Antique Tractor Fuel Efficiency

ON the old 420 the manuel told how to udjust it for load, light to heavy. On light loads....put...put...put....heavy loads putputputputputputputputputput...dead ahead. Only tractor I've had that worked that way, Ms and 40s are the same set up.

Well I will be looking at a diesel David Brown tomorrow with all the bells and whistles. Hope it pans out, looking forward to trying it out, and would like a diesel tractor to go with my other diesels.

I pull a AC All Crop 72 with my 8N. Only thing I have harvested with it so far is wheat. It was everything the 8N wanted, but it didn't have a problem at all. I am so used to throwing the 8N in and out of gear while baling I can easily do it without slowing the baler or combine much. Not live PTO, but it works.

An overrunning clutch makes working with anything PTO powered much easier, at least if you don't have live PTO. My baler has one built in with a large flywheel as well. I think the combine may as well.

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U must live on flat ground nearly. I lived in the Kansas, Mo River foothills, and I had all an F-20 wanted to do to pull a MH #35? I think, up a particular hill I had in wheat. Here in Okla, I was combing milo and had several wet spots, and it was all, on flat ground my Grandads 34 CC Case could do to pull a AC 60 while combining it. I KNOW a Ford N series wouldn't pull those combines in either situation.

I guess mine is an X6 then because it has the 5 speed & live PTO .

I have a DB 990, great tractor, very, very good on fuel. Don't let people tell you that you can't get parts. It's not at all true. And they aren't as dear as a lot of Mother Deeres or Fiats parts either.

Well the David Brown didn't work out, cracked block that I believe the seller honestly didn't know about. It was a major wast of a trip as I broke my own rules and drove the ton truck instead of a scout car first. That was $200 in fuel down the drain. Had several back up tractors and didn't like any of them. I have never driven a WD-45 before, but looked at one that was very clean, but I didn't really like it, so they are no longer on my list. Guess I am used to the Ford. Probably looking at a Ford 861 diesel tomorrow, anyone have experience with one?

My ground is pretty flat, bought it for that reason as I got tired of another piece of ground I have that wasn't flat. I am sure going up a big hill the 8N would not be able to handle the combine, but has no problem on flat ground. I got big tires for an 8N so traction usually isn't a problem. An AC 72 has a 12" larger header than an AC 60. It is a slightly larger combine. My 8N also runs very good, and is probably more powerful than the average 8N.

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I had a Ford like what you are talking about. It was a good workhorse for me. Had an 8' 3 pt. hitch disc and 6' bush hog for it and did fine on both counts. It can handle a 9' haybine and baler. I cut hay with mine using a friends haybine. They usually came with live pto and hydraulics. If it acts up on fuel get a siphon horse made for a kerosene can and clean out the tank if you get the tractor. I had to do this with mine because it sat for awhile.

Er, What is a siphon horse? lol Do you stick the siphon hose into the horse and suck? Hope he don't belch lol.
Well since your stuck on ferds, and I got to agree with you on ACs, and I have a WD, I guess ill just cruse the convo.

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/f...itle=fswd55176

I have one similar to this one.
I don't think it's to bad on fuel but I just mainly mow with it (a lot)
and can run most of the day on 5 gallons. I've had mine for better than 20 years.
This ad states he has a WD45 engine. You just gained 10 horse over a straight WD. PS is a wonderful addition. From the pics it doesn't have it.
I put it on mine for $450. 3 point is not there. Make one or buy a direct fit for about $750. Still under your 3K limit if no other problems are there. Rear rubber is good.

As far as the hand clutch, if you were to look at one, make sure it snaps when you release it. If not, it needs adjusted or is wore out. I have never had a problem and I said I mow a lot with mine. Hand clutch is the primary clutch mowing.

I have worked on several Ferg's and Fords and my WD is hands down better for me. Either love them or you don't. Same with the N series.
Just my input.

Other than that get a diesel.

Fixer, where u at in NE Kansas. I came from between Wathena, and atchison

Got distracted on that. I meant hose. Got questioned on my horse when I was responding to the question about the ford.

lol lol

I have heavily considered a WD45 as they are the cheapest for the HP you get. They also have good parts availability. I have looked at a couple but they have all come up lacking one way or another. The main problem I have with the Allis' is the lack of three point. A lot of my equipment is three point and it would be foolish for me to buy a tractor not equiped with three point. I can find WD and WD45s all day under $1000 but they all have snap couplers. The few with three point have other issues.

I watched this video about the WD45:


It worked on me as I found myself wanting a complete line of Allis snap coupler equipment and a WD45 to play with.

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The snap coupler worked fine. I gave my boy a WD, which sets here. He wants 3pt for it. Ill show him this film someday

As alluded, WD45/WD/D17 (except some Series IV)do not have three-point hitch. The hyhdraulics are one way stock. The mechanism to "hold" a hydraulic position sucks imho. But a lot of power for the money.HAnd clutch is great for combineing. Handle a AC 72 combine with ease. My dream for an antique tractor is a D17 Series IV with true live PTO, factory three point/diesel. Since they are everyones elses dream as well, they come at a premium. But the D17/WD45 are arguably the best tractors AC Made.

We had one, and it was one of the best small tractors I have ever seen. It wouln't pull much of a plow, but it was terriffic for discing, harrowing, mowing, and bush-hogging (except for the non-live PTO). I wish I had bought it when my dad had his auction, but didn't have any place to keep it at the time. I knew it had been kept in good condition because my dad was a stickler for periodic maintenance. Never had any trouble with it other than when the brake lock came loose and it rolled down a hill and the cast front (which acted as a wheel weight) cracked when it hit a tree.

A grill frame casting from JD was very very expensive even back in 1967.




Not ours.

Well we went with the diesel Ford 861 powermaster. It was the right size for what I needed and has live hydraulics and PTO. It has one modern hydraulic outlet which may get use in the future, but I don't have anything with hydraulics currently. My combine did have a hydraulic cylinder on the header to adjust it up and down, but I replaced it with a come along so I could run it with the 8N.

Only bad thing so far is I bent the exhaust pipe a little when I came down the driveway of the new place and went under a tree. Tractor was a little high on the back of the tonner.

Tractor runs real good and fires right up. Seems to have power to spare, especially for the size. I don't have anything demanding to test it with, but will use it to break ground on a new field this fall. Here it is:

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