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10/03/13, 01:33 PM
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Also I've been meaning to remind you to make sure your vehicle is good to below 30 for your trips over mountain. Getting my antifreeze checked this week. And if you use your emergency brake, stop or it could freeze.
My stove is a Frontier, a real workhorse..
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10/03/13, 10:26 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the antifreeze issue, I am good to go only because my sons father had me demonstrate to him I knew how to check. Uggg, that was a joke, LOL.
I have heard the EPA changed their numbers for emissions in August, does anyone know if that is correct?
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10/04/13, 02:42 PM
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Was 12 degrees this morning. Nice for a few hours in the p.m. though. This weekend should nice just cold nights. October is squirrel month, you know gotta get it done. I call it also ECHO mode because it's how I feel.
Have you checked the Klamath County web site, they have a lot of good info there.
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10/04/13, 11:08 PM
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We had a Jotul cast iron stove a few years back. I loved that little stove. It wasn't a catalytic stove, but it did heat well and we banked it at night and still had embers in the morning so it was easy getting a new fire started.
http://jotul.com/us/products/stoves
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10/05/13, 05:02 PM
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We have a kitchen queen stove for cooking and heating. It is basically a wood destruction device. My mom would say it takes enough wood to roast an ox for frying an egg. Once it is heated up and I want to do some serious cooking, I have to open windows and doors as it gets too hot. If we were doing it again from scratch I would consider a rocket stove for heating. Especially since we are getting older and the fuel reduction is a big consideration.
http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp
I am considering a make shift one for canning outside for next year.
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10/05/13, 08:47 PM
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Vermont soap stone is the next one we will get. I have and use a free standing metal stove called King. It has done well. Soap stone would hold the heat longer so I do not have to get up at 3 am to stoke the fire. We heat 1250 Sq feet.
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We’ve got a Hearthstone soapstone stove (Heritage model) and it’s amazing. A load burns about 8 hrs, then it radiates heat for about another 6-8. It really cuts down on wood consumption.
We heat about 1800’ upstairs, then use the geothermal fan system to move warm air downstairs.
Chuck
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10/06/13, 08:40 AM
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Dont want to start another thread and have a question for you experts. First winter here and this came with the house.

It is positioned nearly in the middle of the house, which is 2100sqft ranch but i only need to heat 1600 the rest is storage at far end (converted garage) no water there so no heat needed.
The stove has a blower in the back and some pipes the air comes out of, but the firebox is just a plain box nothing fancy. Is this stove worthwhile? I ave about 2cords choped up from cleaning up this summer but am wondering if it is worth making firewood for this stove or if it wont be efficent. I checked with power company (heat pump and baseboard) and the bill for prior owner went as high as 500$!!! Not sure how warm they kept it...
Downsides i work 4- 12 hours shifts (plus lunch pluss commute im gone 14-15hours) so at best i could only use at night and on off days. I do have reversable cieling fans to get the heat moving.
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10/06/13, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck R.
We’ve got a Hearthstone soapstone stove (Heritage model) and it’s amazing. A load burns about 8 hrs, then it radiates heat for about another 6-8. It really cuts down on wood consumption.
We heat about 1800’ upstairs, then use the geothermal fan system to move warm air downstairs.
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Geothermal fan system, what is that?
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10/06/13, 03:53 PM
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Geothermal fan system, what is that?
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The primary heating/cooling for our house is geothermal. One of the features is the ability to circulate air indoors from zone to zone. So we circulate warm air downstairs when burning the wood stove, or circulate cooler air upstairs when using the AC. The control unit allows you to program fan duration and power, it's kind of like putting a ceiling fan in reverse, but uses the existing ductwork.
The unit also has a filtered air exchange, which was needed due to the ICF construction being pretty air tight. When we had the woodstove installed, it required an external air intake to be able to draft correctly, again due to the ICF construction.
Chuck
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10/06/13, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck R.
The primary heating/cooling for our house is geothermal. One of the features is the ability to circulate air indoors from zone to zone. So we circulate warm air downstairs when burning the wood stove, or circulate cooler air upstairs when using the AC. The control unit allows you to program fan duration and power, it's kind of like putting a ceiling fan in reverse, but uses the existing ductwork.
The unit also has a filtered air exchange, which was needed due to the ICF construction being pretty air tight. When we had the woodstove installed, it required an external air intake to be able to draft correctly, again due to the ICF construction.
Chuck
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Don't those systems usually require electricity?
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10/06/13, 04:51 PM
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Usually people do design these things with electricity but these can be designed with natural convection loops. I have this setup in both our old farm house that we now use as a barn, our cottage and our butcher shop. A tower, e.g., head, makes things happen. We get a nice drafting.
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10/06/13, 05:08 PM
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Don't those systems usually require electricity?
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Yup, primary is electric.
Backup is a 20KW whole house standby generator that runs off a 500 gallon propane tank.
Chuck
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10/06/13, 08:45 PM
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I have a Hearthstone Mansfield soapstone stove and I really love it - I went from 10 rick a year with a fireplace insert that wouldnt put out any heat when the power was off to maybe 4 rick a year. Works great electric or not - I love the way the soapstone radiates heat. We rarely fill the stove, put a few sticks in in the morning and fill it 1/2 full in the evening - Heats the whole house very comfortably.
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10/07/13, 09:41 PM
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Loving the advice, thank you...
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10/07/13, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Conhntr
Dont want to start another thread and have a question for you experts. First winter here and this came with the house.

It is positioned nearly in the middle of the house, which is 2100sqft ranch but i only need to heat 1600 the rest is storage at far end (converted garage) no water there so no heat needed.
The stove has a blower in the back and some pipes the air comes out of, but the firebox is just a plain box nothing fancy. Is this stove worthwhile? I ave about 2cords choped up from cleaning up this summer but am wondering if it is worth making firewood for this stove or if it wont be efficent. I checked with power company (heat pump and baseboard) and the bill for prior owner went as high as 500$!!! Not sure how warm they kept it...
Downsides i work 4- 12 hours shifts (plus lunch pluss commute im gone 14-15hours) so at best i could only use at night and on off days. I do have reversable cieling fans to get the heat moving.
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That is an excellent stove. Those lower vents make a world of difference. Is that cast iron? cast iron is the best. It hold heat for days. Just install a damper if there isnt one and you will save on wood. Very nice stove, congratulations. it should heat wonderfully !
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10/07/13, 10:46 PM
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rocket stove mass heater sounds like the way to go.
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10/09/13, 03:13 PM
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That is an excellent stove. Those lower vents make a world of difference. Is that cast iron? cast iron is the best. It hold heat for days. Just install a damper if there isnt one and you will save on wood. Very nice stove, congratulations. it should heat wonderfully !
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No damper it has round air holes you can screw a giant knob down on and it chokes the fire out instantly.
I had off work today and it is kinda cool out so i decided to try it. Took at 1.5 hours but is throwing some good heat now and the teapot is boiling. The blower is cycling on/off every few minutes is that normal? I cant get at it without detaching chimney and pulling stove out. All i can see is the plug and it is ANCIENT.
I have been wanting to switch to a coal stove (i live near a railroad supllied coal yard and they do retail sales) but i am giving this wood stove a try. Looks like ill have to replace the blower if i wanna keep it unless its supposed to cycle like that.
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10/09/13, 05:59 PM
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Anthracite or Bit? I burn bit, especially at night, with wood.
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10/09/13, 06:12 PM
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Anthracite. Im kinda sick of the situation. Coal and wood are the only two that are cheao enough to be able to keep my house warm and not pay 500$+ a month on electric! Its aweful that to heat a modes size house with electric (what the government wants you using) it cost almost two weeks pay for a minimum wage earner! Then the rest on obama care and eat with foodstamps and...
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