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Wisconsin is a non notify state , you have no duty to notify the cop you are armed , they can ask the you must comply.
check the WI DOJ for carry regs
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07/14/13, 07:14 PM
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Bring a can of bear spray.
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Never heard of that?
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07/14/13, 07:27 PM
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Never heard of that?
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An 8 oz can of bear spray is what is recommended by most grizzly experts to stop a charging griz. It could stop a human predator too and you don't have to aim particularly true. It spreads out in a cloud. Just stay upwind of it.
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07/14/13, 07:43 PM
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Minelson, I can't comment on your question regarding transporting a shotgun but a shotgun isn't what you need to protect yourself from bears, unless you're hoping the noise is a deterrent.
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Yes I was thinking of a noise deterrent. But I could still blow it's face off with my shot gun if it got too close and wouldn't back off.
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07/14/13, 08:12 PM
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Minelson, it's better to follow safe bear protocol in the first place (keep food locked in your truck, no food in your tent, dispose of campsite garbage, don't get between a sow and her cubs, pay attention to your surroundings and carry a can of bear spray). I think you're afraid of the idea of bears and unless they're garbage bears, they tend to avoid humans but I assure you that if it's 'close enough to shoot it's face off,' you're moments away from becoming supper and a trembling woman with a shotgun will not stop a charging bear.
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07/14/13, 08:26 PM
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bears in Wisconsin avoid dogs, and often people too , cause we run them down with dogs every fall one year the dogs go first the next the non dog hunters go first , dogs are sept 4-10 this year and non dogs 11th oct 1 both dogs and non , then oct 2-8 non dog only they are to be out training dogs any day now if they haven't already started buy the time you get here the bear are likely to be good and leery of everyone.
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07/14/13, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LisaInN.Idaho
An 8 oz can of bear spray is what is recommended by most grizzly experts to stop a charging griz. It could stop a human predator too and you don't have to aim particularly true. It spreads out in a cloud. Just stay upwind of it.
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Not to stray off topic too far but I know a guy once that was camping (2 of them so small tent) and accidentally hit the can with the bags and sprayed a short burst into the tent. It was probably a second long from the way he talked before he could move the bag to stop it. The tent was zipped up so he couldn't get out fast. He said he hurt for the entire day from the burning of the eyes.
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07/14/13, 09:01 PM
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Not to stray off topic too far but I know a guy once that was camping (2 of them so small tent) and accidentally hit the can with the bags and sprayed a short burst into the tent. It was probably a second long from the way he talked before he could move the bag to stop it. The tent was zipped up so he couldn't get out fast. He said he hurt for the entire day from the burning of the eyes. 
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I guess he was lucky it wasn't a gun. Ouch!
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07/14/13, 09:32 PM
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Well one of the reasons is because I will be sleeping in a tent in northern WI and I am afraid of bears. 
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Once you are out of the car away from the city, roads, and buildings, you can have the gun out and even loaded (although I would not recommend, or at least do not chamber a round). With respect to bears, keep all food and snacks out of the tent. If you have food, keep it in a sealed large trash bag and either hang up high in a tree or stash in your car trunk. Keep some pots and pans handy to make noise. Shooting the bear would be the last resort.
I have camped many times in N. WI and MN - no problems. These are black bears, not grisly bears. Black bears are very scared of people when in the wild - they have a demeanor similar to a lone tame dog if they run into you. They might get curious and get close to you, but once they know you are human and you make some noise or yell they run for the hills. I have had them come within a few feet of me while hunting or fishing, but never when camping. Problems occur when people start feeding them - then they lose their fear of people. In over 20 years around here I only remember once incident of a black bear attacking campers many years ago. Then again, I just did a search and see there were two attacks this year, but it was said this is very rare.
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07/15/13, 01:24 PM
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WI doesn't have grizzly bears as far as I know. Black bears are very timid. Having a dog with you will be just fine. Bears will not approach a barking dog. No worries. Black bears are not very big either. 200 lbs or so. Can be bigger but you usually won't see 'em. I promise.
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07/15/13, 01:43 PM
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WI doesn't have grizzly bears as far as I know. Black bears are very timid. Having a dog with you will be just fine. Bears will not approach a barking dog. No worries. Black bears are not very big either. 200 lbs or so. Can be bigger but you usually won't see 'em. I promise.
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Well I would not say that too quickly. This attack was they believe perpetuated by a dog getting interested in this bear. So the bear did not run away when approached by the dog.
Western Wisconsin man loses eye in bear attack
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Bob Brown says he visited his brother Tuesday where doctors said he had no brain damage, but along with losing an eye, a lengthy recovery is ahead.
"He's gonna be a walking wounded man for a long time." "We just want to see him up walking and talking."
Bob and Jerry Brown's brother Randy Brown shot at the bear and it ran away after the attack. The D.N.R. said Jerry's dog interacted with the bear first.
Bob said Jerry may have been too close to a mother with its young.
"This happens. If you encounter a sow with cubs, you're going to have trouble if you get in the way," Bob Brown said.
D.N.R. wildlife supervisor Kris Belling says attacks like these are rare, even though another happened in Marinette County last month.
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http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/W...212241731.html
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07/15/13, 04:01 PM
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You are not allowed to carry a shotgun in a WI State Park! Wardens will treat you like an unlicensed hunter if you are caught with a shotgun in your campsite.
To scare off bear: Hold your arms up high and wave them around, so you look bigger. Clang pots and pans together.
Keep all food in park provided food safes or put food in vehicle. If there is no food in your tent, bears will not come crashing in. Bears have a keen sense of smell, so that means no food of any size left in the campsite. Black bears will eat bird seed, so you know they will smell and eat the smallest of the small. Their keen sense of smell can even help them locate buried sweetrolls!
The only cause to worry is if Mamma Black Bear thinks you are a threat to her cubs...then she will go after you.
The poster talking about 200 pound black bears in WI is way off base. Our state record is 736 pounds!
http://www.shareyourhunt.com/group/showusyourbear
Leave the shotgun behind. Then you don't have to worry about a perp stealing it and commiting a crime with it!
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07/15/13, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LisaInN.Idaho
An 8 oz can of bear spray is what is recommended by most grizzly experts to stop a charging griz. It could stop a human predator too and you don't have to aim particularly true. It spreads out in a cloud. Just stay upwind of it.
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I don't trust bear spray or shark repellant. I find my daughter's cooking will disable the most dangerous of adversaries
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07/15/13, 04:32 PM
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I'm staying on private property. Too many people and not enough beds (IMO) so I decided to bring a tent for myself. I don't want to "share" a bed with anyone but my dog Rocky
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07/15/13, 04:59 PM
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I don't trust bear spray or shark repellant. I find my daughter's cooking will disable the most dangerous of adversaries 
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Even brownies?
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07/15/13, 05:53 PM
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I'm staying on private property. Too many people and not enough beds (IMO) so I decided to bring a tent for myself. I don't want to "share" a bed with anyone but my dog Rocky 
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Then you can bring your gun. But be careful. I very much doubt you will have bear problems. Problem bears are usually found where there are a lot of campers that leave scraps of food for them. Just don't have any food items in or near your tent.
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07/16/13, 09:01 AM
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I believe I read a statistic once that showed campers with guns for black bear protection are more likely to harm another camper than an attacking black bear.
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07/16/13, 09:13 AM
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I believe I read a statistic once that showed campers with guns for black bear protection are more likely to harm another camper than an attacking black bear.
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It's not all about the bears....It's about traveling alone unarmed or not and the legalities of crossing state lines. But some of the pictures of the 700lb bears didn't help my fear of bears!
Would you take a gun CF?
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07/16/13, 09:20 AM
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I take a gun everywhere I go. I have two concealed carry permits (Minnesota and Utah) which allow me to carry in about 40 states. In those states, the gun can be loaded and at my side whether I'm in the car, on the street, or in my tent (castle).
Having an unloaded shotgun, that is cased in your car's truck, isn't going to offer you much protection as you travel alone.
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07/16/13, 09:58 AM
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do your research, some states do not allow you to have a gun..like Illinois.
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