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Old 05/13/13, 09:28 PM
 
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You are correct. You should also know that after breeders of fight dogs got ahold of it, "pit bull" type dogs were called a nuisance, bred and kept to show aggression.

Yes, yes, I know, you know of someone that has a Pit Bull and it is the kindest dog in the world....bla...bla...bla. Yup, true. I can show you Pit Bulls that lunge at shadows on the wall until they are bloody.
I don't know of anyone that is breeding Pit Bulls to care for children. However I know many that are breeding and training for aggression. I've seen stray Pit Bulls group up and hunt humans like wolves do to deer.

In Michigan, 30,000 pets are euthanized each year. I don't know why anyone would use their family to experiment with a Pit Bull they know nothing about. If you have room in your home and heart, go to the local animal shelter and adopt a dog. But, please find one that doesn't have those bowed front legs, bowling ball head and tiny ears.
Horse puckey! The "breed" was created solely for fighting other dogs & it was mostly unknown to society as whole after WWII until the HSUS campaign to ban dog fighting made it known. At that point idiots that shouldn't own a goldfish bought into the breed, bred ridiculous numbers of them w/o any understanding of what they were doing & crossed in mastiffs bred for man work. This increased size & man aggression while reducing stability in temperament. Then the media hyped up the few attacks to boost ratings. This resulted in a wave of ignorant hysteria & increased the popularity of the unstable crossbreds with the worst possible owners.
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Old 05/13/13, 09:46 PM
 
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Could be Pitt . . . but it's not full blood, if there's any Pitt in there.

I have seen yellow lab/boxer mixes that look like that, too.
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OK, Shannon, your Bella is sweet. But, we agree that some Pit Bulls are dangerous, right? But "they don't have to be." is where I get on my soap box. It is in the nature of some Pit Bulls to react violently. I just don't think it is wise to bring one into your home, lives and heart, when you don't know when that reaction may be triggered. Treating a Pit Bull with kindness is no guarantee that he won't attack. It is in their nature. Some openly and some not so much and some not at all. You can tell a lot by the parent's behavior and how they were socialized as pups (be sure to read the "and"). A kind loving home does not change how a fighting breed's brain is hard wired. Maybe your dog is different. Perhaps nothing will ever set him off. But there are still plenty of mild mannered dogs being euthanized every day for lack of a home. Farm dogs, hunting dogs, herding dogs. Why close your farm, family, heart to one of those, so you can take a chance on a Pit Bull?
If every good dog had a home and this Pit Bull walked up, I might give him a chance. but as long as there are so many better choices, why risk it?
1. The dog in the bottom picture is exactly what I was talking about in reply to your first post. It is called an American bully & was created by mixing Neapolitan mastiff with pit bull terriers.
2. As the CDC has already stated, more than 90% of ALL dogs involved in fatal attacks have a prior bite incident & over half have multiple bite incidents. It's not a surprise, it's the owners not being willing to recognize the problem & deal with it appropriately. This is equally true whether the dog is a "pit bull" or a lab. Also as covered in another thread, attacks represent .0008% of the more than FIVE MILLION DOGS that would be considered "pit bulls" by the CDC. If even 1% of "pit bulls" attacked that would be over 50,000 attacks. That means that your irrational fear is based on hype not logic or rational thought.
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Old 05/13/13, 10:15 PM
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I've only scanned through the replies so just want to tell you my experiences. We have two pit bull mixes...one dumped in our driveway (Angus) and one that ran out in front of hubby one night on a back road (Maggie).

Both of these dogs are good as they can be. When we got Angus our neighbor said, "That dog's going to be trouble". Well, it's been six or so years now and we haven't had a hint of trouble out of Angus. He is friendly to people, calm and does everything in his power to avoid a fight with any of the other dogs. Everyone who meets him loves Angus.

Maggie is our goofball. She's happy, clumsy, energetic and friendly as can be. The only time (in the five or six years we've had her) Maggie has ever looked like she would attack someone was when I was home alone and caught two men trespassing on our property (fishing in one of our ponds). Maggie was ready to attack, but was waiting for me to give the signal. I never did and she went back to the house with me without an issue. Everyone loves Maggie too...she loves to cuddle and is as friendly as can be.

We have no idea what Angus' mix is, but suspect Maggie is a pit bull - chesapeake bay mix. She has a very gentle mouth and has brought many animals (mostly possums) to the house without harming a hair on them.

My Daddy used to have a rottie-pit bull mix named Bubba. Bubba was a HUGE dog with a big block head and people were afraid of him the second they set eyes on him. Bubba was another one that didn't have a mean bone in his body, unless you were an armadillo. He hated armadillos and killed every one he came across. But he liked people. All the neighbors loved him and he liked to make the rounds in the mornings...breakfast at my parents' house, my sister's house, two of the neighbors' houses, my house and back home to sleep off all that food! My kids grew up with Bubba, as did the neighbors' kids and my sister's kids. He was a good dog through and through.

I say all this to let you know that your dog will most likely be a very good dog. It's a shame someone dumped it, but maybe this dog was meant to be yours.

BTW...we think our latest dumpee has some pit in her. We named her Bailey and she is just a pup...a very large pup that is friendly, goofy and playful. She pays no attention to the cats, goats or horses, but she sure would like to play with my chickens!

What did you name your new buddy?
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Old 05/14/13, 12:29 AM
 
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This is another one of those topics that falls into the 'you're going to believe what you want' category, but my wife was a veterinary technician at a hospital in NJ that specialized in 'problem' animals. I can tell you hands down that the most aggressive dogs that they boarded were almost exclusively 'family friendly' dogs such as retrievers and labs; I can't recall a single pit that I was even wary of.
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He looks like a handsome, friendly, and intelligent mutt. Thanks for giving him a good home.
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For those of you who may have missed my earlier reply...thank you all for your thoughts on "Cowboy." I have been all over town with him and still nobody is claiming him... It breaks my heart because he is such a wonderful boy!! He is so eager to please and stays on my heel everywhere I go. He especially enjoys car rides and rabbit and chicken chores. I have several other dogs, but I wouldn't dream of letting them run loose for fear they might be killed on the road. I hope that never happens here...but I don't think this guy would be happy in containment and he's not bothering anything nor straying. Definitely getting him a vet visit this week to check for chip and get him neutered...I think that might help him from straying off. It's not every day a dog like this falls in your lap. I do feel very blessed! And I think he's happy, too...even though he cries at the door at night. I suspect at night he was brought inside. He's getting better though as each night passes. Friends think he's still a pup.
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Old 05/14/13, 06:48 AM
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Good for you Treesaw! Lucky you and lucky Cowboy, may he bless your family for years.

For Pops2 and Haypoint- you've got a whole entire thread in general chat devoted to your feelings about pitbulls and other aggressive dogs. Why bring your annoying and repetitive troll posts here, as well? We're not having a general conversation about a breed, we're trying to identify a sweet, friendly lost & found pup. THIS DOG is not the killer "pitbull" you want us to euthanize on sight, and this thread doesn't need ot be a repeat of another. Shoo.
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For those of you who may have missed my earlier reply...thank you all for your thoughts on "Cowboy." I have been all over town with him and still nobody is claiming him... It breaks my heart because he is such a wonderful boy!! He is so eager to please and stays on my heel everywhere I go. He especially enjoys car rides and rabbit and chicken chores. I have several other dogs, but I wouldn't dream of letting them run loose for fear they might be killed on the road. I hope that never happens here...but I don't think this guy would be happy in containment and he's not bothering anything nor straying. Definitely getting him a vet visit this week to check for chip and get him neutered...I think that might help him from straying off. It's not every day a dog like this falls in your lap. I do feel very blessed! And I think he's happy, too...even though he cries at the door at night. I suspect at night he was brought inside. He's getting better though as each night passes. Friends think he's still a pup.
..............you have done your 'Due diligence' and that is all anyone can ask of you ! The more bonding that occurs between you and Cowboy the more responsive he will become to your commands . I'd wait another couple of weeks before a vet visit so you'll be ready to claim him as your own . He is obviously worth your time , love and attention you will invest in him the longer he stays put . He knows he has found his home so he is just waiting on you to reciprocate . , fordy
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Old 05/14/13, 09:03 AM
 
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My son has a pit mix, she is a loving dog and gentle. I have no fear when I'm at my sons house. My grandson loves her.
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Old 05/14/13, 09:12 AM
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I see Corgi and Boxer in this one.

Had a Corgi/Husky mix one, very bright dog, stubborn at times but loved to please.
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We had a Staffordshire/boxer mix. People were afraid of him but he didn't have an ounce of mean in him. Ours had a much larger boxier head and was a larger dog. I know he is probably a puppy but he doesn't really look like he is going to be real large so not sure about the Staffordshire.
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As I believe I told Haypoint a long time ago, don't talk about other pit bull type breeds unless you've had actual experience raising and training a pit bull from good bloodlines however his fear of pit bull type dogs will probably prevent him from giving it a good old try. I'm really tired of people talking bad about a breed they've not raised or been around and believe what the media feeds them on a daily basis. Rant over.
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Old 05/14/13, 11:23 AM
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This is the Staffordshire/boxer mix.

I always said he would scare someone away as long as they turned their back before they saw the big lug come HOPPING down the drive.
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Old 05/14/13, 11:32 AM
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I think Staffy too, just from the front legs and broadness of chest. Maybe a mix, because Staffies are usually not as long, and their heads are shaped differently.

You should name him Jock (of the Bushveld) Jock was a Staffy/Bull Terrier mix.
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Old 05/14/13, 11:34 AM
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Treesaw..I work at a vet clinic and see many different breeds and mixed breeds. I see a lot of pit bull mixes. Personally, I would not judge the dog because it might have some pit in him. If he is nice and loving I would go ahead and get him neutered and welcome him into the family. Follow your gut...he is hanging out with you so much I think you are the best person to determine if he is aggressive or not. And aggressiveness can happen with any breed. He is not purbred anything so there is a lot of wiggle room. He looks like an awesome dog that has wormed his way into your heart...go with it!! You will know if it's not going to work out but he sounds like an awesome dog!
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Old 05/14/13, 11:44 AM
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grandma12703, that is my kind of dog! gorgeous.

I had a boxer pix cross for many years, he was a really good dog. yup, you make me holler and you may have an issue, but as a young single woman living in the back of a timber on a dead end road, well, that was not a bad thing. he'd lay down in front of children, on his belly so he wasn't scary to them or harm them. very submissive to most ppl. those who he didn't like, I just stayed away too, as i believe animals often know more than we do. i trusted him completely.
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Looks much like my old boy, who was half pitt. The best male dog God ever made, FYI. They have very similar markings as well, and I've seen white toes on many a pittie.

He's really cute, and yeah, looks like just a baby. Somebody seems to have been taking good care of him, too. He looks appropriately fat, shiny, and sounds polite and happy.

When they're good, I think they're the best dogs you could ever want. I would neuter him young so he doesn't go wandering, or start picking at your other dogs, but that's it.

He is an irresistible pup.

I'll throw out there, when I used to volunteer at our shelter, a big male pitt type was usually a complete sweetheart. If he wasn't, he was very upfront about it, which made everything so much easier. Seriously, if they're jerks to people, they don't hide it.
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Can't help with the mix question but this may help determine where he came from. Lift his tail and take a look. If you see an O, he is from Ohio.
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That face looks SO much like my Amstaff pup, Roxy!
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