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Old 05/01/13, 04:15 PM
 
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Aother thing to remember ------

Some people post supportive comments
and at the exact same time they may be "stabbing you" in the back, and/or poking fun of you with their p.m.s.

I have experienced it myself.

On HT the person appeared to be a supportive "friend".
But then an hour or so later, another HT member forwarded to me the messages she had gotten from that same member ........ where her comments about me were very nasty and unfriendly.

This very sincere sounding person, apparently has 2 faces.......

Be very careful who you trust!
Oh gosh YES! Be careful if you care what people think of you and your issues.

My attitude is that I will never give two shakes of a fat rat's tail what people on the Internet think of me. Why should I care about what complete stranger think.

Granted, there are some people I know through the Internet that I worry and fret over. Health issues and heart breaks are on my mind, but if they showed me that they weren't trustworthy...poof, they're gone!
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Some people are nasty just for the sake of being nasty. It is a character issue that you have to feel sorry for them about. Either they are just nasty at heart, or possibly immature. But their attitude isn't really relevant to your life, so ignore it, and just be polite yourself.
Everyone should be able to state their opinion in a polite manner. And it is ok to agree to disagree. And everyone should be polite just because it is the right thing to do.
When people come on and post, sometimes they get mad if they don't get the answers they want. And that might simply be because they take a disagreeing opinion as an attack when it is not meant that way? But all you can do is be nice and post what is in your heart, then pray for the people.
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what did you gain by knowing there is another evil person in the world?
I learned to be more cautious.
I learned to be less naive and trusting.

This knowledge has caused me to avoid communications with that particular poster.

I think these lessons were valuable to my overall being.........
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It really depends on the forum. I've noticed many people who post on HQ and CF never show up on GC and Politics. There are different tones in each, and you have to expect them. I sincerely enjoy giving helpful advice in an area I might have some expertise, but I also enjoy the give and take of opposing ideas. Luckily, you can find it all here.
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Old 05/01/13, 05:55 PM
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Some people are nasty just for the sake of being nasty. It is a character issue that you have to feel sorry for them about. Either they are just nasty at heart, or possibly immature. But their attitude isn't really relevant to your life, so ignore it, and just be polite yourself.
The rest of mekasmom post is worth reading too, but , HT does have an Ignore function that blocks people you dislike reading. More people should use it. Sorry, no you can't block a moderator you'll just have to do your best to not read our replies!! Keep in mind we can't use the ignore function on any of you at all!!
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Old 05/01/13, 06:22 PM
 
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Some people are nasty just for the sake of being nasty. It is a character issue that you have to feel sorry for them about. Either they are just nasty at heart, or possibly immature. But their attitude isn't really relevant to your life, so ignore it, and just be polite yourself.
Everyone should be able to state their opinion in a polite manner. And it is ok to agree to disagree. And everyone should be polite just because it is the right thing to do.
When people come on and post, sometimes they get mad if they don't get the answers they want. And that might simply be because they take a disagreeing opinion as an attack when it is not meant that way? But all you can do is be nice and post what is in your heart, then pray for the people.
I have to admit that I do get a chuckle out of people who get their knickers in a bind when they get advice they don't wanna hear! Bless their hearts!
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Old 05/01/13, 08:12 PM
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my second or third post here someone misunderstood my post as a hijack to their thread,it kinda made me upset so now I am a liitle leary to offer too much suggestion on anything but I still do but I don't press.there are only a few things in life I take seriously and the internet isn't one of them.I read lots of post but comment on only a handful of them,the politics area is one place where I try not to post too much stuff,I will voice my opinion on things but it's not worth the argument in most cases.
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Old 05/01/13, 08:52 PM
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My grandma always told me that if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything at all. I think that rule ought to apply throughout life, and even on the internet. You don't have to agree, but you ought to state it in a helpful, empathetic way if you're going to say it at all.
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I don't know what the answer is but I am curious how others feel. I feel like sometimes people come on here and vent and ask advice. We have some folks that send out positive and helpful suggestions. Sometimes they take it and sometimes they don't. We also have some folks that just disagree to disagree. I am not big on "politically correctness" but sometimes I think it could be done in a much different tone. I know there are some TUFF cookies out here in HT world but we have to remember that some are a little more fragile. Maybe they are just looking for a little support or maybe even some corrective suggestion, but I know it can be done in a way to do more good.
I participate on another site that is highly volital due to the nature of the subject. I have come to the conclusion that people well be .... well people. It akes all kinds fr the world to turn I am told.

Basicly if one does not have a tuff skin they need to be a total hermit.
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Old 05/01/13, 09:31 PM
 
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I have not been here long, and I have seen a great many very good people trying to help each other.
OK, so once in a while someone gets a bit over enthusiastic. Don't we all do it from time to time. If there is a "NO you are wrong." from time to time, who cares. The only time two people can agree all the time is when they are both dead.
I would much rather have your different opinions than no input at all!! I still have way to much to learn!!!!!
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Old 05/01/13, 09:32 PM
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I have toughened up a great deal since being here. I would pussy foot around trying to politely phrase everything so I wouldn't offend anyone. Then I would get hurt or angry when someone didn't do the same with me.
I'm so over it. It no longer bothers me personally when someone attacks and I no longer feel guilty over drawn blood. Much healthier.
Frankly I feel that there is a minority of posters who don't want information, advice or anything like it- they want sympathy all the time. Constant reassurance. Sooner or later, especially when thinking of really awful things some have to bear, it gets old to hear about about some of the soap opera non-problems. Mostly I try to avoid going there- sometimes I'm weak.
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Old 05/01/13, 10:49 PM
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So should things be moderated more to make the place nicer, pour on the sugar? Or left more alone, pass the salt and pepper? Elaborate if you don't mind.
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Old 05/02/13, 06:11 AM
 
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So should things be moderated more to make the place nicer, pour on the sugar? Or left more alone, pass the salt and pepper? Elaborate if you don't mind.
To be honest, from my point of view, things have changed since Chuck turned over the reins. The "Be Nice" rule isn't as stiffly re-enforced and there is more snarks.

BUT, life is full of changes so, so be it!
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Old 05/02/13, 06:37 AM
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Interesting Ardie. What I think also. I also think we need to enforce the be nice rule as much as we use to over the whole site. It is what made the site and is the rules that everyone signs up to follow.
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I think the "be nice" rule should be fairly and equally applied to everyone on this site.
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Old 05/02/13, 06:57 AM
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I don't know what the answer is but I am curious how others feel. I feel like sometimes people come on here and vent and ask advice.
And they do.
Some do so because they do not have a network of aquaintences' / friends in real life.
Some do because they want to hear input from ALL KINDS of folks, not just their 'friends' or 'like minded' aquaintences.
Some folks will spell out their situation / complaint because they want to know if THEY are the idiot / or / if they handled a situation correctly.
Some folks "vent" because they want to hear from others they are "justified".
There are zillions of reasons why.
I think at the end of the day, the poster, just wants to feel like they are heard...that someone, is listening.

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We have some folks that send out positive and helpful suggestions. Sometimes they take it and sometimes they don't.We also have some folks that just disagree to disagree. I am not big on "politically correctness" but sometimes I think it could be done in a much different tone.
Some folks have walked a mile in the shoes of the poster, made ALL the mistakes, and when they see this in a thread, they will give their advice in a very frank manner.
No sugar coating. Just the facts.
I personally prefer that approach.

There is a BIG BIG difference between someone who is 'blunt and to the point' and someone who is 'mean spirited'.
I am constantly amazing by the number of people who simply cannot tell the difference!!
Blunt tells you like it is.
Mean spirited lays in wait to 'zing' you. Maybe in a completely different thread.
They bring up the OP's problem / question / situation and use it like a weapon to hurt them.
Blunt just says it like it is.

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I know there are some TUFF cookies out here in HT world but we have to remember that some are a little more fragile
Tough Cookies know how and when to temper a message.
Mean-Spirited doesn't care.
But the OP cannot have thin skin.
You have to have broad shoulders, and thick skin to 'play' on the internet.

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Maybe they are just looking for a little support or maybe even some corrective suggestion, but I know it can be done in a way to do more good.
So true.
Some folks only want to hear from people who agree with them, then get all huffy and say "don't judge me" wa wa wa when someone gives them an opinion (even worse, if it's TRUE) that they don't agree with.

You will find, exactly what you are looking for on the internet.
You will also find everything else!
Proceed with caution!
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Old 05/02/13, 07:05 AM
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Some folks only want to hear from people who agree with them, then get all huffy and say "don't judge me" wa wa wa when someone gives them an opinion (even worse, if it's TRUE) that they don't agree with.
So should a moderator step in and delete these, keep everything happy?
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Old 05/02/13, 07:08 AM
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So should things be moderated more to make the place nicer, pour on the sugar? Or left more alone, pass the salt and pepper? Elaborate if you don't mind.
Be nice is "relative" and varies from board to board, the definition.
I kinda like the variety.
Being here as long as I have, I have a good feel for how each board is moderated and what 'nice' means to those moderators.

You cannot moderate, nice.
What I think is not nice, may be perfectly acceptable to you, but what you think is not nice, may be just a misunderstand between me and someone else, that gets straightened out via PM, but we still get an infraction.

I like things the way they are.
PLUS: There is an ignore feature!!
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Old 05/02/13, 07:09 AM
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So should a moderator step in and delete these, keep everything happy?
nope.
folks have a choice:
put on some thicker skin, or don't ask questions in the open forum, only ask certain members via PM.

some threads are not happy threads.
some advice is not fuzzy feel good advice, but it could save someone's life.

I think things are just fine the way they are!!
The moderators here (99%) are just fine. You just have to spend some time getting to know each of their boundaries.
Kinda like real life :-)
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