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Old 04/15/13, 01:52 AM
 
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There's a lot of argument for the outlawing of marijuana, but I don't think the effects of smoking it were ever a reason. You do, however, get to choose your own adventure.

Marijuana is illegal because _____.
A. Racism (It makes Mexican men rape white women!)
B. Racism (It makes white women attracted to black men!)
C. Capitalism (Hemp will ruin the cotton industry!)
D. Capitalism (Marijuana will ruin the recently 'unprohibited' alcohol industry!)
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Old 04/15/13, 10:28 AM
 
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If car manufacturers produced cars that killed one in ten of the people who drove them, they would be in jail. Same should be true with people who make or sell any illegal drug.
I do think that stiff laws for meth makers are appropriate.
I'm not sure I would agree with "any illegal drug" because then you run into stupid laws about raw fermented milk or tea that could be twisted to hurt homesteaders. There was a case in the past in TX where they use the GFSZ to try to prosecute homeschoolers with class x felonies. People take laws and twist them to hurt innocent people at times.
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Old 04/16/13, 06:48 AM
 
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I do think that stiff laws for meth makers are appropriate.
I'm not sure I would agree with "any illegal drug" because then you run into stupid laws about raw fermented milk or tea that could be twisted to hurt homesteaders. There was a case in the past in TX where they use the GFSZ to try to prosecute homeschoolers with class x felonies. People take laws and twist them to hurt innocent people at times.

A correction is in order- people don;t take laws and twist them, LAWYERS DO!
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Old 04/16/13, 07:40 AM
 
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When i was young and curious i tried many things...even the dreaded meth...but it wasn't for me...it was for folks who needed to get more done...in our society people are encouraged to work work work...then go home and work some more...the friends i knew back then thought this was a way to push themselves harder.
Yup.

Back in the '90s, in the mills, before the industry went bust (I grew up in rural Oregon as well), overtime was there for the asking, and folks would do meth to keep themselves going for overtime shifts to make more money ... which many of them just spent on meth so they could work more overtime so they could make more money. It was a nasty cycle, and it led nowhere but ugly ... but hopefully it disappeared along with the mill work (I haven't lived in Oregon in more than a decade, so I have no idea anymore).
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Old 04/17/13, 12:31 PM
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Can a person use it for about a week, then stop, go to work for as long as 3 weeks straight (and not use it at that time) then get off for a week, use during that time? In other words, their schedule is 20 days on/10 days off. And there is random, unannounced drug testing on the job.

The reason I'm asking is because approx 1.5 years ago, one of our co. deputies told me that "we highly suspect he is on meth but we can't prove it". Exact words.

Not trying to start an argument, just wonder what you think as it seems ya'll know a lot more about it than I do.
Yes. Urine testing, if memory serves, only picks meth up within 72 hours. Hair sample will get them every time.
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Old 04/17/13, 05:01 PM
 
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Not just the younger ones on meth. Article in local paper: 25 year old son released from jail after being charged with killing his father, 65 years old. Autopsy found that father did not have enough injuries to cause death in a fight, which son admited occurred after an arguement. Also heart attack caused death. ALSO, the 65 year old father was on meth. Article did not say what the son's condition was.

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