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07/17/13, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by manfred
He does more damage to my place than I ever do to his, comes down and sets fires that get onto my land. I don't jump on him like I want to fight because of it.
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Two wrongs do not make a Right. You should keep your animals on your place. If he sets a fire and it gets on my place then he would Pay for the damage his fire causes to my property/fence/tree's etc. I get alone good with my neighbors. My Neighbors have been told to make sure there is a fire break because I do Not want Not One of my small trees burnt.
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07/17/13, 04:45 PM
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Trade them for Llamas. Hey I agree with Down home. Goats are browsers and how small is that field anyway? Can not afford a fence stake them out.
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07/17/13, 04:45 PM
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Make the existing fence goat proof. Your livestock, your responsibility.
Keep receipts for all improvements to the fence. Under Oklahoma law, if at sometime in the future he places livestock on his property, you can bill him for half the cost of the improvements, or he will have to remove the livestock from his property.
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07/17/13, 04:55 PM
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Doesn't matter if the dude next door comes down once a year - it's his property - not yours. And your goats are over there and they shouldn't be. You're at fault here and need to make your fence goat proof. He's correct, whether he over reacted or not - fix your fence.
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07/17/13, 05:20 PM
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Old saying..."Good fence's make good neighbor's, and Good neighbor's make good fences!"
Consider yourself fortunate that he didn't catch your goats on his property or you'd probably have some dead goats, and there'd be nothing you could do about it.
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07/17/13, 05:38 PM
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I have Belgians and they have gotten out a couple of times. They went to my neighbors house and grass in the yard and all they did was grab the halters and walked them back. No screaming threats of any kind. This happened when I was working on both occasions. All they did is put the horses back in the barn and locked the gate that they opened. The guy that owns bare ground next to me tried screaming me about some damage that done to his field I turned around went the house and grabbed my shotgun and went back to him and told him to shut up and listen what I had to say. I told him it was his kids that did the damage and not me. After that I never had a problem with him. He has been very nice and cordial with me when we meet out in public since and apologized for his actions.
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07/17/13, 09:30 PM
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Sounds like he thinks he's important don't it. Anyway, are you saying the goats go to the fence and eat the briars along the fence line, or go through the fence? If they are going through the fence, he can agrevate you more than it's worth. I always try to talk calmy with folks about mess like that, but I got a neighbor don't talk to nobody...lets his lawyer talk to'em. Don't bother me though.....scared I'll put a mobile home park behind his farm.
Anyway, you do need to keep your livestock off of his land, it's cheaper than a lawsuit. So is good fencing.
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07/17/13, 10:31 PM
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I guess I am very blessed. Livestock gets out. It happens. I call my neighbor and say "hey, your bull has come for a visit". My neighbor comes and get his bull back in his pasture. My neighbor calls me "hey are you missing a couple horses, they are in my backyard" I say "OMG, I'll be right over". I call my other neighbor and say "hey, I have about 20 steers in my hay field." Neighbor and helpers get steers back in their pasture. We never yell at each other. We help each other when something gets out. Maybe this guy had a bad day and your goats were the final straw. I'd apologize and let him know you will fix the problem.
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07/18/13, 07:00 AM
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What is a "goat-proof" fence?????
geo
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07/18/13, 07:31 AM
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Offer to buy him out.....
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07/18/13, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by geo in mi
What is a "goat-proof" fence?????
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Here is a good example.
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07/18/13, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oneokie
Make the existing fence goat proof. Your livestock, your responsibility.
Keep receipts for all improvements to the fence. Under Oklahoma law, if at sometime in the future he places livestock on his property, you can bill him for half the cost of the improvements, or he will have to remove the livestock from his property.
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Correct, although I'm not for sure exactly how it works. Good neighbors would split the cost for a standard fence any way live stock or not.
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07/18/13, 09:09 AM
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Problem with shared fence is I can not guarantee who will own the neighboring property. If it needs maintenance you can only legally work from your side. They can run their livestock on it. I prefer to keep mine in 2' gives me control of it. you do need to put some stakes up, some people think a fence constitutes a property line.
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07/18/13, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen W
Correct, although I'm not for sure exactly how it works. Good neighbors would split the cost for a standard fence any way live stock or not.
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Not necessarily. If he only wants to grow hay and you want livestock, then it's not really fair to think he's going to pay half of a fence for YOUR animals.
It's appropriate to ask, because he might agree. But it's not appropriate to think he's a bad neighbor if he says no.
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07/18/13, 10:30 AM
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Actually the correct legal term is "adverse possession."
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Originally Posted by rambler
It is your duty to keep your critters off his property.
I recall all the many many threads on here, over a fence that is an inch or 3 off the line, and how ya can't let others use your property or they can claim it by eminent domain.....Paul
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Eminent domain is when the gooberment takes someone's property
for the greater good, but has to compensate for it, at 'fair market value'.
As far as fencing goes however, put one up like this on the property line,
and you won't have worry about the goats getting out, or his fires getting in.
You probably won't have to ever have to see or deal with that "neighbor" ever again!
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Originally Posted by Ernie
Here is a good example.

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07/18/13, 10:58 AM
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Ernie that picture is a riot!!
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07/18/13, 11:05 AM
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I recall all the many many threads on here, over a fence that is an inch or 3 off the line, and how ya can't let others use your property or they can claim it by eminent domain.....
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You're thinking of Adverse Possession or Prescriptive Easement and if you let someone use your property they can't try to take it. To take property thru adverse possession, someone would have to use your property against your wishes or at least without your permission, "openly and notoriously" for a prescribed amount of time, depending on your state. Usually, like 7 years.
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07/18/13, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by geo in mi
What is a "goat-proof" fence?????
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Ain't sitch thang!! Iffen it won't hold water...................
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07/18/13, 11:16 AM
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And THIS is a situation where living in open range is kind of nice.
My sheep got out a couple of times and wandered to our nearest neighbor's house who puts out grain, etc to bait deer to photograph. She called SCREAMING and howling that our sheep were there, demanding this and that and my husband after getting the sheep and ascertaining they had done no damage, finally told her it was open range, put up a fence if she didn't want them there.
I know, not so nice but satisfying nonetheless. She's not the nicest person in the world.
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07/18/13, 11:41 AM
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[QUOTE=Phil V.;6666544] The guy that owns bare ground next to me tried screaming me about some damage that done to his field I turned around went the house and grabbed my shotgun and went back to him and told him to shut up and listen what I had to say. /QUOTE]
Man! Brilliant. Just brilliant!
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