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Oh tinknal, on the back of your neck!?! Makes me cringe.
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Oh tinknal, on the back of your neck!?! Makes me cringe.
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These are yellow jackets. Yellow jacket nests self destruct every fall and they all die. Before they die however they become very aggressive. Nothing is being pollinated right now and all these critters are going to be dead in a few weeks anyway. As far as honey bees, I haven't seen more than a couple all year.
Dads raspberries have bumble bees, and yellow jackets all over them
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Food for thought (no pun intended), honey bees aren't the only pollinators. I plant purple hull peas every year and the wasps (hornets?) just love them. They crawl all over the stem joint where the beans grow out. I can pick the beans while hundreds of the critters are on the plant and they never get aggressive. We need all the pollenators we can get.
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In fall they BITE us for the meat. I don't care what sex they are, or what they pollinate THEY are DEAD meat.
S-Sally I am all for live and let live, by the way, it's just yellow jackets that get within 2 feet of me.
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This time of year the yellow jackets, wasps, etc quickly find any sweet thing and bring all of their friends back to it.

I raise honeybees and had an odd comb of honey, so I set it out (for the honeybees) and it wasn't very long before it was covered in yellow jackets. Right now, the honeybees are making goldenrod honey which when they evaporate the moisture gives off a strong scent. I've seen yellow jackets flying around the hives, trying to get in to get some honey.

The frosting wouldn't be killing them. It's just that the frosting would have a certain amount of grease which is causing the water to lose it's surface tension. They simply fall in and get covered, and can't get back out and drown.

Now, is the frosting GOOD for you? Uh . . . . probably not. But in moderation it's not going to kill you.
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Food for thought (no pun intended), honey bees aren't the only pollinators. I plant purple hull peas every year and the wasps (hornets?) just love them. They crawl all over the stem joint where the beans grow out. I can pick the beans while hundreds of the critters are on the plant and they never get aggressive. We need all the pollenators we can get.
Cowpeas are self-fertile and don't need pollinators. The wasps are attracted to what are called nectaries which are on both stems and leaves. They serve no purpose for pollination.

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This thread makes me wonder if a person might help the queen bumblebees survive the winter if we were to put out small containers of sugar water like we do for humming birds.
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These are yellow jackets. Yellow jacket nests self destruct every fall and they all die. Before they die however they become very aggressive.

I knew someone who was studying for her PhD in entomology and she said the aggressive yellow jackets you find in the fall are males that can't sting and are just a nuisance not a threat. And their days are numbered.

Just looked it up and found this:

"From late summer into early fall the queen produces queen and male yellowjackets. Each nest can produce thousands of new queens. Queens and males swarm from the nest and mate. The males, workers, and old queens die as winter approaches. Newly mated queens seek overwintering sites in protected places such as logs, under bark or leaf litter, and occasionally in structures. They remain dormant through the winter and begin the cycle once again in the spring."

http://web.aces.uiuc.edu/vista/pdf_pubs/YLLWJKT.PDF
Not what this says: http://www.orkin.com/stinging-pests/...et-life-cycle/
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Cowpeas are self-fertile and don't need pollinators. The wasps are attracted to what are called nectaries which are on both stems and leaves. They serve no purpose for pollination.

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Interesting, Martin. What are "nectaries"?
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Nectaries are glands which are either within a flower or elsewhere on a plant and which produce nectar. When within the flower, it is to attract pollinators. When outside the flower, it is to attract protectors. The wasps are "hired guns". First paragraph of link below explains it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nectar

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Today I was out in the woods and suddenly my back started to burn. Then my legs. That's when I heard the buzzing and saw the yellow jackets. I ran a short distance and they followed me. The little buggers were crawling up both legs inside my pants so I dropped my pants and started crushing them. They started to swarm so I pulled the pants up and ran some more and then dropped my drawers again to finish crushing them. One even got me on the jaw. They were even stinging the dog so I had to crush those too. I think I've got at least 8 stings.

Evidently they don't like it when you stand over their ground nest.

They looked like yellow jackets but seemed smaller and shorter. Normally I can block the pain of a yellow jacket sting but not these guys although it's been years since I had any practice.
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Your observation was correct in looking like yellow jackets but smaller. You just met up with the native yellow jackets which are barely holding on in places. They are losing ground to the larger imported ones. The native ones almost always nest in the ground and they are indeed a bit feisty around their nest.

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Today I was out in the woods and suddenly my back started to burn. Then my legs. That's when I heard the buzzing and saw the yellow jackets. I ran a short distance and they followed me. The little buggers were crawling up both legs inside my pants so I dropped my pants and started crushing them. They started to swarm so I pulled the pants up and ran some more and then dropped my drawers again to finish crushing them. One even got me on the jaw. They were even stinging the dog so I had to crush those too. I think I've got at least 8 stings.

Evidently they don't like it when you stand over their ground nest.

They looked like yellow jackets but seemed smaller and shorter. Normally I can block the pain of a yellow jacket sting but not these guys although it's been years since I had any practice.
Feels like little hot pokers doesn't it?

To this day they are to only thing in the world to make me run in a blind panic. You just want to get away.
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I got stung a lot by yellow jackets when I lived in AK. I would ride my bike around the city trail and they would hit me in the chest and sting. Somehow I learned to let my mind go blank and there would be no pain and no swelling later.

The stings on my back still hurt and it's been about 8 hours.

I didn't know that there was an imported yellow jacket or that our native species were smaller.
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The imported ones are called German yellow jackets although they are from all over Europe. The native ones are same family but smaller.

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I may have to try this, thanks for the idea lol!


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Yesterday I was making my way back to the logging trail and I tried to break a small dead tree that was leaning across my path. It didn't break but I heard a thud. Then my dog came off the trail and stopped and started shaking her head. That's when I saw she was in a swarm of wasps. The tree I tried to break was only 10' tall and the swarm was a good 20' away. I don't know how I could have knocked it down because there weren't any connections to where the nest would have been.

Then this morning I was moving some polypipe in the yard and at the end was another swarm. I stirred up the nest with the pipe I guess. I had just walked over that spot a few days ago.

It makes me wish we had a better skunk population this year.
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Check this out. 41 people stung to death.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_2422086...twincities.com
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Interesting discussion, folks. Thanks.
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