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Old 12/22/13, 05:53 PM
 
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If I had my way, I wouldn't have neighbors at all, just acres and acres of trees and pasture. But we had to compromise between price, distance from work and family, and the quality of of the house (if it was just me, I could live in a storage container, but I've got to keep the wife happy too).

I'm fairly happy with what we've ended up with though. The price was very low (low enough that we could easily pay it off early) and the house is twice the size of our current home. The property is almost completely surrounded by woods, which are state owned and stretch for miles. And 3 acres is just enough to support the gardening and livestock we plan to have. I even found an old well on the property yesterday that wasn't advertised. I think I can get it running again to water our crops.

On the downside though, two of my neighbors are much closer than I'd like. But coming from a city neighborhood, we thought it was a big improvement over our current situation.
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Old 12/22/13, 06:23 PM
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Get liability insurance. Now.
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Old 12/22/13, 07:00 PM
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When we bought our homestead I checked things like "right of ways" because when you have that you loose that property or it isn't yours to do as you want. If it runs through your yard good luck.
Second thing we did was meet our neighbors. We are fortune to have great neighbors. I met one of my neighbors who was gone when we bought & when he came home the wife & I were working when he came rolling up wanting to know who we were. Anyway I appreciated him sticking his nose in my business because I got to meet him & he turns out to be kind off the neighborhood watchman, unofficial. He is a great guy that is very much like thinking to me, so he has my vote.
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Old 12/22/13, 07:00 PM
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If I had my way, I wouldn't have neighbors at all, just acres and acres of trees and pasture. But we had to compromise between price, distance from work and family, and the quality of of the house (if it was just me, I could live in a storage container, but I've got to keep the wife happy too).

I'm fairly happy with what we've ended up with though. The price was very low (low enough that we could easily pay it off early) and the house is twice the size of our current home. The property is almost completely surrounded by woods, which are state owned and stretch for miles. And 3 acres is just enough to support the gardening and livestock we plan to have. I even found an old well on the property yesterday that wasn't advertised. I think I can get it running again to water our crops.

On the downside though, two of my neighbors are much closer than I'd like. But coming from a city neighborhood, we thought it was a big improvement over our current situation.
anything is better than living in the city including having a couple trespassers once in awhile
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Old 12/22/13, 07:28 PM
 
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Go meet your neighbors. Plan a barbeque for next Spring. Ask for advice. 'Old timers' can give you alot of info. What the weather is like there what grows better at what time of the year.

My Uncle grew up in a small town moved away went back to retire. The neighbors he had trouble with where 'newbies'. He got to visiting with his other neighbors and found out these people moved in about a year after he left. They never fit in because right off the bat they put up signs and fenced. Don't make a bad 1st impression. It is sad that the 'newbies' have lived there for 36 years and are still 'newbies'.
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Old 12/22/13, 08:26 PM
 
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anything is better than living in the city including having a couple trespassers once in awhile
Ha, I guess you're right about that. And my city didn't even allow chickens. Now I can have as many as I want.
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Old 12/22/13, 08:43 PM
 
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Everything has been mentioned. Be friendly to the neighbors, but don't neglect your liability insurance, just in case. Just remember the old saying, "You catch more flies with honey then with vinegar."
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Old 12/23/13, 10:43 AM
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Posted signs, trail cams and Let the law handle it.
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Old 12/23/13, 10:59 AM
 
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Be very careful of becoming "That new neighbor" or the "Three acre neighborhood sheriff".
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We gave people the benefit of the doubt when we first move to our place. Then slowly added reinforcement to those who didn't get the message. Over all, we've been very lucky having great neighbors. Only two issues since 2005. First was a group that though it was OK to ride there horses on our property after they'd see us leave (at the time we were not living on our farm). Now honestly, had they asked, i would havev been happy to ride with them. But they snuck around. Caught them on my hubby's wildlife cameras. Let them know we knew and that was the end of that. The second was a new couple that moved in. The hubby asked me to bushhog his property for him since he didn't have a tractor and it was overgrown. I said sure, my Welcome to the neighborhood gift. Then this guy started hanging out at my place EVERY TIME he saw me there.....it was freaky and made me very uncomfortable. I finally was as rude as possible and told him to leave me alone. guess I really ticked him off because that was 3 years ago and he won't even wave to me now. Mission accomplished.
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Old 12/23/13, 03:11 PM
 
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Hard to tell that you meant it as a joke. I live in an area where SSS can be too real. Currently, I'm staying in an area where push comes to shove results in daily drive by shootings. Posting a joke on your property line that someone might think serious, is just the first push.
Get a better feel for the neighborhood before you threaten them, joking or not. It's all fun and games until someone doesn't get the sarcasm.

Got bigger issues then if someone isn't getting dry humor. Sarcastic or not.
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Old 12/23/13, 03:14 PM
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Sorry, I didn't read all the posts. Being a NJ Rich man doesn't mean I am not country. I helped bail and load hay; sickle barred fields; helped a farmer with a bloated cow and made friends along the way. Hunted all over and hunter coons at night with dogs. Country folks are best welcomed with a handshake and a smile.

The peopel near you may have hunted the place for many years and feel entitled. Unless you are anti-hunting you may (as I think may have been said) ask for people wanting to hunt to: Please ask first. I would like to know who is on my property. By the way would like a nice piece of venison.... If you would help watch my place I would truly appreciate that very much. In many states a written permission with names is required to be on the hunter if challenged by the local lawmen. I was challenged in Tennessee. We had the right paperwork with the group.

Good neighbors are better than a fence... But a fence is the only thing some people understand. Start slow and be friendly. Depending where you are a good handshake and a smile is better than anything. Wave as you drive by their place and wave as they pass yours

If you are church going person attending a church service will warm the hearts of my people. Blend in and be a good neighbor is the best I can say for you.
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Old 12/23/13, 03:23 PM
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I bought a place last year in the same area Darren lives... Listen to him.. he knows what he's talking about.. DO NOT get on the bad side of the neighbor.. .We've already had an issue at our place, even though it wasn't trespassing.. Luckily the guy involved is not a favorite person of anyone around the area, but he is a relative of a neighbor.. You know what they say about the thickness of blood... Thankfully the neighbor is a decent person.

Go introduce yourself.. You might be surprised.. Since I've introduced myself to our neighbors, I've gained an extra 150 acres to hunt on plus my land. .One neighbor said help yourself and hunt.. We don't much any more... and I didn't ask them.. I was happy with my land..

We've made friends with the well tender and the well owner on our land.. they look out for our place when we're not there and know to get a hold of us if there's issues..

We also pay someone in the FD that watches our place and we've become good friends with.. This person is also well respected in the community,. and people know not to mess with him, or his friends or family... GET TO KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY!

Yes, put up signs.. Not everyone trespassing may be a neighbor. Could be poeple coming from a distance.. Could be they don't know anyone moved in..

Put your name and contact info on the posted sign. Doubtful they will call you once they see you now own the place, BUT, if DNR or similar catches someone poaching or similar, they know how to contact you so they can inform you. It is also what makes the posted signs legal if you do have to start calling the sheriff..

Just be nice.. tread lightly, and every time you have a chance, be out there.. Stop people and talk to them as they pass.. Let them know you're good people.. They will show the respect back. .

We've met some great people, and made a few great friends out in our new place, BUT, I also know if I cross the wrong person, things have a way of going bad fast.. Out where we are, the cops don't like to show up, and they expect you to take care of your own problems, and when people do come up missing, they don't seem to be too quick to try and figure it out, and often go out of their way to avoid finding anyone responsible....

It seems we've kind of picked a place to live with a wild west mentality in ways.. but I'm good with that.. respect gets respect, and I like living that way..
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Old 12/23/13, 06:41 PM
 
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First, make friends with your neighbors.
Then put up a nice fence, the property isn't that big, hire a neighbor with back hoe or tractor to sink the posts.
Tell them the fence is to keep the dogs or future cows in. A practical fence, not antisocial fence.
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Old 12/23/13, 07:08 PM
 
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That property looks like it might not meet basic hunting requirements - so many feet off the road, so many feet from an occupied dwelling. Berry bush brambles are just as effective as fences - perhaps more so.

I think you have more to be concerned about with the exposed location than neighbors. Just do a little target practice out back and lay back to see how the winds blow.
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Old 12/23/13, 07:31 PM
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I so agree with getting to know neighbors first and putting your best foot forward. I'd rather assume positive intent and adjust afterwards if need be.

I was the new kid on the road when I bought my place and people were pretty suspicious. For all they knew I was some woman from the city who was going to end up being the "bad" neighbor. I was hardly out of the car when a guy and his wife pulled up on a 4 wheeler and offered me a cold beer. They were there to say welcome but also it was more than obvious that they wanted to know what I was all about. It wasn't long before I learned most the people on that road were related one way or another. They turned out to be good neighbors and I sure tried to be, too. We looked out for each other.

There was one guy across the road who was always so grumpy. Egads. He wouldn't wave or smile or so much as say hello. I would just keep waving when I drove by if he was out at the road. One day I couldn't take it anymore. I baked him a pie and walked it over. "What's this?" "Last I looked it was apple pie." "Apple pie? You mean FRESH apple pie?" "Yup." "For me...an apple pie..." "Enjoy it while it's still warm." He was totally puzzled. lol! I handed him the pie before he knew what was happening and just walked off. After that he would wave and smile and over the months we started to help each other from time to time if one or the other needed it.

They're probably looking cross eyed at you wondering if you're going to be a good neighbor or a pain in the rumpus. They have no way to know. Give it a chance.
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Old 12/24/13, 07:35 AM
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Town people move to the country so that they can live a quieter lifestyle... and before they've even moved in they are angry about what the locals were doing before they even got there.

I think you should just accept it- you aren't going to fit in well in your neighborhood and you'll be living at "the old Smith place, the one those out-of-towners bought" for decades.
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Old 12/24/13, 10:43 AM
 
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If nobody has been living at the place for sometime I can understand why some neighbor may be hunting the property - no big deal at this time - in all likelyhood once you move in that will stop - the ATV tracks I don't like but until I move in I wouldn't get all worked up about them - when I bought my place snowmobiles would come through - some pretty close to the house - I planted a Autumn Olive fence along the property line and that stopped that from happening - I wouldn't put any signs up now - wait and see what happens once you move it - often we think that things are worse than they really are -
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Old 12/24/13, 10:47 AM
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Joe.. you can come get all my Autumn Olive... I'd love to get rid of thousands of them...
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Old 12/24/13, 10:51 AM
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you'll be living at "the old Smith place, the one those out-of-towners bought" for decades.
No, that's ME.

Fortunately, we have the advantage of also having been "that couple that ran the Watson ranch before they moved down here." Not to mention, when we first moved down, DH was working for a local feedlot.
Ie, we're cattle people, even if we aren't from this area specifically.




But, to Mr. Smith that owned the place before us as well as the issue of bad neighbors and assuming the best of people--


We actually bought it from some guy out of CO Springs who bought it from Smith. He never did anything with it, held it for 10 years or so and sold.
When we first came out here, you could see the tracks in and out of the drive. It was like a freeway. Turns out Bob Smith, the original owner's son (aged 70 now, and on the VFD with my hubby actually), was coming in and out pulling parts off the old combine and swather that were left on the place in the bone yard. We were planning on selling it for scrap to help build the house. But we told him it was OK to pull parts. We wanted to be neighborly and really it was an easy give.


One day, AFTER we moved out here, we were all gone for the day and came back to find the swather gone. Like loaded up and GONE. We were extremely irritated, to say the least. But, picking our battles, decided not to call the sheriff over something that was basically junk steel. Even if it was a lot of junk steel.

However, once we strung our interior fences, it wasn't an easy slip-in-slip-out type of thing to get the combine, so he showed up at the house about 6 months later to ask about it.
"I need to get that combine out of there. I have a scrap buyer for it."

Acting like there was just some sort of confusion, I replied:
"Oh, that's OK, I think we've got someone found who'll haul it for us. Offered a decent price and all."

"But that's MY combine!!"

Again, feigning confusion:
"No, our sales agreement was pretty specific....all land and everything upon it."

"But I had an agreement with the last guy that I could get my equipment!"

"Well yes, and he held the ground for 10 years before he got around to selling...but it's not a problem. We can hold off and let you do a title search. We aren't in any hurry."

Then, to rub salt in a little--
"We already sold the motor out of the combine, though. Do you know how much that thing brought??!!? $1900! to the feedlot Trap works for, to put in a front end loader.
But yeah, we can wait for the scrap guy while you run a title."

He blustered and blew a bit, "Well I don't want to cause trouble, but that's mine same as the swather was."

And just to drive the point a little more clearly I said, "Yeah, the swather. We were kind of irritated about that disappearing, particularly since you hadn't even talked to us. But we decided not to call the sheriff because we thought you might have been a bit confused about ownership..."

BS, of course. We knew he knew exactly what he was doing. That's why he waited til no one was home.


"Well, I don't want to cause trouble..."


Of course not.
You just didn't want to be caught causing trouble.

But instead I repeated,
"Truly, we aren't in a rush. We won't call the junk guy for a few more months. That'll give you plenty of time to do a title search. But let's not have anything just go missing again, because that almost looks like theft."



Win-win. We made it abundantly clear that we didn't want anything else to disappear but we didn't have to be rude or mean about it.
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