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10/07/13, 11:44 AM
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Even with a "simple" three point hitch, I at times have to get my wife to give me a hand... and the problem is.. she is either not strong enough to "bump" the attachment into place, or can get the arm moved enough... or, she can't drive the tractor.. .or rather trust herself enough to not mess up and run things over..
SO, I spend time getting up and down from the tractor some times to get things attached if I can't get them aligned perfectly to attach..
You'd think a 3 point attachment would always be simple to attach, and you don't need much strength.. but some times nothing is simple...
The pin for my bushhog PTO shaft is really easy to push compared to most pin locks. Probably the easiest to push I've come across, but by wife still can't get that one pushed to release the shaft..
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10/07/13, 11:53 AM
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James-I can take some tomorrow. I may have but it would have been a couple of years ago when I first moved out here.
Other than cosmetic issues, there is a knocking in the engine. The man who came out this summer and cleaned out the carburator and charged the battery said it only knocks when it idles so if it were his tractor he would just ignore it. The thing that gets me is that several folks who have seen it (usually some older gentlemen who come out to help with bush hogging or barn building) say that all the people they know who work on old Fords have died. That kind of worries me a bit.
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If the motor knocks when idling it's knocking when running you just don't hear it worn bearings are worn bearings period , forget about it and start looking for a newer model with the right attachments or next month you'll be asking who rebuilds this old tractor and where to find old parts for a worn out under powered boat anchor !
and yes find something with rops (roll over protection ) always wear the seat belt and an old machine while it may work for more experienced owners just fine will be a battle for someone new to tractors and the dangers that come with running any of them . Death or serious injury is a very likely event if over loaded ,not maintained or driven beyond it's capabilities .
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10/07/13, 12:05 PM
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Always take a knowledgeable person along while assessing a used tractor. I take my neighbor along and he takes me along to avoid over looking something.
One time I was considering a JD 620. I was on the seat and engaged the pto and it sounded smooth but the neighbor noticed the pto shaft was bent and wobbling !!! ... something the person operating the tractor would not be able to see easily.
One time I bought a large garden tractor to resale. It had 16 inch rear rims with clam shell fenders. I did not have my neighbor along and as I test drove it I could nor have noticed that it had a wobbling wheel due to a bent axle. So I buy it and advertise it and the first customer came along and wanted to test drive it .... and as he drove it away from me I noticed a significantly wobbling wheel
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10/07/13, 12:21 PM
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What is your price range ? and what exactly do you want to do with it ? is your property flat or steep ? how big is your land ? do you have livestock or plan on getting some ? is your driveway paved or gravel ?
personally the cub cadet would be a great first tractor if you could buy it for $5,000.00 you would be way ahead of the game and happy with what it could do for you and diesel 4x4 with a loader is the way to go and resale stays high . it all depends on your budget and needs which an old 2 wheel drive tractor will not meet soon after you buy it . go back and try to renegotiate
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10/07/13, 12:28 PM
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Don't buy a bunch of problems. No matter how cheap it may seem.
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10/07/13, 12:35 PM
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What is your price range ? and what exactly do you want to do with it ? is your property flat or steep ? how big is your land ? do you have livestock or plan on getting some ? is your driveway paved or gravel ?
personally the cub cadet would be a great first tractor if you could buy it for $5,000.00 you would be way ahead of the game and happy with what it could do for you and diesel 4x4 with a loader is the way to go and resale stays high . it all depends on your budget and needs which an old 2 wheel drive tractor will not meet soon after you buy it . go back and try to renegotiate
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If I remember right, she only has a couple acres... I've got an old 2 wheel tractor, and short of cutting new roads on a hillside, it does all I need and then some... short of not having a loader on it... but it pulls it all...
There are more used for sale 2 wheel drive gas tractors out there than 4 wheel diesel.. because they built more.. must have been good for something since they built so many..
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10/07/13, 12:44 PM
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If I remember right, she only has a couple acres... I've got an old 2 wheel tractor, and short of cutting new roads on a hillside, it does all I need and then some... short of not having a loader on it... but it pulls it all...
There are more used for sale 2 wheel drive gas tractors out there than 4 wheel diesel.. because they built more.. must have been good for something since they built so many..
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Not everyone has flat dry ground or no need of a loader , why direct a new tractor owner to old equipment that may not meet their needs ? and a functioning 3 point hitch is a must for a 2 wheel drive tractor with no loader , There are plenty of 2 wd tractors without loaders because they are less useful than diesel 4x4 with a loader ,that should just be common sense .
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10/07/13, 12:50 PM
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Well.. I keep telling my wife I want to name our farm Vertical Acres because most of the land is pretty much vertical... Even with a 4 wheel drive, a big chunk of my land isn't derivable with any tractor unless you want to roll it.. For the places you can safely drive a tractor on, I can drive my 2x on it..
I agree.. a loader really is a must to me on a tractor... Bot for others, they don't need a loader...
I agree, she doesn't need an old worn out tractor, but if she is considering something along the lines of this old tractor, then she evidently doesn't feel the need for a shiny new 4x4 with a loader either... There are some well kept low hour tractors out there from the 70's 80's and 90's that wound't break the bank.. they just may not be as pretty...
She has a Ford, but doesn't like the Select-o-speed on it... but it is simpler to drive than a 6 seed high/low shift with dual reverse speeds.. She has a good tractor, but for some reason thinks she needs to go backwards and get something older and not as useful...
I seem to remember her saying she only had a couple acres and mostly wanted to garden... not raise cattle and hay and such..
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10/07/13, 12:57 PM
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I found this old thread while searching for a tiller attachment on Google.
Any one garden with a Farmall 140?
Some of y'all thought it was a good tractor!
I need it for maintaining a fairly big garden ... about an acre. I have about 6 acres of pasture to maintain, too. I will use it to mow the yard that isn't garden or pasture. I don't care much about a bucket; I can hand shovel the barn 2x yearly but it would be nice to have a way to make my manure pile higher instead of wider. I'd like to disc up either side of the driveway and get some wildflowers planted but that's a one time thing. I could use it to fix and maintain the fence, but behind the house is mainly 2+ acres of woods so the tractor really won't be useful there.
After reading the above thread I'm worried about the block. I need a friend who knows tractors.
And a fast hitch is $600 on eBay !!!  Wow.
I am not in the market to finance a tractor. Our 2nd car will be paid for in February and I want to sink any extra cash into paying off this land fast. I can't stand the idea of any more payments. I'm so over a "payment" after having had something financed for the better part of my adult life.
ITA about the safety issue. I did feel like I could be thrown off that thing in a hot minute. I saw something about weights on the wheels; does that help? And wouldn't you NOT want a seat belt so you can jump off if the thing is going down? I saw the movie The Man in the Moon and I know you can die being run over by a tractor. I do want to be safe. And we have just a few up and down hills out here in the pasture but the yard/garden area is about 95% just flat. If I'm headed down towards the barn it's got a bit of a slope but it's not what I would call "hilly" by any means.
And no, I don't chew.
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10/07/13, 12:57 PM
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get yourself a tractor with a loader bucket,4x4 and hydrostatic transmission.it will work circles around others.....when i become president..first law i will pass will be ALL TRACTORS sold will have loader buckets and 4x4 and hydro....roflmao
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10/07/13, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by simi-steading
Well.. I keep telling my wife I want to name our farm Vertical Acres because most of the land is pretty much vertical... Even with a 4 wheel drive, a big chunk of my land isn't derivable with any tractor unless you want to roll it.. For the places you can safely drive a tractor on, I can drive my 2x on it..
I agree.. a loader really is a must to me on a tractor... Bot for others, they don't need a loader...
I agree, she doesn't need an old worn out tractor, but if she is considering something along the lines of this old tractor, then she evidently doesn't feel the need for a shiny new 4x4 with a loader either... There are some well kept low hour tractors out there from the 70's 80's and 90's that wound't break the bank.. they just may not be as pretty...
She has a Ford, but doesn't like the Select-o-speed on it... but it is simpler to drive than a 6 seed high/low shift with dual reverse speeds.. She has a good tractor, but for some reason thinks she needs to go backwards and get something older and not as useful...
I seem to remember her saying she only had a couple acres and mostly wanted to garden... not raise cattle and hay and such..
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I use this 1992 John Deere daily and would be lost without it and altho it's not cheap less than $10,000.00 it has worked well and can be easily towed using a utility trailer if need be I think they need to reassess the cub cadet if for no other reason as it will hold it's value and cover most any need they would have up to 5 acres
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10/07/13, 12:59 PM
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PP, I was talking of pictures of your Ford....James
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Ooops.
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10/07/13, 01:01 PM
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Yes... I'd like to see some pictures of the Ford you have too... Sounds to me like what you had said before that you have a decent tractor that would fit your needs, but you just aren't sure of the tranny and shifting on it..
If you were to buy the tractor you posted here, you're going backwards big time compared to what you already have...
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10/07/13, 01:35 PM
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Okay. The man who told me about this tractor knows the man who works on it for the gentleman who is selling it. I shared my concerns about the engine block and how I would have no way of knowing if it were cracked ... And he said that it was a darn good tractor. He said the engine is not cracked and there is no water in the oil. Guess that's a good thing.
I've not been home yet since leaving this morning but I will get pics of the Ford before the sun goes down. But that doesn't mean I will like it.
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10/07/13, 01:36 PM
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But I'm really thinking a mule just might be the way to go ....
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10/07/13, 01:37 PM
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I don't think anyone is saying that it is not a good tractor. It's vintage proves that it at least once was. It's just that it is not likely the best choice for someone new to tractors, nor is it even remotely convenient for changing implements/configurations. Too, the only report on it, from someone with some mechanical knowledge that inspected it, is that it may have a knock.
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I am not in the market to finance a tractor. Our 2nd car will be paid for in February and I want to sink any extra cash into paying off this land fast. I can't stand the idea of any more payments. I'm so over a "payment" after having had something financed for the better part of my adult life.
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Then don't. That is a defined reason not to, and sounds like a pretty clear decision. Fortunately, there are LOTS of steps between financing a new one, and buying a worn out clunker without the basic safety equipment.
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ITA about the safety issue. I did feel like I could be thrown off that thing in a hot minute.
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You're right. You probably could be thrown off, but the worse, and more likely, scenario is it rolling over on top of you.
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I saw something about weights on the wheels; does that help?
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Wheel weights, loaded tires, counter-weights etc. all help with stability, but none of them will do a darned thing to keep the machine from curshing you should it roll over.
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And wouldn't you NOT want a seat belt so you can jump off if the thing is going down? I saw the movie The Man in the Moon and I know you can die being run over by a tractor. I do want to be safe.
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Think of it like a race car roll-cage and harness. When used together, the harness holds the driver safely in place within the cage, and the cage keeps the driver from getting crushed. If the cage is used w/o a harness, the driver could crash into the cage and split their melon. If the harness is used without the cage, and the roof starts to collapse, the driver can't fold out of the way. Same with a ROPS and seat-belt. You NEVER wear a seatbelt on a tractor without a roll bar. If you have a roll bar and don't wear your seatbelt, you are just as likely to be crushed by the roll bar than any other part of the tractor. If you use them both together, and the tractor flips, you're left hanging safetly in place inside the roll bar - ALIVE.
And, no, you can't count on being able to jump off. More than one ninja has died attempting it, there is next to no hope for you or me to pull it off.
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And we have just a few up and down hills out here in the pasture but the yard/garden area is about 95% just flat. If I'm headed down towards the barn it's got a bit of a slope but it's not what I would call "hilly" by any means.
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It doesn't take much. Because your tractor doesn't have suspension, something that would feel like a mild bump in your truck, will make your butt sprout teeth and try to eat the seat if you go over it on your tractor. Plenty of tractor roll-over deaths happened on "flat ground". It's the drainage ditch, a big rock, or a hole in the ground that gets you.
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10/07/13, 01:39 PM
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Well... a mule would be faster than chasing old broken tractors and cheaper on fuel  Sounds like their trying to push you into that old tractor ? he must need the money and his friends are helping him . I'd pass on it for sure ...
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10/07/13, 01:50 PM
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Nice box scraper.. what brand is that? Not seen one like that with that heavy of plates for the top link connection... almost looks over engineered in that area..
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10/07/13, 01:57 PM
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Nice box scraper.. what brand is that? Not seen one like that with that heavy of plates for the top link connection... almost looks over engineered in that area..
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There is a tractor dealer in white pine ,Tn who sells locally built attachments that are built like a tank would be and comes HIGHLY recommended around here ! There prices are great and everything I buy will come from that father and son local attachment builder from now on .In my opinion they are very well overbuilt and cheap by other chinese made standards . Buy American locally built items or don't buy anything !
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10/07/13, 02:02 PM
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But I'm really thinking a mule just might be the way to go ....
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Those things not only roll over, lay down in the middle of the road and eat a lot... they are pretty good at kicking too.
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