Tractor models that were lemons

Ever tractor back then had 6V systems, They wernt heavy enough to throw a starter in winter as the later 8s and 12Vs. They wernt any higher than JDs, Or MMs, or Oliver, and maybe MH.
Everybody who had bought a standard tread and never had a tippy experience says that the row crops are tippy. I wish I could show pictures of how steep the ground was where I was born raised in the Mo River Foothills. I took pics once, but they didnt do the steepness justice. Only heard of one tipping over.
All of them had clutch activated PTO, AND hydraulics, and the hydraulics only activated one direction, UP.

IF you had wanted to farm in the 40s/ You wouldnt have been able to. Other than with horses and mules.

Every body farmed 40" rows where I grew up. That means the rear wheels were 80" center to center. And you would have been hard pressed to find any Farmall with the double front wheels, they all ran a single front wheel.

As far as tippy, well that country is flat as a pancake, so you would have drive off into a bar ditch or just try to tip one.

I know of one that tipped over backwards when they were tied on to something and it stood up and flipped backwards. But never sideways.

Ms and Hs were an inch or 2 of 6' to the steering wheel.

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Plugged that into an inflation calculator.
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

What cost $2000 in 1950 would cost $18,818.99 in 2012.

Not downning your figures, BUTT I see these kind of figures many times, and they seem just to implauseable to be real. Dad bought his 48 H in around 54/55. We didnt have 2 dimes to put together. That tractor was only 6/7yrs old. Allowing for depreation, and I remember it looking like a new tractor, it woulda been, by those figures likely worth $10G. Theres NO way any banker would have loaned him that kinda money back then. He took bankruptcy in round 59, so you know that there would be no way anybody would sign him a note for that kind of money

I thought Longs were built in Spain on the old Ebro McKee lines and then in Mexico with even more Ford designs. Never said anything bad about Long tractors anyhow!

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The only 1940's rig I can think of with live PTO and hydraulics was the Cockshutt 30. Lovely tractor, I own a propane model.

I have to agree with the post stating the people who have never spent much time on a tricycle tractor think they are all "tippy". They aren't anymore than an wide front if you use your head. I have 3 tricycles and hilly land. Think ahead a bit and you'll be fine, same goes for the wide fronts.

I've got a H with wore out band brakes that you can stop.

I've got an IHC 300 with wore out disc brakes that you can kinda slow down.

Drove both of them 40 years ago when they weren't maybe so wore out, and they worked the same. The disc brakes were a downgrade, in my opinion.

Got a mix of wide front and narrow front tractors, the wide front is generally better, but the narrow front stores in smaller area, turns shorter, and is no more dangerous on hills than a wide front, assuming you,weight them right and space the rear tires. The wide front tractors pivot on the front end, so really are very close to same geometry as a narrow front. The old H tractor with loader is a narrow front, with the 6-700 lbs of weight on the rear of the long wheelbase it is very stable. Got a compact wide front NH tractor with loader, with the short wheelbase that is the scariest thing I ever operated, had to fill the rear tires with fluid after I about filled my drawers, and put weight on the 3pt for real use on top of that. Wheelbase means more than wide or narrow front on this.

Paul

Many of the farmers and ranchers out on the dry, cold plains, even today that use a loader everyday, will have an H or M with an old farmhand loader for a backup when everything else wont start. Don't need plugged in, just start right up but they need maintained the best possible....James

The H dad had, now mine, was a magneto setup. Man, that thing would start in anything. 20 below, raining, didn't matter. The magneto would fire it up on a 6 volt battery.

Alsa, the magneto wore out and dad replaced it with a typical points and condenser. It's not the same tractor, takes a good battery and doesn't handle rain or cold like it did.

Paul

I tipped one over, on only slightly uneven ground, while standing still! I was probably about 10. Yeah, that will leave a bad impression..... Yes, there were not a lot of live systems then, but there were 3 point hitches, but not on the H. We had a JD 50 at the same time we had the H (also narrow front) and I loved that tractor. It would start in an instant in any weather.

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Tractor makes are very regional I believe. In my home county, Farmalls ruled. There were a few Johnny Poppers and for me, it was a treat to go visit someone that had them.

One county over was mostly rice farmers. And mostly Case tractors were used. There was an IH and Case dealer there. To the West in my home county was a White dealer and you saw lots of White tractors in that area.

An Oliver on occasion would be seen, but very seldom.

And I think having grown up with Farmalls myself, or maybe you grew up with JDs or Olivers or whatever and you tend to be a bit prejudiced in in favor of what you did grow up with. I think this is very relevant to what you like or perhaps consider a lemon.

And a lot of tractor makes that can still be easily be found farther North are scarce as hens teeth here.

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My brother owned own, it was fine when it ran......it might crank toaday and then not for a week. You couldn't pull start it even. They were alot in the area, lot a one row tobacco plowing. The gas models were the trouble, everyone said the diesels didn't give the problems the gas did.

As to tractors being regional, it's true. Around here different communties even sport different brands. One community works Fords, one Allis,my folks used 2 cylinders, and never owned any models after 59. 2 uncles kept on with them and two went to Fords. It's a job to work 80 acres with a M JDand two mules!

I had problems with my 1010 CLB running right and starting. Got some good info at the JD Crawlers website and put in the right coil, wired properly with the right plug wires and plugs. Huge difference. I also found and cleaned the "secret" fuel filter in the elbow on the carb. Another huge difference.

Nice rig for what I've got in it.