don't they just ban their sale and use, then?

The EPA cannot do much about wood that burns naturally, but when a cul-de-dac is choked with wood smoke from fireplaces and wood stoves, there is something they can do about it and that what they are doing.

Everyone always thinks their pollution out is miniscule, but when multiplied by hundreds, thousands, or millions, adds up.

Some time back, posters here noted that their "EPA approved" wood stoves, actually put out more heat on less Wood.

I've got a few wood stoves I intend on using. If I put them in a new house, there may be a requirement that any stove I use be EPA approved. Already needs to be UL approved. So this effects more than the manufacture of new, could make your stove illegal. When the insurance companies discover that a EPA approved stove builds less creosote, making them a touch safer, you won't be able to use grandpa's stove and keep your fire insurance.
On the other side, most of those outside wood boilers puff out an awful stench. Partly because they have short stacks and partly because you can't split 3 foot firewood,so wood goes in half seasoned. Already many cities banning them.

I wonder if Jethro next door can still burn all of his plastic trash in it?

Would you suggest that a fire insurance company approve a less safe model ? That would seem like a stupid business decision on their part....the whole reason UL labs came along.

You could always simply not carry fire insurance and assume the entire risk.


Yep. And there are new EPA standards for outdoor boilers in response.

In fact, 7 States actually sued EPA to force it to up the standards on these boilers.

Seven states filed a federal lawsuit against the Environmental Protection Agency over health-damaging air pollution from outdoor wood-fired boilers that have become popular for residential heating. The lawsuit asks a federal court to order the EPA to review and adopt updated emissions limits for the boilers, which have been banned in some states and are strictly regulated in others. The coalition includes New York, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont.

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