Simple (To You) Wiring Question

You need 1 black from the switch, 1 white from the same romex and a ground. Do you have a tester? Then depending on whether you want the outlet hot or switched. Hot to outlet or switched to outlet, you have both choices, now. Either use the same as fixture, or other romex that is hot. If you use switched you will need to wire nut and tape the hot one....James

Then what?

It is 2 switches. One side of switch is 2 whites and 1 gound. Other side is 2 blacks.

Top switch is for the light and bottom is for the exhaust fan. They are on separate breakers.

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The other thing, they brought hot to box from panel, sent #2 wire to switch, hot. #3 Switched wire back to box went to outlet before coming back to the fixture.

....James

Does the ground have to be from the same romex as the white and black wires?

The reason I am asking is it looks like the ground in 1 romex has been cut off. When I attach the single black and single white to the light, and the ground from another romex, I am not getting the light to come on.

When I hook up the twisted white and twisted black wires from the other 2 romex, the light comes on but the switch doesn't work.

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What is confusing here is, there a 2nd black wire that is Hot coming from the hot side of the switch so the outlet Stays hot even if the switch is in the off position.
You need to take that line out of the picture, disconnect it from the one side of the switch leaving just the ONE black wire to cut the power on and off to the light. You want Just The one Back Hot line connected to the switch.
Then that will leave just the whts and ground and black which is then hot only when the switch in on.

I have a light fixture in my bathroom that has that outlet on it. But it is ONLY hot when the light is on. After all what good is a outlet on a light fixture if the light is off? You sure want to 'see' what you are doing. LOL

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Yes, you a need a black hot and a white neutral to make a circuit. First you need to see how the hot gets to switch, it may be coming through that box at fixture and then down to switch and outlet. Separate the wires, 3 sets of each. Tape identify the single black wire. Now which is hot all the time. Which one is switched. You need switched for fixture. Outlet can go either way. I would want outlet hot all the time. You need a tester to see IF you have hot to switch without those 2 black wires connected. Also are they running the fan through this circuit. Does the fan still work? Does it work when the 2 black wires are unconnected....James

You need a tester, either a voltmeter or test light to determine which black wires are hot when each of the switches is in the on position.

You say it is two switches, is this a double switch made for a single space outlet box? A picture of the switch would be very helpful.

OOOPs, you already said the fan is on a separate circuit....James

My mistake. It is not switched.

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Not so quick with the second hot wire. Is it connected to the same screw as the 1st black wire? It maybe/is feeding hot to another place. Also it is nice to have the outlet hot all the time IF you recharge an battery razor or trimmer....James.

OK, back to my original post....James

That outlet may be run from that 2nd black wire at the switch....but....why 3 wires in the box? Just thinking here, it goes on to power something else. But the 2 blacks are twisted together....Seems this would be the hot all the time and the single black would be your switched wire....James

OK. Answer me this. Originally, all 3 white wires were twisted together. I separated the 1 white wire that was in the same romex as the single black wire and attached them to the light. It didn't work. Should I have left all 3 white wires twisted together?

ETA: Tried it. Twisted 3 white wires together. Attached that and single black wire to light. Didn't work.

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Does not have to be....but....You are saying that wire is never hot, with switch on or off? So it is NOT the hot, all the time, wire. Interesting. Just thinking. How about those 2 black wires at the switch, are they on the same screw?

....James

Are the 2 black wires that are twisted together at the box your hot wires?

....James

Its run to the switch, which should mean one of the others runs to the outlet, other is power.

You saying 2 hots, why? and 1 to outlet? or 1 back from switch, which means switch is hot from? Or how are they getting switched power back?

Looks to me, the 2 blacks hooked together are the hots, one hot wire into box and then 1 out to switch, the other is the switched wire back. One of the 2 black wires at switch feeds outlet. Just thinking out loud here....James

Do you have any hot wire in the box with the switch off? IF so than all those wires would be switched, only wires. But then all would be hot if switch is on. But then why 3 romex? Has your new fixture ever worked?

....James

I can only answer last question. Yes, it worked when I wired the 2 twisted blacks and 2 twisted whites. Problem was it wasn't switched.

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Let me give you an idea on how the house was wired. When I replaced the ceiling fan in the kitchen, I found 5 black and 5 white wires. He had run power to the ceiling fan and then fanned out to 4 receptacles.

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