Love Animals.. Something To Chew On

This guy sounds like one of those new age people, that is on some kind of mind-altering drug.

From what I understand (limited experience, you know... ) if we make them smoke it, it will make them into more laid back, biddable lions....

Of course, they'll have the munchies....

Tracy

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I think the most amusing part is the part that said animals in a natural environment lead a peacefull and tranquil existance,,,,rolflmao

I will send you some healing energies to heal your aura and chi. Just tap into the life energy and become whole, with the oneness of one.

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Oh MY GOSH! I did not read the whole thing before. That person was like smoking something while inhaling something while getting beat in the head.

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You know, whenever I watch those nature shows or contemplate the food chain in nature, there are a lot of violent deaths of the prey at the jaws and claws of the preditors. I can't even imangine being eaten by a cougar or torn apart by a hawk, etc. Life, death, and survival in nature is tough, very tough for all. A lot of prey suffer long painful deaths. I think nature probably has blessed those species with more tolerance to pain than man for this reason. Many species are carnivores, so I do not feel bad about being an omnivore. Yes, I think we should eat meat sparingly, but meat is still in my food chain. When one considers the conditions in the wild, I think giving food animals free room, board, and health care is not a bad idea. We should take the best care of these creatures as we can--food, shelter, protection, meds, etc. However sometimes they do take an early retirement with little suffering. I have seen the huge amount of fat trimmed off of cattle at slaughter--and all that comes from a vegan diet. I guess some people are too locked up in the city to understand what real life is about.

I Love Animals--They're delicious!
PETA--People for Eating Tasty Animals.

Yes, I know a very overweight vegetarian. Potato chips, popcorn (fake butter, unless lacto-ovo) ect are vegetarian. Our bodies are meant to eat some meat, though likely not as much as the average american eats!

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I went back & read it again & it was even more disgusting than the first time!
What an idiot!! If people in Bible times were so stupid, how did all those pyramids get built? And he must not have read the part that said man was
given dominion over the animals.
Anyway... he'll probably feel much better in his " soft, new, feminine world that's coming".

Yea, the reason the new world that is coming is because of the female hormones in our milk and meat. All the men shall soon be turned to fairies.

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This guy got that way & he doesn't eat meat!!! Go figure.

The point I am trying to make is that humans are not so much a physical evolution (our body is just a sensory gathering mechanism), we are an etheric evolution.

We don't know as yet if there are any other human-like evolutions in our galaxy or even in the universe. But we do know that there are other etheric evolutions. I'll now talk about these and my experiences with them, I feel they are linked to the feilds of control.

By its very nature, the desire for control is a desire for immortality, control is addictive to the ego. When one seeks to dominate, what one is really seeking is a god-like power over others. So a third world despot who executes some and elevates others sets himself up as a god over his people.

To be god-like grants the ego the illusion that it is different from and seperate to the destiny of men. which is of course to die.
All those that seek to control and dominate, do so as a death- avoidance mechanism.
The death they hope to avoid may not be a literal death but simply the death of an idea; the status quo, a job, or speciel importanceor privilege a person may enjoy. It's the death of their cherished ideas, as well of the body, that they try to avoid.

Immortality, is of course, is a false god of the ego.which seeks to remain ever young , potent and powerful.
It squirms to avoid the physical plane's second law of Thermodynamics, which requires everything in the universe to degenerate and cool down- a heat death, which is measured at -273'C (absolute zero)

Eternity is warm and that is a factor of spirit not a factore of the physical plane. In its most basic form, the warmth of eternity forms part of outr nostalgia for God - The desire for spirit to return to eternity, our true god-like nature, which gives us heat.

Our world is cold compared to the world of spirit. Our people are cold, spookily cold. I have often wondered how we are supposed to save them.
In theory, a strong person could redeem them. but in practice it is unlikely. It makes me sad. Many fell so low they can not escape. there was no one that that cared for them enough; but in a way it was there fault. They had such little goodness in them, no real goodness, just a phony social demeanor. Mr nice guy, yeah, yeah - kick the little dog in the head when no one is looking.

It's not suprising that people have headed of the path, as our little planet is littered with false prophets and false gods of desire, like the ego's desire for immortality. Look at how Americans worship at the alter of longetivity, cosmetic sugery, facelifts, jogging (which kills you anyway) , this fad, and that diet.

then there's the modern American obsession with rigorously controling everyone's habits, no this no that. Here's your condom, stick it over your brain in case you get impregnated with non-authorized ideas. Americans are so strange; they keep laboring under the illusion that they are important, that somehow the world couldn't manage without them. It makes me giggle sometimes. It's hopelessly pathetic to think you are important. It is even more hopeless to say so.

Like the bimbo in the hair commercial Who tosses her locks about "Look at me, look at me, I am so so lovely." The commerical ends with her saying "becaurse I am worth it." cringe, cring - poor girl.

Hint - Stay away from the shampoo in case it seeps through your skull into your brain and makes you as egocentric and as drone like as her.

Remember if you think this journey has anything to do with you, then you have completely lost the plot.


Stuart Wilde

To simplify, Stuart, you took a full page to say "Blessed are the meek and humble" the rest of your message seems to be ramblings from an hallucinogenic agent

Yes, I love chewing on animals as long as they are seasoned just right.....

mc

Love Animals.. Something To Chew On

Isn't this a double entendre?

They guy sounds like an atheist or agnostic or just plain high. If he thinks animals are that smart and feeling and caring and sympathetic, he has obviously never spent much time with them. some are smarter than others but none close to a human. There isn't a dog alive that compares to my child at 3yr. She was starting to read, had an extensive vocabulary (Momma I am so frustrated that this toy won't operate correctly. I think I'll sit it down for a while and come back to it later. Perhaps after a nap. - A real statement from my then 3 yr. old). God gave us dominion over the animals. In doing so I think we are obligated to treat them humanely. But we have the right to do with them as we see fit within that humanity towards them. This guy should really put down the pipe and come back to earth. It's really not such a bad place.

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You know stuart, in one thread you advocate eating pork as the one safe meat, and then in another thread castigate eating meat entirely. Maybe you need to lay off the jaggermeister

I wanted to bring this back up, because it's something that's bothering me. I grew up on a farm, I've seen slaughterings, said goodbye to the pigs that I'd originally brought home in my lap, lost my pet lamb to a "petting zoo" in a move so transparent that even at six I knew he was coming back to us wrapped in brown paper etc, etc.

I've eaten meat all my life, though recently, I've been having second thoughts. I know that life requires death to be sustained. It's a fact. But I wonder if, being a sentient human being, maybe it's my job to try to minimize my impact. "All beings fear suffering and death" - I know they do, because I've seen the look on a steer's face when he's being backed into a truck for processing. If by eating more beans and rice, i can save him that suffering, is that my responsibility?

It doesn't sit right with me, and whenever I eat meat (about twice a month) I think about these things. I don't take the lives of the animals I consume for granted, but not taking them for granted doesn't make me feel any better.

And yet I realize, human beings generally eat meat. Isn't it honourable to be a part of a movement to ensure that the animals they will eat suffered only at the end of their lives, and not all the way through, the way they do in factory farming?

I don't think it is morally wrong to kill something to survive. I kill bacteria with antibiotics, I pull up weeds, I swat the mosquito biting my leg, I eat plants that were once flowering and exisiting. But if I can survive in a way that causes less suffering, should I?

It's one of my major reservations about farming, because I know this is a fact of life. Animals need to be culled. Things need to be bought with the money you'll get from meat. I know when it comes, I'll do what needs to be done. And I think that by homesteading, I'll be reducing the suffering I cause in the world in many other ways - by producing lest waste, pollution, etc.

I was just wondering if other people struggle about this, or if it's just too "pansy" and issue to worry your pretty little head about for the average homesteader.

I struggled with it for some time, then I just stopped eating it all together. It has been several years since I have eaten a bit of "meat" and I DO believe it is important to not contribute to unnecessary suffering for any creature (humans included)

In my Church the first "rule" is FIRST DO NO HARM. I feel that factory farming conditions are 100% harm and don't want to support it or be a part of it. I feel somewhat differently about regular ol' farmers who are humanely milking cows and harvesting eggs, but tbh, this is few and far between in America.

...steps of the soapbox before getting too irate

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hmmm,...When we sold our pig I walked him into a fenced area, gave him and his brother some corn and told the pig today was his day, he sat and watched me walk around and shut his brother up in the stall, he didn't act up when strangers arrived, or approched him to shoot him, pig stayed suprisingly calm through it all,
it may have been the tummy full of wild plums

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I believe the way farm animals are raised and butchered is much more ethical than breeding and feeding operations. Processed meat is dangerous for humans, although I won't tell you I don't eat any of it because I still eat meat in Restaurants.
I do believe if more people had to kill their own food, they probably just wouldn't eat meat. We eat our own farm raised animals, but they are raised healthy and killed very humanely right here on our farm. Humanely as in VERY quickly and all parts are used. To me that's important - you shouldn't waste something that just gave up it's life for you. And we don't kill that many, only enough to supply us with the meat we need.
I read a book one time, about pioneer families, that described them praying before they took the life of an animal for food. The deer we have in our freezer was blessed by a ceremonial prayer by the hunter.
It's all about respect for life and death of something that once had a living spirit, and to me that makes a big difference.

In factory processing animals are nothing but a commodity and their treated that way.

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