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Old 12/01/13, 06:44 AM
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Common Tator is very methodical. She finds the proper procedures and follows them, and she also gives people a chance to make things right. She will handle this in her own way and own time and most likely come out on top, a la the Captain Dreadlocks thread.

Yeah, I, too, would like to see headless torsos flying through the air, fire and brimstone raining down on the evildoers, great wailing and gnashing of teeth, but Common Tator has this under control. Let's just wait and see.
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Here Here!

We are ready to boo hiss boo! the doc and Hooray! Tator.

I'm still on the fence about the Sheriff.
Can't fault Deputy Daug ,he is a feared he'll shoot his self in the foot and wake up and see the doc's face smiling down at him ,if he did his job
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C Tator,

if you can't get the Sheriff's Dept to do their duty, take your evidence and go talk to someone at the Prosecuting Attorney's Office. Not saying they, will but they CAN, get things moving if they choose to do so.
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Old 12/02/13, 08:43 PM
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Common Tator, you’ve been kind enough to share your struggles with this issue and the people involved in it… the doctor, sheriff, campground, etc. Thank you for your openness and the updates.

I’m kinda new around these parts, and have been holding my tongue, hoping, perhaps, that someone else might suggest the following course of action for your consideration.

Assuming that the trouble with the dogs has subsided, (more of a physical safety issue) and the remaining strife is with people and their behavior, have you considered simply forgiving them?

I have no idea if you are a Christian, but if so, it would seem that this would fit snugly under the “bless those who curse you and pray for those who spitefully use you” plan of action.

(Of course, if you’d like to take it to the NEXT level, you could always take a box of fresh apples to the doctor’s office as a gift to her & her staff… which would fit under the “if your enemy is hungry, feed them… and in doing so, you’ll heap hot coals on her head” strategy.)

As for the legal matters, take a prayerful read through 1 Corinthians 6… especially the part about how Paul writes that it might be better just to be defrauded than to go before the unjust legal system.

(I’ve given no place in these suggestions to the campground OR the doctor’s behavior, lack of repentance, etc… because, obviously, nobody can control them. You can, of course, only control the decision and course you choose.)

These ideas are offered for your consideration. I hope I didn’t come across as too “preachy.” Blessings to you! :-)
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I would really like to find a source for cheap, broken trail cameras. Set them up in fairly obvious places. And put the good cameras more concealed, but in places where they will get good shots. So if the trespassers want to steal or destroy the obvious camera, I'll get good pictures of them doing it.
Use empty protection boxes. It'll serve the same purpose.
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CT By her slow pace of actions Shows Christan Charity.
When the bill is paid then she can offer Forgiveness.

No need was involved but a continuation of past thefts, that makes it difficult for Me to promote forgiveness with-out restitution

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Old 12/07/13, 08:50 PM
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And forgiveness doesn't pay the bills....
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And forgiveness doesn't pay the bills....
or avoid having the whole county showing up for freebies. Forgiving one's enemies is Christian, but pretending they are friends is unrealistic. Prosecution on a legal level and forgiveness on a personal level are NOT incompatible....Joe
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Old 12/10/13, 07:01 AM
 
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Any news Tator?
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We're all wondering.
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Old 12/10/13, 12:11 PM
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Nothing new. I'll be filing the small claims case Thursday or Friday.
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Nothing new. I'll be filing the small claims case Thursday or Friday.
Good on ya!

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You can cut a 4x4 into wedges to put behind the trail cameras so you can mount them high in the trees. They can't be stolen if they can't be reached or seen. Most people don't look up for trail cameras. I'll be the first to recommend razor wire .
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Old 12/13/13, 09:45 AM
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i was at a retreat center last year in a rural setting where the closest neighbor apparently has a gorgeous pond near one of the walking trails. apparently many retreatants confused this pond for being on the property and would go to sit there. the neighbor became angrier and angrier until her solution was to charge a fee for sitting at her pond. when this was told to the retreat owners they started to warn the retreatants about straying off the walking trail. it was a stern warning and when one is in a retreat the last thing you want is a confrontation with an angry person so i didn't even use that trail; there was another. i say this because apparently the neighbor put up with the trespassing for a long time before she took it upon herself to charge a fee in order to stop the trespassing. who knows how many other things she had tried by then or how long it had been happening.
you have also allowed the abuse to go on for a long time but i guarantee there is a solution when the abuse is confronted head on with substance like a court order in your case. not only your livelihood but your home and your peace of mind have all been affected. it is good to be kind and patient and understanding, which it seems as you have done for years with no resolution. i would think in some states you might be giving away your rights to those apple trees if you don't put it on record as attempting to stop the trespassing. best wishes.
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Old 12/13/13, 11:41 AM
 
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i would think in some states you might be giving away your rights to those apple trees if you don't put it on record as attempting to stop the trespassing. best wishes.
It easily could be like that here. I bought this property and being so young I was talked out of having a survey done right away.
When I did finally get one I put up a fence. It went from 15 feet in the front to 11 feet at the back of my five acres that I was out in the plowed field.
The farmer was such a jerk I didn't care. He had been planting sun flowers and he said nothing about it because he had been there when they were doing the surveying. The following year he planted the 70 acres to cherry trees. That last row was very close to my fence. A smarter thing would have been to start on my end so they had to hand pick most of the last row later.
Imaging how long it was before they could get a crop and shake those trees. Five years of shaking the trees and hand picking 16 trees and I came home from work one day and they had pulled my fence and run the shaker on my property. I called the cops and my lawyer.
I knew more about property law than they did.
Two days after I put the fence up he could have pulled it and sued me for the property and he would have easily won. Seven or eight years after I had blocked access from that property he had no possible way to win.
He did not pull the very first one or six of the last ones and at the top of the hill I found the hole and the survey stake and put that one back.
My brother came here and we used my transit to set every other post and strung a string to set the others. Ten years later they were surveying the road and that guy told me he had never seen a fence put in so straight.
I told him his transit is a lot fancier than mine is.
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Old 12/20/13, 11:31 AM
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Just my own two cents...

In my communication to the small claims court, I'd be sure to state that even though this person admitted, in writing, that she's been trespassing and stealing apples from you for quite awhile, you are ONLY suing for the full value of what was taken on the occassion of trespassing proven by the webcam....Judges like that sort of "fairness", and willl often award more than what was asked if the offender acts like a victim..
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