Missouri or Texas and Why?

What government? I build what I want, the way I want. I'm sure this county has an inspector, but I doubt anyone within 10 miles knows who he is. No easy living around here, everybody I know works hard. Last year I bought 6 cords of wood from a 76 year old neighbor, split by hand. The Ozark hills aren't for Daisies.

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That's my point. Hard places attract hard, resilient people.

I'm not saying the Ozarks are an easy living place. But there are parts of Texas that are, and I know there are parts of Missouri that are.

My argument is that you want to find those types of places to live, particularly in those small counties where you CAN do what you want, the way you want.

If I have to pick between TX and MO, I'd head for the MO Ozark mountain areas. I prefer a more "green" (color of terrain, not politics) environment and I think MO has a little more to offer that way.

I'd actually prefer not to be all that close to major monoculture type agriculture or miles and miles of cattle.

That said, I really like Tennessee...

Why in the world do we have to choose only between Texas and Missouri?

Probably my favorite state in the union is Kentucky. The mountains there .. ahh ... paradise. And the people are most excellent as well.

Have spent some time in south central KY. There's some nice country in KY. Not crazy about KY's taxs but it's some beautiful country.

Sadly, Oregon is all californicated. Taxes, liberalism and high land prices, Oh my! The climate is awfully nice though.

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Good tips all. I am a native Oregonian and favor the "greens" too--- I have been thinking Missouri ozarks for a couple years, but recently decided to expand my research to check out eastern texas. Recently I've been wondering if living in AZ for 3 years has made me too "soft" for real winter, so I've been looking a little further south just to check it out.

Everything around me is dust, rocks and cactus apart from the hay farms so just about ANY green is an improvement.
We really like the rural culture. DH is in emergency medicine and shouldn't have a hard time finding employment with a hospital, urgent care or ambulance crew. (Job first though, then property hunt)
We've been in a holding pattern for years while he was in school and with the end in sight the relocation conversation is renewed.

I was so sure and ready to go before... though now, I must admit-- I like having the grandparents 2 houses down and my local farmy friendships. I've gone almost my whole adult life as a loner with only my husband for a friend. I like having 3 girlfriends to call on who "get it." For the first time I'm a little bummed out at the thought of starting over so far away... but we really can't stand the dessert. I feel foreign to the environment and like the climate holds me back instead of freeing me from seasonal limits like it does most people.
I am a very outdoorsy person, but here I am more of a shut in. The sky and horizon here don't give me any joy like it should. When I'm not with the animals, I feel like I have no reason to be outdoors at all.

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Taxes come with services offered.
Liberalism ...... thank a liberal for the liberties you enjoy.
High land prices? - $1200 - $3000 per agricultural acre.

Taxes come with services offered.
Liberalism ...... thank a liberal for the liberties you enjoy.
High land prices? - $1200 - $3000 per agricultural acre.

Why buy land in a state where the landowners carry the greatest burden of all the tax revenue when you don't absolutely have to?

Rural is rural. Oregon doesn't offer much "services" for those taxes when you live out of the city and you're not unemployed-- they are too over extended as a result of the last 30 years of a tanking economy to handle things everyone can appreciate regardless of mailing address.

It was also no fun having to be evangelized every time I revealed myself not to be a registered democrat.
New liberalism is not the same as classical liberalism. I'm really more of a libertarian, personally.

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My tax burden for 2.51 acres is $9.95 per yr and for water I pay $4 per acre per yr. on one of the homesteads.

Here's the description of the place next door to mine:
Beautiful four bedroom, two bath house located just a short drive from town. The 2000 sq. ft. home has an enclosed porch w/heater, a screened in porch, kitchen and family room. The real estate has 20 mostly open acres, in good grass and two ponds. There is also a garage, 40’ x 80’ open shed, chicken house and a good well/well house. The pastures are fenced, hayable and there is a small amount of woodland acreage. All financial arrangements need to be made prior to the sale, 10% down day of the sale, balance due upon closing. Closing will be in thirty days or sooner. To view the real estate call 417-938-4394 or my cell phone @ 417-331-5231. Real Estate will be offered @ noon w/Pete and Louann making decision to accept or reject final offered bid.

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i don't think you want to come to West Plains, MO, because it is listed as No. 9:
http://livability.com/top-10/top-10-...west-plains/mo

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Yup. One of the top ten places to live! That's actually one county over, but we go to West Plains for major shopping, etc.

Life is good here.

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LOL - lists like this crack me up. I wouldn't consider Los Alamos or any of those others a "small town". The person who wrote that list is likely from an extremely large city with little experience or knowledge of truly small towns. Talk to me when you have a list of nice small towns where there are only about 14 kids in the graduating class of the K-12 school.

What is the corridor of "worst summer weather" of the year in the area? I'd really like to make plans and visit it at "the worst" to compare to my current "worst" and plan accordingly.

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For the WP area?

You want to see it at "high summer" August-ish and "middle winter" January-ish.

Umm but then go smack dab in the middle of fall and die a thousand happy deaths.

Warning... do not view these pics unless you are ready to die:
http://www.ozarkmtns.com/foliage/photos.asp




Here is the community calendar: http://www.dtantiques.com/cal



The hospital there was AWESOME, the people SUPER friendly... if I am remembering what your hubby is training for? If I got the wrong person just ignore that. LOL

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I do have to say I am partial to Terlingua Texas too... but that is not a heavily wooded/watered area. LOL

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Oh and if you hit WP with kids you HAVE to check out Butler Children's Park. Not many good pics of it online... but the park has like 10-ish playgrounds all in a ring at the same park. It was REALLY cool!



Yes I used -ish alot. LOL


I was VERY close to moving out there before life threw me a curve ball and landed me in a different direction.

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Missouri has a state income tax, Texas does not. I lived in the MO Ozarks for 15 years before moving to Texas. For me, Texas is much much better but then it depends on what you are looking for. I like the winters here, the near year round grazing, the low cost of living, great soil, nice people, and the beach. What I don't miss from MO is ticks, rocks, poor soil, fescue, ice, winters, cold wind, gray skies, meth heads that take anything not tied down, storms often, "your not from here" attitude, very humid summers, the long drives to get anywhere. You really need to visit and meet some folks before you make up your mind. It may be perfect for you though. Lots of people love it.

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