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09/18/13, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Central Oregon
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Good camouflage. Gotta admire the skill of Mother Nature.
I've got a blue merle dog and if it weren't for his white feet, you wouldn't see him at dusk when he is in the rocks. Just flat disappears, except for those paws.
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09/18/13, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina
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Looks like a smaller one here----look at the Original picture close if i got this one to small.
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09/19/13, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central New York State
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I saw the one below the small stick rather quickly. I didn't see the one near the tree. For any of us that didn't see both, it looks as though we might have gotten bitten!
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09/19/13, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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I still don't see the small one but it doesn't matter. I would have been levitating so high off the ground, neither could reach me.
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09/19/13, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MOgal
I still don't see the small one but it doesn't matter. I would have been levitating so high off the ground, neither could reach me.
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I am not sure there is a "small" one, could be a stick, it just has some markings like a copperhead. Look for the Hursheys Kisses shape on the side---I only see 2/3 of those shapes and its lighter in color---but I have seen many copperheads that lite in color.
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09/20/13, 04:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Ohio
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Its amazing how well they blend in. I looked hard and didnt see it until fire man pointed it out.
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09/20/13, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: central Missouri
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I recently read this:
"A pit viper is best identified by two small holes located on its face, one beneath each eye."
While this may be the best "scientific" identification, I would advise none of you to depend upon it. Many people get the "pits" and the "nostrils" confused, and in some snakes the coloring makes the pits really difficult to see unless one gets up close. If the snake is any size, that will proably bring your face into easy strinking range.
I have learned to recognize the three poisonous snakes we have around here in a general way. That is, most non poisonous snakes I can tell easily. Sometimes one will run onto a few snakes that resemble a copper head. It is always good to error on the safe side and stay back untill one is sure.
I am not familiar with Coral snakes, but they are not pit vipers. As I understand it they are small snakes that tend to hide in bushes and foliiage. If I would see a brightly banded yellow, red, and black snake, I think I would check the "red to black" thing before I assumed it was a Scarlett King snake (which I guess live in the same area)
Water moccasins (cotton mouths) are usually dark, and short as snakes go and usually quite thick or fat. (a pilot black snake big around as a 50-cent piece might be 8' long while a cotton mouth as big around as a silver dollar might only be a couple of feet long) Rattle snakes have the rattles, and you have all been looking at the copper head.
BTW. Many baby snakes have colorings and markings grossly similar to a copper head. So you may not want to go killing every baby snake you see that bears even a small resemblence. On the other hand, be careful, because baby copper heads carry the same poison as adults.
For instance, this is a baby "black rat snake" which is one of the best snakes to have around your homestead:
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09/20/13, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Middle Tennessee
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I have had just one encounter with a copperhead (and hope it is my only one). I was with my boss doing historic building survey in a rural area. The building we were looking at was abandoned and stuffed with various junk - two red flags for me. Sure enough, in the leaf litter in front of the house, I spotted just a small glimpse of it, one step away. I yelped and probably jumped two feet in the air, springing for the gravel road. My know-it-all boss stood looking at it, proclaiming "it doesn't look poisonous."
I think there is a cosmic law, kind of like cats gravitating to cat-haters: Snake haters are always the ones who will have snake encounters.
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09/20/13, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NC
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Regular thing around here. We have disposed of 5 this year. Scooped up some leaves last year with the front in loader. Wife was up in the trailer pitching them out in the garden when she saw movement.
Another good reason to have your CCW.
Got one bigger than this one this year but no picture........ Rotary mower.
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09/22/13, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East central WI
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Originally Posted by doingitmyself
So would someone show me the snakes. Obviously i would be dead by now.
We mostly have Bull, and Water Moccasin's (cottonmouth ? ), an occasional Blue Racer, no idea what that even is. I know the farmers wont kill one for anything. The Bulls that is.
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Pretty sure a blue racer is just a color phase of garter snake. The water moccasins might just be northern water snakes.
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09/22/13, 04:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Minnesota
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Lack of poisonous snakes is one of the reasons that I put up with all the cold and snow here in Minnesota! I'd have never found those snakes in that photo without the help.
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09/29/13, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: South Central Oregon
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It's a beauty!
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11/11/13, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Friday, August 16, 2013
YOU THINK YOU HAVE SNAKE PROBLEMS TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THIS FELLOW THAT LIVES IN CARROLL, COUNTY ARKANSAS HAS!
By Landon Reeves, CCNnews@cox-internet.com
Dale Ertel, owner and proprietor of the educational reptile attraction Snake World, handles the most common venomous snake in Arkansas, the copperhead. As a reptile enthusiast, handler and independent researcher, Ertel has his dream job working with most people's nightmares.
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CARROLL COUNTY -- Local snake and reptile handlers have captured and relocated more than 100 venomous snakes concentrated in one area in the last three weeks.
Sometime after July 23, property owner Jess Christensen started noticing a lot of snake activity in the evening around his house, located on County Road 717 just north of Metalton.
"Really what really hit me was how close they were to the house," Christensen said. "I just looked at the statistics and knew that one day I will be bitten if I don't do anything, so I thought to get a professional opinion about it."
t time he called, he said he'd seen over a dozen in his yard," Ertel said. "So a friend of mine and I went out there the following night and we found over 12 that first night, and we have been back several times since, and it seems like every time we have gone back we are finding at least 12."
Ertel's friend counted more than 118 snakes collected from Christensen's property; Christensen gave up counting after 70. The snakes they are collecting are mostly male and all copperheads, Arkansas's most common venomous snake, according to experts.
The snakes mostly eat insects and frogs but as they grow, so does their prey. Older copperheads go after bigger game like rodents and lizards.
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11/11/13, 03:30 PM
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aka avdpas77
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: central Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcross
Pretty sure a blue racer is just a color phase of garter snake. The water moccasins might just be northern water snakes.
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A blue racer is in by no means whatsover a garter snake... they are totally different. Neither are poisonous.
A nothern water snake is also not even close to a (cotton mouth) water moccasin. The various "water snakes" are agressive but not poisionous. The watter moccasin, while it usually lives in or near water is very poisonous.
There is no record of anyone in good health of being killed by a copperhead. As far as I can tell there is only one person on record that died as a result of a bite, and he had heart issues. That being said, it is still a very dangerous snake that has causes a lot of people severe and dangerous problems with its bite. As I understand it, many trauma centers are no longer carrying copperhead antivenom as its effects are can be as are almost as sever as the bite, and there is not enough call for it to make it profitable to the pharmectical industry.
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11/11/13, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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copperhead
I live in Md. the copperheads here are the same color of as a new penny. Never saw one that looked like this.
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11/12/13, 07:47 AM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: New York bordering Ontario
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Originally Posted by jkhs
Lack of poisonous snakes is one of the reasons that I put up with all the cold and snow here in Minnesota! I'd have never found those snakes in that photo without the help.
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Yes! I'll stay in NYS, thanks, only a few very small areas with poisonous snakes here. The very idea that you have to watch where you step when you are outside around your house freaks me out.
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11/13/13, 03:57 PM
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aka avdpas77
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: central Missouri
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Copperheads like to lie on paths or rocks to catch the sun, so they are not always hard to see. They also tend to strike short seveal times whe a person gets close, so in leaves etc, one is often alerted by the movement so it is not as scary as it might seem. One has to keep a good eye on the paths around here anyway or they will end up tripping ove a tree root.
The snake in the picture was either going away from the photographer or it hadn't seen him yet. If it was simply laying there it would have either started to leave or coiled up when he got close. In either case there is movement... one tends to pick up on that... Think how easily Morels would be to find if they would move around a bit
The greatest danger is stepping over a log or something similar over a path or in a clear area. If the sun is hitting the other side, it is a favorite place for them to hang out. You don't seen them and they don't see you till your leg is right beside them. Really, it is just like wasps or rabid animals or anything else. One doesn't worry about them..a person just pays attention to their surroundings. It is a good habit whether one is in the Ozarks or the South side of Chicago.
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