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Can't fault Deputy Daug ,he is a feared he'll shoot his self in the foot and wake up and see the doc's face smiling down at him ,if he did his job :ogre: :run:

C Tator,

if you can't get the Sheriff's Dept to do their duty, take your evidence and go talk to someone at the Prosecuting Attorney's Office. Not saying they, will but they CAN, get things moving if they choose to do so.

Common Tator, you’ve been kind enough to share your struggles with this issue and the people involved in it… the doctor, sheriff, campground, etc. Thank you for your openness and the updates.

I’m kinda new around these parts, and have been holding my tongue, hoping, perhaps, that someone else might suggest the following course of action for your consideration.

Assuming that the trouble with the dogs has subsided, (more of a physical safety issue) and the remaining strife is with people and their behavior, have you considered simply forgiving them?

I have no idea if you are a Christian, but if so, it would seem that this would fit snugly under the “bless those who curse you and pray for those who spitefully use you” plan of action.

(Of course, if you’d like to take it to the NEXT level, you could always take a box of fresh apples to the doctor’s office as a gift to her & her staff… which would fit under the “if your enemy is hungry, feed them… and in doing so, you’ll heap hot coals on her head” strategy.)

As for the legal matters, take a prayerful read through 1 Corinthians 6… especially the part about how Paul writes that it might be better just to be defrauded than to go before the unjust legal system.

(I’ve given no place in these suggestions to the campground OR the doctor’s behavior, lack of repentance, etc… because, obviously, nobody can control them. You can, of course, only control the decision and course you choose.)

These ideas are offered for your consideration. I hope I didn’t come across as too “preachy.” Blessings to you! :-)

Use empty protection boxes. It'll serve the same purpose.

CT By her slow pace of actions Shows Christan Charity.
When the bill is paid then she can offer Forgiveness.

No need was involved but a continuation of past thefts, that makes it difficult for Me to promote forgiveness with-out restitution

Peace

And forgiveness doesn't pay the bills....

or avoid having the whole county showing up for freebies. Forgiving one's enemies is Christian, but pretending they are friends is unrealistic. Prosecution on a legal level and forgiveness on a personal level are NOT incompatible....Joe

Any news Tator?

We're all wondering.

Nothing new. I'll be filing the small claims case Thursday or Friday.

Good on ya!

Back to the edge of our seats folks!

You can cut a 4x4 into wedges to put behind the trail cameras so you can mount them high in the trees. They can't be stolen if they can't be reached or seen. Most people don't look up for trail cameras. I'll be the first to recommend razor wire .

i was at a retreat center last year in a rural setting where the closest neighbor apparently has a gorgeous pond near one of the walking trails. apparently many retreatants confused this pond for being on the property and would go to sit there. the neighbor became angrier and angrier until her solution was to charge a fee for sitting at her pond. when this was told to the retreat owners they started to warn the retreatants about straying off the walking trail. it was a stern warning and when one is in a retreat the last thing you want is a confrontation with an angry person so i didn't even use that trail; there was another. i say this because apparently the neighbor put up with the trespassing for a long time before she took it upon herself to charge a fee in order to stop the trespassing. who knows how many other things she had tried by then or how long it had been happening.
you have also allowed the abuse to go on for a long time but i guarantee there is a solution when the abuse is confronted head on with substance like a court order in your case. not only your livelihood but your home and your peace of mind have all been affected. it is good to be kind and patient and understanding, which it seems as you have done for years with no resolution. i would think in some states you might be giving away your rights to those apple trees if you don't put it on record as attempting to stop the trespassing. best wishes.

It easily could be like that here. I bought this property and being so young I was talked out of having a survey done right away.
When I did finally get one I put up a fence. It went from 15 feet in the front to 11 feet at the back of my five acres that I was out in the plowed field.
The farmer was such a jerk I didn't care. He had been planting sun flowers and he said nothing about it because he had been there when they were doing the surveying. The following year he planted the 70 acres to cherry trees. That last row was very close to my fence. A smarter thing would have been to start on my end so they had to hand pick most of the last row later.
Imaging how long it was before they could get a crop and shake those trees. Five years of shaking the trees and hand picking 16 trees and I came home from work one day and they had pulled my fence and run the shaker on my property. I called the cops and my lawyer.
I knew more about property law than they did.
Two days after I put the fence up he could have pulled it and sued me for the property and he would have easily won. Seven or eight years after I had blocked access from that property he had no possible way to win.
He did not pull the very first one or six of the last ones and at the top of the hill I found the hole and the survey stake and put that one back.
My brother came here and we used my transit to set every other post and strung a string to set the others. Ten years later they were surveying the road and that guy told me he had never seen a fence put in so straight.
I told him his transit is a lot fancier than mine is.:D

Any updates??

Just my own two cents...

In my communication to the small claims court, I'd be sure to state that even though this person admitted, in writing, that she's been trespassing and stealing apples from you for quite awhile, you are ONLY suing for the full value of what was taken on the occassion of trespassing proven by the webcam....Judges like that sort of "fairness", and willl often award more than what was asked if the offender acts like a victim..:)

Any news?

Bump back to the first page.

Yup... not sure what's happening there, CT, but the whole thing has developed into a story we can hardly wait to read the next chapter of! :-)

With your posts, you have become a part of the family here and we care how things go for you. I only wish I could have been more effective in working on them behind the scenes but fear that there are a few people in local authority that don't have a whole lot of backbone or integrity. I hate to say that about fellow (professed) Christians. Not all that take on the Name live anything like they have a clue who He is, labels notwithstanding.

Hoping you'll have a good outcome with the court proceedings! I'll add my voice to the choir... will be good to hear the updates as you're able.

Blessings, my friend.

Those were pretty not nice things to say, assumptions at that.

Exactly. Especially considering the fact that CT has been an active member here a WHOLE lot longer than JoePa!

When I first joined this group there was a woman who was posting all sorts of things that happened to her, generally involving her ex. Everyday there seemed to a new horrible happening. All turned out to not be true.

However, I think CTs events are true - no doubt in my mind about this. But invented situations do happen.

JoePa -- That was really uncalled for. Why don't you check out these websites:

http://www.stetsoncreekranch.com/index.html

https://www.facebook.com/#!/StetsonCreekRanch Read the post of October 14 in its entirety. I cannot believe someone has gone to that much trouble to "punk" us, especially apparently making up all those customer personas who commented on her orchard's FB page.

Joe, in the future, do a little research before you start accusing someone of lying. CT's info was easily found by starting with her profile here.

I'd use Claymores with a sign that said--Don't Touch Here"

Holy mackeral - a guy can't say anything anymore - without a bunch of people jumping all over him - there have been many cases on the internet where people made up stories - I didn't call anyone a liar - just cautioned that maybe this could be happening from how long this story was going on - thats all - can't a guy express his opinion - are we so controlled by political correctness that people get offended with anything that doesn't agree with what they think - that's what happened to Phil - can't I think differently from you - it a sad day when that happens - no wonder our country is going down the tubes - :lonergr:

I think what JoePa and I see as incongruous is the "I'm so MAD about thieves that I'm going to e-mail the sheriff". With all the anger espoused by the OP toward the thieves it just doesn't seem fit to simply e-mail a deputy sheriff and not file official charges. To me is like shooting a charging bear with a BB gun, sure you're doing something but is it really going to change anything.

I hope the OP can get this resolved. Trespassing is one thing, being a thief while trespassing is another whole level.

By the way, the photos on the website made me hungry for some fresh apples, they looked great.

Jim

I reason I said what I said is - there seems to be no resolution to this problem - heck if someone was continually trespassing on my property and stealing apples I would have the problem resolved in a matter of days - and eveytime someone offers a solution there is another excuse why it won't work - now maybe I'm wrong - maybe I'm not - what grips me the most is that I can't express my opinion - I'm suppose to think like everyone else - shame on the moderator for not letting me express my opinion - this is America isn't it -

...............Yep , since she has pics of the Piglet Doc stealing her apples , she should have filed a claim in small claims court , within a couple of days of the theft ! The only logical reason for her lack of pursuit of her claim is , I believe she is afraid of making some of these folks mad , and that it might affect the sales of her apples ! , fordy:shrug:

For goodness sake, the OP is handling the issue in the way she wishes to! It's her life and her decision.

Anyone here not finding out what she did or did not do isn't going to kill them. It isn't plasma!

CT has a history of doing things very fairly and kindly and in the past they have turned out well. I don't have the patience she seems to but it works well for her and certainly did for the renter that was being taken advantage of by Capt underpants or whatever we were calling him. Maybe we can learn a lesson from CT.

Those of us who read the thread most likely remember that CT stated she must notify the opposing party by certified mail, which she did and which Piggy replied to, and then wait 30 days from the date of mailing to file. Does anyone have any idea how long or how soon it may take to get a court date in her jurisdiction? In some areas it can take two months to get the first hearing and that is not to hear the claim, just to take the plea and try to get folks to go to mediation, and if mediation does not succeed, it can be another month to get an actual hear-the-case court date. If she had just hustled her hinie into court a few days after the theft, her case most likely would have been dismissed and perhaps not be eligible to be refiled at the proper time.

ETA: I admire CT's restraint and desire to handle this the right way. As I mentioned before, I would have been in that B's office grabbing office supplies and Band-Aids, singing this at the top of my lungs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhzTIKLu_Fc

That shady character became known as . .....
 

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Capt'n Dreadlocks!

While I am sitting on the edge of my chair waiting to hear the outcome, I know that Tator will let us know what happens, when it happens.

Seems that some people have on idea of what is entailed in filing a small claims court action, OR the time it takes to get the thing officially started. If the defendant lawyers up the first court date, it could take months to reach a conclusion.

................You'll are describing small claims court like it was a state district court............Small Claims court is characterized by.....(1)Both parties(usually) represent themselves , (2)Lawyers are NOT necessary , (3)Most likely the judge is elected and Not an attorney himself , (4)The injured party pays a fee , the court then sets a date certain where both parties showUP and present their evidence , then the judge issues a rendered verdict and the cases reach closure without all the complexities that characterize higher level civil trial courts . In Tx , damages have to be less than $10,000 . I'm sure this varies from state to state . , fordy

What I don't get is the "edge of the seat" interest in someone else's petty theft problem. It's the same thing that drives the popularity of all the mindless reality tv shows: people with little in their life living vicariously through others. Sad.

I see it completely differently. How many of us have had petty theft problems we need to deal with and how should we deal with it? With all the opinions here we learn so much.

What kind of evidence do you have and what evidence do you need? How can that be documented? What steps should be taken, letters, certified or not, wait for a response or not? Get a lawyer or not. Will that be costly. Jurisdiction, statute of limitations and law enforcement. What if the police do something or if they do nothing. Small claims court and how long will that take?

Many people read here to learn how *not* to make mistakes to resolve issues and what to do in different situations and this is one of those situations.

Good for you.